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Vaporwave Is a Judeo-Masonic Chabad Lubavitch Conspiracy

vaporwave floral shoppe cover

Millions of people around the world have seen this image of the bust of Helios on a pink-and-black-checkered floor and a window with a view of a 1990s Manhattan sunset. It is the cover artwork for the 2011 Vektroid/Macintosh Plus vaporwave album Floral Shoppe – but what does it all mean, and what are the ramifications of the infinite recycling and imprinting of its symbolism on the minds of legions of internet-addicted basement dwellers?

The vaporwave genre is known to have been invented by a Brooklyn-based Russian Jew, Daniel Lopatin, operating under the alias Oneohtrix Point Never1. Brooklyn is also home to Chabad Lubavitch World Headquarters – a coincidence? It also draws much of its inspiration from disposable commercial culture and the creative expressions of (((profit margin fetishization))).

The title of the most popular track from Floral Shoppe, translated into English, is “Lisa Frank 420 / Modern Computing” – a reference both to stonerism and psychedelic 1990s Trapper Keeper artist Lisa Frank – a Jew. Starting to connect the pixels? Vaporwave, in short, is psychoactive Jewish mind control merchant music that does not even attempt to disguise what it is.

Lisa Frank

Look at this maniacal vaporwave Jew referenced in the title of “リサフランク420 / 現代のコンピュー”.

vaporwave mosaic

Note the way in which vaporwave artwork imitates the Masonic pairing of the checkered tiles with classical forms.

What of the specific iconographic symbolism of the Floral Shoppe A E S T H E T I C? Establishing the de rigueur checkerboard floor motif for many vaporwave illustrations that followed, the tiles on Floral Shoppe’s cover imitate the “mosaic pavement” of the Masonic lodge, representing the floor of the Temple of Solomon2. Freemasons trace their Hebraic craft to the builders of temples in ancient Israel, and they continue in their service to the Israelis today through their propagation of Chabad Lubavitch’s vaporwave brainwashing internet music.

 

The disembodied and faceless head of Helios, meanwhile, harkens back to the metaphysical artworks of Giorgio de Chirico, who was married to Isabella Far – a Jew – and critics of the 1930s, not without reason, attacked Chirico’s metaphysical paintings as “Jewish”, “Bolshevik”, and “degenerate”3.

Macintosh Plus’s Floral Shoppe was released in 2011 – the tenth anniversary of the 9/11 attacks – and the album cover’s image of the Twin Towers at sunset with the foregrounded mosaic pavement of Judeo-Masonic lore is a semiotic tip-off and smug acknowledgment of Chabad Lubavitch’s responsibility for the September 11th psyop. (See also: “The Connection Between Vaporwave and 9/11”)

vaporwave song of love

Giorgio de Chirico’s predictive 1911 painting The Song of Love – created exactly a hundred years before the release of Floral Shoppe. Another coincidence? Note the busted head of Helios and the explosion of the World Trade Center in the background.

All the proof you could ever want is contained in this video:

By the way, if you’re still reading and taking any of this stuff seriously … you might just be an April fool.

Rainer Chlodwig von K.

Rainer is the author of the blockbuster Alt-Right film book Protocols of the Elders of Zanuck: Psychological Warfare and Filth at the Movies.

Endnotes

  1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oneohtrix_Point_Never
  2. http://www.masonic-lodge-of-education.com/mosaic-pavement.html
  3. McCloskey, Barbara. Artists of World War II. Westport, CT: Greenwood Press, 2005, p. 100.
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88 comments on “Vaporwave Is a Judeo-Masonic Chabad Lubavitch Conspiracy

  1. icareviews
    April 1, 2018

    Reblogged this on icareviews.

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  2. Hipster Racist
    April 1, 2018

    So Varporwave is essentially 1980s Yamaha DX-7 New Age synthpop?

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    • icareviews
      April 1, 2018

      Vaporwave is a genre of synthpop that relies on sampling and trippy, disjointed, and spaced-out effects and takes inspiration from muzak, Japan, and throw-away 80s and 90s culture like outmoded software packaging and mass-produced beverages (for some reason Fiji water bottles are a ubiquitous go-to vaporwave visual element). The music isn’t inherently racist, and many vaporwave fans are leftist in orientation; but the fact that it’s an ironic and nostalgia-oriented genre has given it a large Alt-Right following – and the affinity for classical sculpture is arguably a dog-whistle, or can function that way. There are also subgenres like laborwave, which takes inspiration from communist kitsch. Sometimes the specific subgenre or political orientation is just a matter of the image the uploader has chosen to accompany the vaporwave track. Upload a picture of King Jong Il with your track and it’s “Juchewave”.

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      • Hipster Racist
        April 1, 2018

        Sounds like a bunch of fucking hipsters raided the vintage keyboard shop.

        “We need another Vietnam to thin out their rank a little.”

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  3. icareviews
    April 1, 2018

    Pilleater has a good essay about the politics of vaporwave:

    http://www.pilleater.com/2018/02/fashwave-sectarianism-vs-vaporwave.html

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  4. Hipster Racist
    April 1, 2018

    o/t – new Murdoch Murdoch

    Honestly, the thing between Dr. Murdoch and Lauren Southern never fails to crack me up.

    “Just let me take off my shirt and get this fixed right up!”

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  5. bob saffron
    April 1, 2018

    Sure, I believe.

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  6. bob saffron
    April 1, 2018

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  7. eyeslevel
    April 2, 2018

    Any real artist today would be on the right.

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    • icareviews
      April 2, 2018

      What about bullshit artists? They seem to span the political spectrum.

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  8. Boopedybop
    April 2, 2018

    Embracing your inner Kyra Manic I see 😉

    On a side note, I just found out that Paul Nehlen has apparently been doxxing people on his Gab.ai account.

    Crazy stuff.

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    • icareviews
      April 2, 2018

      I realize Gab is supposed to be a totally free speech forum inclusive of everything but death threats and child porn, but it seems like there ought to at least be a rule against doxxing.

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      • Hipster Racist
        April 2, 2018

        @icareviews

        I just read Nehlen’s post myself. He said, “if you don’t want to be doxed, don’t punch right.”

        I can only assume the guy is a serious alcoholic and spends most nights posting online in a whiskey-fueled blackout rage. Hey, I’ve been there myself but FFS, I’m not a high profile politician.

        Nehlen is now utterly shitting on all the people who supported him. Frankly, that makes him a PERFECT leader for the “Alt Right.”

        Ah well, RamZPaul called it all two years ago. Anyone could see it coming.

        Glad I’m not “Alt Right” – just a standard issue liberal racist!

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  9. Hipster Racist
    April 2, 2018

    Off topic:

    Every single “Alt Right” group is mired in comical infighting. Clowns like the Daily Stormer and The Right Stuff are now denouncing the (((Hollywood Nazi))) gimmicks they spent the last five years doing. Richard Spencer, who famously disinvited Matt Heimbach from NPI in 2015, is now mourning the loss of TWP and sticking up for them.

    Greg Johnson is constantly attacking Richard Spencer, blaming him for “Hailgate” while desperately trying to recruit Mike Enoch – the actual guy behind Hailgate.

    Paul Nehlen, once the most promising and high profile politician openly pro-White, has blown up his entire campaign and now spends all day shit posting nonsense on Gab.ai. He is married to a brown Mexican woman and has a gay Jewish spokesman and is now doxing people in “the movement” who piss him off.

    I remember how hopeful I was about “the Alt Right” in 2015, how worried I became when they all went on board the “Trump train” – I remember how AryanSkynet was abandoned because we were one of the few that warned about being co-opted, but did it based on facts as opposed to the looney tunes nonsense of the Renegade crowd.

    Easter, 2018, the “Alt Right” is dead. It’s leading lights have all utterly discredited themselves and accomplished nothing but getting credible pro-White activists banned from social media. All that is left are cranky old “WN1.0” and “fashy” internet trolls who still think “fat pepe” memes are funny or that “trolling the media” is some sort of “4-D Chess” game they are winning.

    Was I right when I predicted all this? Was I right when I warned that certain people who spoil it for everyone else? I think I was, although I was totally wrong about Nehlen – I would totally believe a conspiracy theory if someone wants to say his Jewish PR flak is slipping him LSD in his coffee or something (seriously, the guy is clearly having a mental breakdown.)

    White pill, though – cleaning out all the trash the SPLC has spent years propping up is a good thing – it frees up some oxygen for actual pro-White people.

    But I gotta say I’m really missing Bob Whitaker these days. RIP.

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    • icareviews
      April 2, 2018

      Spencer and Johnson should kiss and make up – literally, figuratively, whatever. Those two have always seemed like they belong on the same team and I’m not privy to everything that’s transpired between them, obviously – maybe the differences really are irreconcilable – but they seem so similar to each other in outlook and mission and sensibility as compared with some of the figures each seems to want to slum around with.

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      • Hipster Racist
        April 3, 2018

        Until 2016 Spencer and Johnson were on friendly terms, did interviews with each other, etc. I don’t know exactly what happened but apparently the bad blood existed before the Antifa punch and Hailgate.

        Simplest explanation – two primadonna narcissist ego maniacs competing for donations and attention. There won’t ever be any sort of kissing and making up though after the Friberg thing.

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    • Bob Whitaker is okay!
      April 3, 2018

      @Hipster Racist
      Alt-Right are just Republicans that like to say n*gger and k*ke.

      I always knew the Alt-Right was a shit show thanks to reading Bob: Never trust a wordist.

      “But I gotta say I’m really missing Bob Whitaker these days. RIP.”

      I hope I’m here to see the day he comes out of the freezer swinging both fists.

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  11. bob saffron
    April 3, 2018

    Highbrow culture is important, but so is the creation of real community. It’s good to hear from a woman who’s not a celebrity activist. Fresh eyes can be useful.
    https://therightstuff.biz/2018/03/28/rebel-yell-311-julia-helicopter-mom/

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    • icareviews
      April 3, 2018

      I’ve heard her as a guest on the Poz Button, I think.

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  12. yogiguy
    April 3, 2018

    Ha! Nehlen’s Pro Bono work has taken on a whole new meaning since those days I mentioned that his company Blue Sky Global doesn’t actually have any financial history. It’s been out there for a while and there was nothing to defend him then or now, he’s always been out of it. I doubt he is binging but relapse happens. As for his wife, that was a total give away but not as much as Andrew Anglin (White Nationalist, really?) and his fetish for VERY young Filipino girls.

    Word on twitter now is that Nehlen is part of the Blue-Oyster-Bar-Cult, gay boy on his motor bike looking, ‘cough, cough’ tough. We can all hope that someone will really step up to the plate to take them on (JWO). As for Patrick Little and his “Phase One tactics” right out of the Rockwell play book, another one down before he even starts. Let’s just be thankful he’s not out there hopping up & down in front of Twitter Headquarters in jackboots and a gorilla costume. Ahhh the good old days!

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    • AJ
      April 3, 2018

      Did anyone think it was suspicious he was pushing free speech on social media strongly, and then for no reason at all brought Jews into it and linked them so closely together?

      I can just see the argument now:

      “Only naziswhowantokillsixmillionjews could ever want free speech.”

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      • Hipster Racist
        April 3, 2018

        @AJ

        I owe an apology to Maureen, she called this right away.

        Maureen, if you’re reading this – you were right about Nehlen. I should have listened to you.

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  13. NoddingHead
    April 4, 2018

    Hey, I called Nehlen out as BS media fakery too.

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  14. NoddingHead
    April 4, 2018

    “Was I right when I predicted all this? ”

    Yes. That is why I like this site and will continue to follow, buy some books you put out, and generally support you. And that you don’t cave on 9/11. That is the main thing imo.

    Greg Johnson is brilliant with his vast philosophical knowledge and his posts about good historians and philosophers who we tend to agree with. But seriously, 9/11 denial? Huge red flag.

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    • Hipster Racist
      April 4, 2018

      @NoddingHead

      If Johnson just ignored 9/11 truth, that would be one thing. He has on the other hand spent a lot of time smearing truthers, exactly like Jewish anti-white leftists like Noam Chomsky. It is indeed puzzling why Johnson chooses to lie about, smear, and misrepresent people who expose the 9/11 propaganda.

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  15. NoddingHead
    April 4, 2018

    Johnson is against questioning any details about the “Holocaust” (because we have to “step over that”) and also apparently thinks questioning the 9/11 official story and obvious cover-up is only for kooky conspiracy theorists. Not hating on him but maybe he needs to look at scientific evidence. Maybe not easy fpr a social-science and philosophy person.

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    • Hipster Racist
      April 4, 2018

      @NoddingHead

      There is all the difference in the world between:

      a) “Questioning” the details of the Holocaust, as in serious historical revisionism. That is what David Irving does.

      b) Questioning the use of the Holocaust, without getting into historical details. Even if you believe the received Holocaust narrative 100%, that does not mean you think it should be the focus of American history, that it justifies anti-White policies, or that Jews have some sort of “special victim status” that, say, Polish or Ukrainian people do not.

      c) Claiming that if you “debunk” the Holocaust, that will somehow blunt Jewish power and anti-whiteness.

      Johnson has never argued against a or b, but has argued against c.

      9/11 truth is relevant in certain situations. It’s hugely relevant when discussing the post-9/11 “clash of civilizations,” it’s hugely relevant in discussing supposedly Islamic terrorism, it’s hugely relevant when discussing US imperialism and wars, and it’s very relevant when discussing media propaganda, the deep state, etc.

      It is NOT particularly relevant when discussing anti-whiteness. It’s not particularly relevant even when discussing Jewish anti-whitness.

      There are a lot of people who are both anti-white and 9/11 truthers. There are a lot of people who are both anti-white and anti-semitic – see, a huge percentage of Black people. So, clearly, we’re talking about orthogonal concepts here.

      I have a difficult time understanding why these obvious distinctions are ignored by people.

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  16. NoddingHead
    April 4, 2018

    I personally think that questioning (and debunking) both the “Holocaust” dogma and the 9/11 official dogma are huge keys in understanding and making sense of the nonsense which is overcoming this USA by way of media. And doing either one of these does take mental and/or spiritual courage and an independent spirit, I think.

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  17. NoddingHead
    April 4, 2018

    “….you might just be an April fool.”

    I ignored the silly lizard people post and only commented on the serious comments.

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  18. james
    April 4, 2018

    Dude I was relieved to read that last sentence.

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  19. NoddingHead
    April 5, 2018

    Hipster, off topic a little but I really liked your recent post on Occidental Observer where you called for “declaring independence” from the fake Right and conservatism. Spot on. What bugs me the most is that way too large a percentage of apparently race-realist people also insert their climate-change denial idiocy and other anti-environmental learned ideologies. I think that is largely an artifact of libertarianism and AynRandism. I think it serves to discredit race-realism. White people do not, historically or naturally, argue FOR environmental destruction in the service of financial intetests. White people naturally prefer clean environments and cpnservatipn of nature, it is a characteristic that, imo, makes us better than most. I live in a pretty “vibrant” area. Blacks and mestizos litter their own neighborhoods FAR more than white people and do not seen to give a shit about larger environmental issues. Environmental protection is certainly something most white people care about natutally, despite AynRandism.

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    • icareviews
      April 6, 2018

      Being a climate change skeptic doesn’t necessarily make a person “anti-environmental”. I favor conservation and clean air and water but also have my doubts about the motivations of the corporate interests promoting climate change orthodoxy. The main thing is making white interests the priority. Other differences of opinion can be aired and debated once our existential position in the world is secure.

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      • Hipster Racist
        April 6, 2018

        @icareview

        Have you read the “climate files?” Whatever your belief about “climate change” there’s a long and documented record of oil company scientists warning about it, in private, LONG before it ever became a political issue – going back to the 1970s. These were scientists hired by the oil companies themselves, not any sort of “left wing activists” or government bureaucrats.

        The effect of carbon on the atmosphere is not in question, at all, the only real debate is the scale.

        I just watched Tucker Carlson making “jokes” about how smoking doesn’t really cause cancer, or at least the science is still “in question.” (He’s a heavy tobacco user and friends with tobacco lobbyists, I think even worked for the tobacco lobby.)

        I remember back when I was a kid, ALL the conservatives were rank anti-environmentalist reactionaries saying that catalytic converters were just a “scam” by “big government” and that auto exhaust was totally safe to breathe. These were the same people that said lead in gasoline was no big deal, that lead-free gas was just some “tree hugging hippie bullshit” and they now whine about ethanol.

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      • icareviews
        April 7, 2018

        I’m going to have to plead both ignorance and attention deficit on the climate change debate. I’ve read about oil companies funding global warming research cited by the cause’s champions, but I’m also aware that such luminaries of humanitarian goodwill and progress like Enron were instrumental in turning it into a major political issue – so forgive my continued skepticism:

        https://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/why-enron-wants-global-warming

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      • Hipster Racist
        April 7, 2018

        There’s a difference between the science of greenhouse gasses and the move to “carbon credits.” The “Carbon Credits” thing is two fold: one, it’s mean to keep China, etc., under the economic power of the West, and two, it’s a form of artificial scarcity to base global currencies on (in the same way that computing power is a scarcity that Bitcoin is based on.)

        No, I don’t think we’re all going to die in 20 years because we’ll cook to death because of global warming. But denying that burning petrocarbons affects the atmosphere is reactionary anti-environmentalist conservatism – and it’s essentially oil company PR.

        Eventually China and Russia are just going to stop playing along with the Western banking/debt system, so “Carbon credits” are supposed to be the new basis for IMF SDRs. I doubt it will work.

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      • icareviews
        April 7, 2018

        Are you saying Alexander Cockburn was an oil company PR man? I’ve even seen Michel Chossudovsky, who is hardly a reactionary, poo-poo the mainstream obsession with global warming. I’ve never seen a convincing rebuttal to the Climategate revelations. If all of this is such settled science, why bother to fake it?

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    • bob saffron
      April 6, 2018

      Rand was more neocon than a libertarian. Strong protection for “intellectual property” (enforcement of which necessitates a cross-border approach); military defense of Israel; antipathy towards European ethnic identity and Christianity, amity towards Jews, support for unimpeded immigration. Need I go on?
      https://openborders.info/ayn-rand-immigration-obvious/

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    • Hipster Racist
      April 6, 2018

      @NoddingHead

      It’s because right wing people are reactionary. The progressives act, the conservatives react to the progressives. As for environmental issues, all of the great American conservationists were White Nationalist Judeo-skeptics and most of them were considered “progressive” and secular; they were all “classical (Western) liberals.” In America, “conservatism” has always been about Biblical/semitic fundamentalism, anti-science, and a bizarre mix of puritan sexuality/sexual prurient obsession.

      I was one of the first bloggers in the so called “alt left” – openly pro-white but never “right wing” or “conservative.” Others, like Robert Lindsay, Rabbit, and Beatnik Fascist are similar. But our particular brand just never caught on.

      The whole “hipster racist” gimmick was about how utterly *WHITE* “liberal” urban “hipster” culture really is – “hipster racism” was a real thing, a real anti-white slur they were using against all the Nice White Liberals, accusing them of “gentrification” and “micro-aggressions” and the like.

      Chesterson said “the job of progressives is to keep making mistakes, and the job of conservatives is to prevent those mistakes from being corrected.” If you want to know what a conservative believes, just find out what a progressive believed 40 years ago. These days, conservatives are telling us that “gay marriage” is a conservative value, one particularly comical illustration of the bankruptcy of conservativism.

      The precise reason the “Alt Right” has destroyed itself is precisely because it’s nothing but dumb reaction. Ironically, the real Hiter/NSDAP were an ultra-modernist, progressive force. Hitler was a vegetarian(!) a huge animal rights activist, an environmentalist, and the NSDAP were basically the main opposition to the conservative, traditional German establishment. They only made common cause because of the threat of Jewish Communist totalitarianism.

      I have to keep reminding myself to focus more on recruiting White liberals and non-conservatives and to just ignore these “movement” idiots, the “Alt Righters” and the “1488ers” and the “neo-Nazi” morons. I’ve never had any particular problem getting White women, white liberals, and other non-right wingers agreeing with me. In fact, just giving these people a space to be pro-White – without all the stupid “1488 movement” bullshit – has always workedp pretty well.

      But it’s literally just me and like four other people. We can only do so much.

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  20. NoddingHead
    April 6, 2018

    White people invented solar and wind and geothermal and hyrdo power too. Why do so many supposedly white advocates think it is somehow “anti-white” to support less-polluting energy innovations? Nuclear power, btw, was developed entirely through massive government subsidies. And it still relies on massive subsidies. Look up the history of the Atomic Energy Commission (AEC).

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    • icareviews
      April 6, 2018

      I don’t know anyone who thinks it’s “anti-white” to be in favor of alternative energy; it’s just that most people can’t be bothered to give a shit about any of that when they’re in danger of becoming a racial minority in their homeland. Keeping whites in charge of environmental protection is the best way to ensure a good stewardship of the earth – and in order for that to happen whites have to hold onto some kind of agency and achieve some kind of hegemony in their own lands.

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    • Penny
      April 6, 2018

      “Nuclear power, btw, was developed entirely through massive government subsidies. And it still relies on massive subsidies. ”

      I read something interesting about this. They said when they were building the first reactors they had the choice of using what they use now, or building thorium reactors.

      According to this article the thorium reactors burn much cleaner than what we use now, but the waste they produce can’t be used to make atomic bombs.

      Bingo!

      So that explains why dirty reactors that aren’t cost effective, get massive subsidies. It is so the government can make atomic bombs.

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  21. NoddingHead
    April 6, 2018

    “c) Claiming that if you “debunk” the Holocaust, that will somehow blunt Jewish power and anti-whiteness.”

    “Johnson has never argued against a or b, but has argued against c.”

    I think taking power away from the Holocaust victimology myth has huge power. But it ain’t gonna happen. Should happen, but will never happen. Same with 911 and JFK and Roosevelt getting us into the “good” war despite all campaign promises to the contrary. I dunno, giving up truth for expediency and the very real desire to not be called a “conspiracy theorist” seems like a dead end.

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    • Penny
      April 6, 2018

      It won’t happen while we do what doesn’t work. All the great intellectuals on our side ever had to do when asked about the Holocaust is to reply:

      “The Holocaust is used to justify White Genocide.”

      That’s it.

      Tens of millions of three year olds could be taught to do the above, but the childish intellectuals on our side are more interested in showing how clever they are, by gaining an encyclopedic knowledge of crap, so they can write endless essays that no one read and did not change a thing.

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  22. NoddingHead
    April 6, 2018

    “I don’t know anyone who thinks it’s “anti-white” to be in favor of alternative energy;”

    But there are shitloads of “conservatives” and “right wing” people who are programmed to hate modern energy innovations in favor of old incumbent energy technologies. It makes them look like they are actually ideologically in favor of polluting technologies and against newer, cleaner, non-incumbent energy technologies. You can read their rants every day on WN and alt-right sites, usually embedded within posts on other more white-relevant topics. Occidental Observer is an example. That site tends to equate “conservatism” to pro-whote too much.

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    • Penny
      April 6, 2018

      Conservatives have never been pro-white. Conservatives always make a fuss of stopping illegal immigration, then they hit us with massive legal non-white immigration. The con part is short for con-artist. There are also fascists in Brazil that believe in forced racial integration.

      Right wingers still hang around pro-white websites, sure. They are a throwback to a time when our countries were almost 100% white. They are just there to herd the suckers into voting Republican, one last time.

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    • Penny
      April 6, 2018

      ” It makes them look like they are actually ideologically in favor of polluting technologies and against newer, cleaner, non-incumbent energy technologies.”

      These technologies don’t work and are not competitive. You can’t drive trucks, run steel refineries, or power cities with them. Traditional power generators have to keep running, for when the sun doesn’t come out, or when the wind stops blowing. So they are a false economy that make the hipsters that can afford them feel good, and that’s about it.

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      • Hipster Racist
        April 6, 2018

        @Penny

        Solar, wind, hydro, and nuclear all work right now. Petrocarbons are clearly the most dense and portable type of energy we have, but it’s also a massively subsidized industry. If petrocarbons had to compete without subsidy (and that would include likely a third, if not more, of the military budget which is all about controlling oil supplies) you’d be paying $15 a gallon to fill up your car. (And let’s not even get into the relationship between the US Empire and the petro-dollar…)

        Brazil decided to use all that cheap sugar cane to run their cars off of alcohol – it works just fine. They keep the money in their own country and it’s better for health and the environment.

        Of course consumer grade solar panels are mostly a yuppie trend, but it is simply not even a question that solar energy can scale. I personally know of people who, when solar is given the same subsidies as petrocarbons, have run their entire houses on solar and have never paid the energy company a dime. As they say, never say something can’t be done to the man who is doing it.

        All it took was high energy prices in the 1970s and consumer electronics/appliances became 90% more efficient over the course of a few years. It just took some investment in engineering.

        Obviously we’re not going to replace oil completely and we wouldn’t want to. But, have you ever driven a proper electric car? It’s bad ass, the acceleration is far superior to gas engines. The Tesla has like 15% of the moving parts that a typical gas car has. For urban living and short commutes, electric cars are a no-brainer – and that is true even though battery technology basically sucks.

        The cities had electric street cars until the oil companies bought them up just to shut them down and sell more cars. Ever ridden an electric tram in a nice white city? It’s paradise. Fast, no noise, no smoke, clean and comfortable.

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      • Penny
        April 6, 2018

        Don’t get me wrong Hipster, I would love to have an electric car. It would make the cities far nicer places to live. But what I said about big power generation is true. It takes them days to start and shut down those big power generators. So even with all the houses adding solar power into the city grids, they still keep them running all the time.

        What they have to do is make the next technological leap. Yet they spend hardly anything on fusion research compared to what it could give back. I expect they won’t get serious about it, until the fuel runs out and billions of people start starving.

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    • icareviews
      April 6, 2018

      Some of this stuff you’re seeing in comments sections may simply be a manifestation of GOP guys just recently defecting for white nationalism and may be a temporary phase, but then again a lot of conservative personalities are just opposed to anything that’s new or unfamiliar. Herd those cats!

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  23. NoddingHead
    April 6, 2018

    “Keeping whites in charge of environmental protection is the best way to ensure a good stewardship of the earth – ”

    Exactly. I think there is way too much tolerance for AynRandian materialist anti-environmental ideology. The whole laughing at global warming thing is due to that libertarian/objectivist (((mindset))). Global warming is very real and it is not anything white conservatives should should deny or welcome. IMO

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    • Penny
      April 6, 2018

      When I noticed all the global warmers were were using Jewish tactics like calling people that disagreed with them “(Holocaust) Deniers”, my bullshit detector went off.

      I like the environment but you aren’t going to save it, by taxing the air to drain all the money out of white countries, so you can give it to brown countries. Brown countries have a worse track record of pollution than any white country. Their countries are toilets.

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      • Penny
        April 6, 2018

        White countries if they exist in the future, will invent the new technologies that will save the environment as we always have. Brown countries drain the money out of white countries, demand entry to white countries, and never invent anything.

        The global warming scam is not about saving the environment, its about sucking money out of white countries. If the left cared about saving the environment, they wouldn’t be trying to turn the whole planet into a third world toilet that never invents anything.

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      • bob saffron
        April 6, 2018

        Don’t forget that on the way to the Third World oligarchs, that money is clipped by JPM, GS, and all those houses eager to securitize and trade carbon. Green is a common Jewish surname.☺

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    • icareviews
      April 6, 2018

      You’re missing my point. I’m saying white solidarity comes first. You don’t exclude white people for disagreeing with you on some secondary or tertiary issue. I can be anti-gay and anti-Fed and still accept as a white nationalist someone who favors gay marriage and wants to retain Federal Reserve control over monetary policy. Differences on these or other issues like whether or not life begins at conception or how tax rates ought to be structured can be settled after uniting as whites.

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  24. bob saffron
    April 6, 2018

    Hell, I bet that carbon-credit vendor/jute plantation in Bangladesh doesn’t even exist.

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  25. NoddingHead
    April 7, 2018

    “Of course consumer grade solar panels are mostly a yuppie trend”

    Not really anymore. Many farmers and ranchers use solar all the time to provide power to remote irrigation wells (not trendy Yuppies doing it to virtue-signal). People who live in moderately remote areas use solar or wind because they don’t wabt to pay huge bucks for a power line several miles long, and all of the legal and bureaucratic stuff that comes with building the powerline over land they do not own. I think a lot of the antipathy towards these less-polluting energy sources derives from an out-of-date hatred of “hippies”. Why wouldn’t true conservatives love these innovative newer sources of electricitu that don’t require long transmission lines and long international supply chains for fuel?

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    • bob saffron
      April 9, 2018

      The antipathy is about the subsidies, not the technology per se.

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  26. NoddingHead
    April 8, 2018

    “These technologies don’t work and are not competitive.”

    Penny, these technologies do work, and they are locally more efficient than the 100-year-old incumbent technolgies of producing electricity from burning fossil fuels. And they are young technologies with efficiencies getting better at a far faster rate than the old technologies can ever hope for. Solar irradiation and wind will go on forever and ever as fuels. How can so-called conservative or libertarian people be against using these free and ubiquitous fuels? Do they love crony capitalism that much, without knowing it?

    Everyone knows (or at leasr should know) that fossil fuels are running out. Finite resource And we burn more every year. Every year, getting them out of the ground is more expensive. Deeper digging, higher costs.

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  27. NoddingHead
    April 8, 2018

    “But denying that burning petrocarbons affects the atmosphere is reactionary anti-environmentalist conservatism…”

    Well said Hipster.

    I see long trains full of coal going by every day and all of that solid carbon, previously sequestered in the ground for millions of years, is being put into the atmosphere every day. Thats just a few coal trains that I see. There is also the oil. The change in the chemical composition of the atmosphere is measurable, and it has been measured for decades. It is changing fast due to fossil-fuel burning. This is a fact.

    The greenhouse effect has been known for over 100 years. It is not controversial. It is proven physics. It is not a “theory”.

    Conservatives hate global warming because it is global in scale. There is only one atmosphere, and that is a fact. National borders or partisan politics don’t have any effect whatsoever on the composition of our one atmosphere.

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    • bob saffron
      April 9, 2018

      The Sun and clouds is where it’s at, not CO2.

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    • bob saffron
      April 9, 2018

      Get angry over pollutants, not CO2.

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    • bob saffron
      April 9, 2018

      There’s no global warming for two decades. That’s why even politicians now call it “climate change”.

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    • bob saffron
      April 10, 2018

      Isn’t your environmental concern best directed to potable water, over which wars are already fought? Don’t need 17 kooky models to know a poisoned river.

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  28. NoddingHead
    April 8, 2018

    And one more observation: plenty of Jews are on both sides of this debate. Another line of division.

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  29. NoddingHead
    April 9, 2018

    “There’s no global warming for two decades.”

    Total bullshit.

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      • icareviews
        April 10, 2018

        Even if you believe every environmentalist theory about America’s catastrophic eco-footprint, that footprint is widened and deepened with every immigrant who sets foot on U.S. soil. There actually is a group called Progressives for Immigration Reform which opposes immigration on this and other grounds.

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      • bob saffron
        April 10, 2018

        One thing I will grant the environmentalists, consumerism as we witness it today is poison. But, it’s pointless to rail against the symptom ignoring the cause. If there weren’t easy access to credit via the Fed and its client commercial banks, people wouldn’t have the wherewithal to buy all the crap that clogs their lives. They’d have to earn and save, then consume, the good old way. Mind you, without student loans we’d not have this plague of over-qualified SJW’s with their heads full of Marxist nonsense and their soft, moisturized hands.

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      • Hipster Racist
        April 10, 2018

        Credit existed before the Fed. Long before the Fed, Jew usurers were selling alcohol to European peasants on credit. You can’t have one without the other.

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      • bob saffron
        April 11, 2018

        Sure, but you’ll never ban credit, and prohibition of vices doesn’t work, either, just raises the prices. As long as workers are free to not buy alcohol, I see only moral suasion as a partial solution.

        On the other hand, the Fed is a monopoly. No one escapes its effects.

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      • icareviews
        April 11, 2018

        “… and prohibition of vices doesn’t work, either, just raises the prices.”

        But REAL White Sharia has never been tried.

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      • Hipster Racist
        April 11, 2018

        The Fed isn’t a monopoly. You’re free to trade gold and silver. There are many central banks in the world. The Fed isn’t even a “thing” in and of itself, it’s a cartel of independent banks. If spending on consumer shit is a vice, then how is ending the Fed going to do anything but raise the prices of consumer shit?

        When all you have is a hammer everything looks like a nail.

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      • B6r5s
        April 11, 2018

        If crypto displaces the dollar you can stop worrying about usary, because usary doesn’t work with currencies that can’t be debased.

        Interesting headline I saw the other day, some Soros tier Jews are moving into crypto.

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      • bob saffron
        April 13, 2018

        Of course, I can buy and sell gold and silver, just like vintage Rolexes, holding and disposing of them is not illegal. But legal tender laws stipulate that they are not *money*. The Fed is a Federal government entity, albeit with a peculiar charter. Its employees have Federal government employee numbers. Its profits are devolved to Treasury.

        By “vices” I was referring to the alcohol sold by Jewish publicans.

        Yes, to a certain extent, foreign central banks pursue inflationary policies to differing extents. The Swiss Central Bank has been more prudent than its Venezuelan counterpart. Still, CHF isn’t money except in Switzerland.

        Demand for consumer goods would *probably* fall if credit were less available. Re: the hammer – sure, money affects virtually everything, even for the ascetic.

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      • Hipster Racist
        April 14, 2018

        “Money” is a naturally occuring phenomenon when two sovereign individuals make a trade for mutual benefit. Legal tender laws only prevent you from demanding the government enforce a non-performing forward contract. For example, I can’t go into a restaurant with a bag full of pennies and expect to be seated. Only *if* they agree to feed me have I incurred a debt and that debt can be paid via whatever legal tender is available. All they have to do it put a sign on the door that says “no pennies” and refuse to serve anyone who doesn’t have credit cards.

        Bank checks get cleared through the Federal Reserve but no business is required to take checks.

        So legal tender laws absolutely do not in any way prevent anyone from “using gold and silver as money.”

        But the point was that credit doesn’t arise from the Fed. Credit may be more or less expensive but its availability has nothing to do with the Fed itself.

        If anything, it’s capitalism itself that causes consumerism. Even if there were no Fed, we’d still have a profit motive, thus the incentive to sell people things, thus, consumerism.

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  30. bob saffron
    April 14, 2018

    First, no one suggested that credit arose with the Fed; “easy access to credit” is what I said. Don’t believe me, look at the debt, public and private, on a chart since its foundation. Commercial banks loan money into existence and the Fed is their backer of last recourse.

    Second, private businesses can decline all sorts of payment modes, unlike government.
    https://www.csmonitor.com/Business/2011/0606/2-500-pennies-Is-it-legal-to-pay-a-bill-in-pennies

    Third, legal tender laws exist to protect the national currency from internal competition. Paper currencies historically always end up worthless.

    Fourth, the Fed does create money and does influence the interest rate.
    https://www.thebalance.com/how-is-the-fed-monetizing-debt-3306126

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    • Hipster Racist
      April 15, 2018

      Yes, I also took Econ 102. The claim was the consumerism was caused by the Fed, but consumerism is a part of capitalism, regardless of whatever type of monetary system a society uses. The implication was that all we have to do is convert to Austrianism and all our environmental problems go away, hence, the quip about hammers and nails.

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      • bob saffron
        April 17, 2018

        (I never got that in EC102). When money is tight, people economize and waste less. Good property rights help reduce waste, as does a cultural appreciation of the environment. Is that reductive enough for you?

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  31. bob saffron
    April 14, 2018

    “Consumerism” I’m using poetically to mean an *exaggerated* spending on lifestyle items and services. Obviously, there’d be little point in producing if consuming weren’t part of the human condition.

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    • Hipster Racist
      April 15, 2018

      Perhaps we should have central planning to make sure people don’t engage in “exaggerated” spending. We could appoint consumer managers to tell people what they *really* need and make sure they don’t buy stuff they don’t.

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      • bob saffron
        April 17, 2018

        Less money, more parsimony, sounds logical to me. As to what people want to spend their hard-earned on, that’s their business.

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  32. bob saffron
    April 14, 2018

    The legacy of that great patriot and man of the people, Paul Warburg.
    https://www.marketplace.org/2015/10/20/economy/big-book/how-secret-meeting-jekyll-island-led-fed

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  33. bob saffron
    April 14, 2018

    Issuing new money and eroding the value of the existing is less politically risky for governments than outright taxation. Banks and government ally to conspire against the population. Twas always thus.

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