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The Suicide Squad

Hipster Racist has been arguing recently with Hunter Wallace on Twitter about white nationalist rallies. I have trouble knowing what to make of the whole thing, but I know that to a normal person WN activities often seem like a complete shit show.

Not being a normal person, maybe I can explain a little why this is.

Progressive, or liberal, or leftist politics are the politics of the winners. At the top people make millions from it. A connected, influential lawyer will not have Wall Street money, but will be wealthy and powerful. At the lower levels public employees make good money and get great benefits, and even people with no financial reward- student protestors- get to go out, have fun, party and get laid.

Much of the population benefits to some extent from the system, but one part doesn’t. It isn’t smart enough, or socially adept enough, or properly inclined to participate. It’s maybe a little aspie and can’t see the point of parroting dumb things for status or money. Even if it tried, it is not needed as a participant but is needed as a scapegoat and target, and so it is.

Not everybody Jew-wise is a white nationalist, and not all white nationalists are Jew-wise, but it’s a similar process of becoming. Both beliefs are strongly socially sanctioned, and no more strongly than being mocked. America is for winners. Nobody wants to be a loser and people will strongly resist admitting to others and especially to themselves they are losers.

I’m sort of the bizarro world version of an SJW. The older SJW story is of coming from a religiously and intellectually conservative family, suffering some kind of abuse or alienation, and rebelling against it. I think now SJWs tend more to have been raised by other SJWs although a “kill white people” woman that got jumped on on Twitter recently was like this. It’s the same for me except just change “conservative” to “liberal”.

When I was a kid the 60’s protestors had achieved complete victory, political and cultural, and controlled all the institutions. Ayn Rand libertarian capitalism was the way to rebel and freak out the squares so that’s what I did.

I thought for a long time I was a middle-class American, if a low and precarious one. I came from ugly circumstances and struggled to get a decent job and a little money. I think a lot of GenXers have the same experience- two steps forward, one step back. It was the pattern the country followed from the 70’s to the 90’s. In each recession prosperity was lost, and then came back, but not as strong as before. Each peak was lower than the last. When things were going better people were relieved just to have jobs and tried not to notice they never completely got back what they had lost. They hoped things would eventually get better, but they never really did.

In the financial crisis I lost my pretty good job, and went through several years of unemployment and temporary employment. I had lost faith in the system after W went after his own supporters as racists in his failed bid for illegal alien amnesty in 2005. I lost the rest of my belief in the system with the bailouts.

I wasn’t sure if I was ever going to work again. If I was going to go, I was going to take a few of them with me at least. “If God wants me to be the Punisher, I guess I’ll be the Punisher” I told myself.

I eventually got a job- a bad, humiliating job, but a job- and was able to get married and have a kid. People sometimes thing I’m his grandfather. My life is still very precarious, I’m treated like garbage by my (((bosses))), and I may yet lose everything.

There are people out there with little to lose. I’m not eager to lose what I have but if I do, there is no reason to hold on to anything else.

I make a lower middle-class salary and live in the outskirts of a huge blue metropolis. I can’t afford to buy a house and even if I could it would be a dumb idea. Our Hispanic immigrant neighbors (some legal, some illegal) get Medicaid and subsidized electricity. They have nicer cars than we do. At my last job they treated everyone like shit, so at least there was camaraderie. At my current job they have people they like and people they don’t like, who tend to fall into certain ethnic and religious categories.

Historically most people have been seeds blowing in the wind, some finding fertile soil and sprouting, most getting eaten or shriveling up on hard rock. Your family, if you had one, was one way of feeling you weren’t nothing. Religion helped the less fortunate. Mass politics has come to substitute for religion, which is how you see fat, ugly people with blue hair rioting so Lloyd Blankfein can buy another house in Aspen.

The system wants peace, and normally provides it by ensuring a modest amount of prosperity and a sense of belonging. The New Deal way of doing this might roughly be described as “Americanism” which is called by us today civic nationalism. The higher level of system participant- all the way down to the average government employee- have this. For people depending on corporate employment, small business, and traditional social arrangements it’s gone forever.

For these people the system has one simple answer, delivered like a snarling wolf- shut the fuck up, or else. Or else what? I lose my shitty job and don’t have to go get humiliated everyday? I do this because I have a wife and kid, but a lot of young white guys don’t have a wife or kid or even a girlfriend and don’t have much prospect of getting one.

Humiliation is normally a very effective method of social control. But everything and everyone has its limits.

If you’re an angry person with nothing there comes the question of what to do about it. One option is to appear in public expressing taboo political opinions as part of a group. “You hate me, but I hate you too, and I defy you.” It’s not much but it’s something.

The far right is a suicide squad- people with nothing to lose and no hope just trying to do some damage on the way out. The leaders do ok. Richard Spencer is apparently independently wealthy by inheritance. I don’t know what Hunter Wallace does. Matt Heimbach collects dues and could be getting money under the table. Other people have YouTube channels.

I can’t tell anybody not to do this and I can’t say it’s not pretty pointless. What might not be pointless? I have my own ideas.




About thrasymachus33308

I like fast cars, fast women and southern-fried rock. I have an ongoing beef with George Orwell. I take my name from a character in Plato's "Republic" who was exasperated with the kind of turgid BS that passed for deep thought and political discourse in that time and place, just as I am today. The character, whose name means "fierce fighter" was based on a real person but nobody knows for sure what his actual political beliefs were. I take my pseudonym from a character in an Adam Sandler song who was a obnoxious jerk who pissed off everybody.

31 comments on “The Suicide Squad

  1. guest
    December 9, 2017

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  2. icareviews
    December 9, 2017

    Reblogged this on icareviews and commented:

    Is the last sentence an indication that this post will be continued – or is it just supposed to end on a downbeat and defeatist note? I hope your “own ideas” don’t tie back to that business about becoming the Punisher!


  3. Hipster Racist
    December 9, 2017

    Anybody with room temperature IQ who looks at the public record of what Matt Heimbach, Matt Parrott, Trad Youth/Workers, and Hal Turner/NSM have done for the last ten years can tell it’s all a complete fraud. It is just as fringe as it was ten years ago, and it will always be fringe. For some people, it’s a hobby, getting negative media attention and parading around for the anti-white media cameras dressed up in costumes and “neo-nazi” armbands. The fact that Matt Parrott admits that Matt Heimbach wears a WIRE should tell you the rest of the story.

    That is not pro-White activism. It’s something, but it’s not anything effective to advance the pro-white cause.

    As to why people like Wallace and Spencer, after having rightly washed their hands of Heimbach years ago, now have started collaborating with him again, who knows? But I can guess. Due to the, er, “special nature” of Hal Turner’s National Socialist Movement and their partners in Trad Workers, they have a core group of actors that are available on short notice to beef up any sort of “protest” you want – and you can be assured they will wear ridiculous costumes complete with armbands and swastikas and they WILL get media attention. Matt Heimbach has been a media favorite for ten years, traveling all over the country and getting featured in TV shows and newspapers for just showing up on a street corner with a sign. He’s a bona-fide celebrity

    Frankly, I think there is FAR more pro-White juice to be gained for exposing these frauds than collaborating with them. An important part of my “red pill,” if you will, was discovering that the “neo-nazi” movement – along with various 2000s “radical jihadist” groups – were fake. I could understand why fake “radical jihadi” groups were set up. But why fake “neo-nazi” groups?

    Wasn’t the Bush administration practically fascist? Haven’t Jews always been discriminated against in America? Don’t we suffer from institutional racism? Aren’t Antifa fighting the man? Wasn’t Trotsky right when he said that the rich pay the fascists in the street?

    Oh wait. No. Reality is actually almost the exact OPPOSITE of all that.

    Now I know, and it was thanks to discovering the truth about the people behind NSM/TY.

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  4. Hipster Racist
    December 9, 2017


    I understand what you are getting at with the “Suicide Squad” and people who just want to tear things down. But I don’t think that is what is happening here, because the mistake is assuming that a) there is some serious core group of “activists” that are fed up, at wits end, and just want to tear things down and b) that this isn’t a highly choreographed media campaign.

    A few years ago, a TV news special was done with “Traditional Youth,” Heimbach’s group. The group consisted of three people. Heimbach, two other guys, one a typical “skinhead” type that came across as not particularly bright. Their “activism” consisted of chalking some slogan on a college campus – a college campus that Heimbach and the other guy didn’t even go to. So you are talking about ONE college student, Heimbach, and some other guy who didn’t go to that college. Their “activism” consisted of ZERO other than posing before the cameras and doing an interview.

    Up until last year, Heimbach’s biggest “success” was what they called the “Battle of Sacramento.” This was a “protest” at the state capital in Sacramento California. A group of about 20 people, who called themselves “Golden Gate Skinheads” and were loosely affiliated with Heimbach (but neither created nor organized nor recruited by him or anyone in Trad Youth) got a permit, showed up, and made sure that Antifa, who has a huge presence in Northern California) were there. Antifa took the bait, attacked, the skinheads defended themselves and a few people were stabbed. There was one video of a chaotic semi-riot, a few arrests and hospitalizations. The media coverage was simply “neo-Nazis attack anti-Fascist protestors.” Yet this was hailed as a crowning achievement of “activism.” Heimbach wasn’t even there.

    This is nothing but a pageant, a show. Heimbach runs what amounts to a theater troupe and a lot of the people who are his “constituency” are just the leftovers from skinhead groups in the 1980s and the comical National Socialist Movement. Heimbach’s been able to organize them because a) Heimbach has close ties to the media and can guarantee media coverage and b) he’s apparently being funded.

    I’m sure that the Golden Gate skinheads are truly a group of “Suicide Squad” types – there’s about 20 of them. California has 40 million people. 20 out of 40 million. That’s not even a rounding error. That’s not even noise.

    Step away from the rhetoric. Step away from the media coverage. Step away from the “ideologies” being promoted here. Just look at the objective facts. The entire “Heimbach wing” of the “movement” is about 100 people – who get MASSIVE media coverage, even if they just show up to some college campus and draw chalk slogans on a sidewalk. The 100 people aren’t even a full time group, really, it’s essentially run by Heimbach and Parrott – and a lot of the numbers come from National Socialist Movement, which remember was essentially operated by the FBI informant Hal Turner.

    This isn’t a “movement” – it’s a play. It’s a “reality TV” show.

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    • Maureen Martin, Aryan Street
      December 10, 2017

      I’ve met the Golden State Skinheads. They’re the real deal. Heimbach…I’m not so sure about. He’s GRINNING at the most inappropriate moments (see 12:10 for instance) during speeches at the Kate Steinle protest-

      Perhaps he is laughing at the antics of the crazy left-wingers…but it seems with all his experience, he’d be more focused than that.

      And don’t even get me started on that lying rat faced Jew Mike “Enoch”…yelling like an old time fire and brimstone preacher. Yuck.

      The whole thing begins to look like a circus…on both sides. Most normal people want nothing to do with this sort of thing but….

      What is it we should be doing in your opinion HR?

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      • Hipster Racist
        December 10, 2017

        One of Heimbach’s first “activisms” was inviting Jared Taylor to Towson University. NO Towson students showed up, instead, they bused in an ALL black audience from a black college nearby. Taylor does his typical deal, patiently giving a speech and answering “questions” from a bunch of ridiculous and stupid anti-white black students.

        The video is on youtube. Go watch Heimbach. While these ridiculous and stupid black students are saying all this nasty stuff about white people and Jared Taylor, Heimbach is literlly GRINNING. He’s enjoying the entire ridiculous spectacle. That is not how a normal person acts. It’s how someone with a fetish acts.

        Go to youtube watch another Heimbach “activism.” This time he’s dressed up like some Russian from Siberia, holding some sign outside of a conservative conference, “protesting” … “for Putin?” Something supposedly about Christianity? Anyway, a White conservatives comes out to ask him what he’s doing, gets a little bit hostile – and Matt Heimbach starts GRINNING. It’s his fetish. He loves to dress up in a costume, cause some sort of public scene, then when he gets negative and/or hostile attention, he gets off on it, he starts grinning, obviously getting a great deal of satisfaction.

        This isn’t “pro-White activism.” This isn’t recruiting anyone to White Identity. This isn’t reclaiming public space to be pro-White. This isn’t clever use of the media. It’s a fucking sexual fetish. And the media LOVES it, the anti-white, Jewish media, LOVES Matt Heimbach because they know every time they put him on camera, grinning like some wierdo, all of the viewers think, “well, gee, if that weirdo is what being pro-white is all about, I want nothing to do with it!”

        Heimbach/Parrott and the fake group “Trad Workers” are a little bit more clever than National Socialist Movement. Everyone already knows about (((Hollywood Nazis))) so Heimbach does a “crypto” act. The Trad Workers armbands aren’t actually a swastika, it’s a pseudo-swastika. Matt Heimbach doesn’t dress up exactly like a (((Hollywood Nazi))) just with costumes that kind of remind you of a (((Hollywood Nazi))) So people are more likely to work with them, and then Heimbach/Parrott run directly to the media and do appearances with the Hal Turner’s National Socialist Movement who DO the full (((Hollywood Nazi))) act, complete with costumes. I mean, really, who wears ARMBANDS? You can’t go to TJ Maxx and buy an armband. That’s a prop – it’s a fucking COSTUME. You have to go to a costume shop, or order than from a Hollywood studio.

        How STUPID are people, that they can’t just look at this entire Reality TV show and see it’s an act, it’s fake, it’s like the Kardashian Family? Guess what? Matt Heimbach isn’t a “real activist” anymore than Caitlyn Jenner is really a “woman.”

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      • Hipster Racist
        December 10, 2017


        What is it we should be doing in your opinion HR?

        Last month, a bunch of trolls on 4chan – high school students mostly – hatched a brilliant plan and pulled it off FLAWLESSLY. They printed out flyers – just plain white pieces of paper with black text – that read “It’s OK To Be White.” They posted them all over their high schools and colleges. It created a MASSIVE shit show in the media. I read all the comments about it – anti-whites were tripping over themselves trying to explain why it’s “not ok to be white.” Normal, regular average white people were saying, “hey what is wrong with being white? How is this a hate crime? Are you really saying that it’s not ok to be white?”

        Those kids from 4chan pulled off the GREATEST “activism” I’ve seen in a decade. It cost ZERO dollars. It required no real organization. No one got in trouble. It received massive media attention that average White people saw and reacted in a positive, pro-white manner. “Well, of course it’s ok to be white. Anti-whites are the ones being racist and hateful here.”

        Identity Evropa does banner drops, they did a memorial for Kate Steinle. Occasionally they will do a “demonstration” of some kind. They are great. I frankly don’t really “trust” Richard Spencer, but his college campus tour is great stuff. Spencer is the perfect guy to do speeches to a college audience. The anti-whites show up and make themselves look like hateful fanatics. Spencer knows how to handle anti-white media. If the colleges try to shut him down, Kyle Bristow of Freedom Foundation – which is like a pro-White version of the ADL/$PLC – sues them under the First Amendment. It’s great. It’s effective pro-White “activism.”

        Frankly, blogging in the last decade has utterly changed the tide. Look what the White Rabbit people do – they just go to “normie” websites and post “anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.” IT WORKS. Normal, average, every day White people ARE getting the message. These people who say they are “against racism” are really just against White people. It’s effective. “Internet activism” has proved to be FAR more effective than “street protests” or whatever.

        There are a dozen young pretty White girls doing youtube videos, essentially telling young White girls, “hey, it’s ok to be White.” I used to whine and bitch five years ago how there were no White women mentoring young White girls about marriage and family – now, there are PLENTY of them. Wife With a Purpose, Lana Lokteff, Brittney Pettibone, Tara McCarthey. Pro-White White women, mentoring younger White girls. Great stuff.

        So I think things are looking up. We’re winning the “mind war” – and once we win the “mind war” it’s basically over, we win.

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      • Sam J.
        December 14, 2017

        I get your point about Heimbach but some of the protest stuff Hunter does are good. Publicly stating what most Whites believe creates solidarity. Hunter has done some protest where they protested Somalians in Tennessee taking jobs at plants. I think it’s good. The stuff by 4Chan was pure brilliance and fantastic.

        One problem I have with your point of view is that even if Heimbach is a Jewish agent I don’t think ooohhh Nazi, shame, shame, has quite the impact it used to have. I think even if he does cartoonish things, if he names the Jew, it’s a negative for the Jews. They don’t believe this or they would ignore him but I don’t think Jews have a perfect score on human psychology. I think having all sorts of pressure in all different sorts of ways on the Jews is a win for us, over all, no matter where it comes from.


      • Hipster Racist
        December 14, 2017

        @Sam J

        Publicly stating what most Whites believe creates solidarity.

        Heimbach hasn’t even done any of that. Instead Heimbach says crazy shit and now he quotes bizarre fascist gobbeldy-gook from 1920s Eastern Europe. His entire act is designed precisely to alientate the white working class he fraudulently pretends to “organize.”

        Put yourself in the shoes of an average white working class man that is NOT already “red pilled.” Heimbach would just come across as some weirdo – possibly an actor from a reality TV show.

        The proof is ten years of Heimbach’s bullshit has done nothing to advance the pro-White cause. Meanwhile, the people who do pretty much the opposite of Heimbach have.


  5. Hipster Racist
    December 10, 2017

    Here’s Kevin DeAnna, the guy who started the real “White Student Union” in Toronto, Canada.

    Now here’s Matt Heimbach, who did NOT start any actual “White Student Union” at Towson University, but instead just invited ABC news to film him while he was walking around – LITERALLY – just walking around, pretending to “protect White women” (even though no White women were present, Towson University has a very safe campus, and a professional security force.) WTF was Heimbach doing? NOTHING. He was acting for the camera.

    Kevin DeAnna gets virtually no coverage in the anti-white media, because anyone who listens to Kevin DeAnna knows he’s right. Matt Heimbach, on the other hand, is an actual celebrity, despite doing NOTHING ever, and has gotten a decade of massive media coverage from ABC News, the New York Times, Atlantic, etc. Matt Heimbach started acting for the anti-white media when he was a sophomore in college, just like the Jew Andrew Britt Greenbaum, who called himself (LOL) “Commander Davis Wolfgang Hawke” – who did Matt Heimbach’s act ten years before Heimbach – he also dressed up in “neo-nazi” costumes and pretended he was doing “campus activism” but was of course doing nothing but acting. Now it’s Heimbach, doing “protests” in which he does some ridiculous Hogan’s Heroes act for Hal Turner’s National Socialist Movement who screams “Heil Heimbach” in from of the TV cameras.

    Who can possibly be stupid enough to fall for this act? Do you think professional wrestling is “real?” Do you think that reality TV shows aren’t scripted?

    Kevin DeAnna organized Students for Western Civilization on seven college campuses. Matt Heimbach organized ZERO “White Student Unions” – not even at his own campus, Towson University. Matt Heimbach literally did ZERO, except for make dozens of appearances on TV.

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    • bob saffronb
      December 13, 2017

      That was a very polished speech by DeAnna. Good that the interviewer allowed him to expound fully his points.

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    • Sam J.
      December 14, 2017

      Great point. I didn’t know all the things you covered.


    • Sam J.
      December 14, 2017

      That guy Kevin DeAnna is really impressive. His exposition of the ideas of the left is very illuminating. He brings out the stark contrast between what they say and what these words mean. You’ve often talked about memes. I bet striped down there’s several good memes in what he said.


    • bob saffron
      December 25, 2017

      @ HR: For the record, that’s George Hutcheson, the Canadian student activist. Merry Christmas to you.


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  7. Joey
    December 12, 2017

    “Hipster Racist has been arguing recently with Hunter Wallace on Twitter”

    There’s your first mistake right there, Hipster. Thinking a man like Brad can be taught anything.

    I am going to say some mean but true things about Brad Griffin. He is a dumbshit of the most dangerous kind. He is a dumbshit that thinks he is smart.

    Let me explain how I came to this conclusion.

    I posted Bob Whitaker’s memes on his blog for years, hoping Brad would get it, but he never did. This genius only got over his scepticism of meme warfare, after the memers got Trump elected.

    And what did this genius learn were the best memes? Not pointing out anti-racist is a code word for anti-White, or White Genocide, even after Hillary said White Genocide and Trump retweets it. Nooooo. The silent green frog is the most effective meme, according to Brad. And according to Brad, the gas chamber memes have nothing to do with Pro Whites getting purged from Twitter. DUH…

    Bob Whitaker called university educated idiots like Brad, Mommy Professors. Instead of using meme warfare, they write long boring essays no one remembers the next day. Even now, you can see the Pro White Mommy Professors, writing their long boring essays on Twitter. One long boring thought will take them 20+ numbered Tweets AND they do this several times per day! And it is always long essays about what they would do if only the meanie anti-Whites would hand them power.

    I knew Charlottesville would be a disaster based on my experience with Brad Griffin. Same as I knew Twitter would be ruined as soon as I saw the Stormer crowd posting their gas chamber memes. Call it common sense. Call it intuition if you like.

    I remember seeing an Israeli Zionist let something slip on Youtube. He said the Arabs are so stupid, the Jews can always count on them to defeat themselves. That is how I see the Mommy Professors and other idiots who control the Pro White movement. If we win it will be in spite of them.

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    • Hipster Racist
      December 13, 2017


      Sadly, I can’t disagree with anything you said.


    • Sam J.
      December 14, 2017

      Maybe Hunter is not as smart as you but he’s hardly your enemy and you should probably give some thought to that. It may very well be that Hunter reaches people on a level that your or others level of perception doesn’t. I don’t think you feeling like he must present issues “in your way” or be “wrong” is a very productive enterprise at all. So he likes to write about things in a long form instead of catchy slogans…so what?


      • Joey
        December 16, 2017

        So what???

        What he and his Mommy Professor pals do doesn’t work and has never worked. If you asked them to show proof that what they do works, they wouldn’t even understand your question.

        I don’t consider myself smart, just average, and that is the sad part. That me a dude who knows he is decidedly average, has no respect for their intelligence or common sense.

        I see you don’t understand meme warfare either, Sam, which makes this whole conversation pointless. Meme warfare is the stuff the left uses that makes Whites wet their pants, and give all their countries away. Essays do not protect Whites against meme warfare, but the Mommy Profs of the movement keep writing them and refusing to use what works.

        While the left destroys Whites using meme warfare, the Mommy Professors of the Conservative and WN movements, churn out millions of essays that no one reads, they try to build up glorified social clubs, and beg their followers to send them money.

        This activity didn’t work in the past (it is what got us here). It doesn’t work now, and will never work in the future.

        A leader who won’t use what works, is leading the people in his charge to the Gulags. He is just as criminal as the medical professional that won’t use what works. People like that are no friends of mine, Sam. They deserve a boot up the rear.


  8. Maureen Martin, Aryan Street
    December 12, 2017

    Thanks for the great discussion guys.

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  9. 14sonnenrad88
    December 12, 2017

    @Hipster Racist

    Not all these female activists are good for the cause. Tara McCarthy amd Philosicat for instance, are about as legitimate as Lauren Southern and Sinead McCarthy hmm… Another (((McCarthy)))?
    They claim to be pro-white, but with strong feminist undertones of female “empowerment” and shaming men within the movement. As if somehow not settling down with a provider and having babies can somehow save the white race from extinction. Every woman I associate myself with is a supportive homemaker and mother, and can see through any attention seeking childless E-Thots.

    Just my $0.02


    • Hipster Racist
      December 13, 2017


      I disagree. This comes from conflating the internet with real life, and the conflation of “the movement” or “activism” with your actual community.

      In real life, in a real community, feminism is bad and we very much need early monogamous marriages. All those youtube chicks are promoting that – even if they are somewhat hypocritical about it (and their hypocrisy is likely half of the hypocrisy of most men in “the movement” online and off.)

      Most men on youtube are “e-thots” as well. Also, “thot” is black slang – why are we using black slang to attack White women? As for “shaming” – I cannot be shamed by what some chick says in a youtube video.

      For the record, I’m a long time “manosphere” pro-patriarchy bloggers. But there is zero to be gained, and much to be lost, by whining about the alleged personal lives of Tara and women like her. As for the shrieking harpies like Sinead – eh, who cares, she’s a literal nutjob – even though she is married with kids.

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  10. bob saffronb
    December 13, 2017

    I like Melissa Mészáros. Her message and manner.


  11. james
    December 13, 2017

    Was it just this year when Hunter Wallace was writing posts on WN1.0 and the need to learn from the mistakes of the past? Very disappointing to see the current “movement” shitshow.


  12. GradeAAmateur
    December 13, 2017

    Did Matt Heimbach even show up in Charlottesville? Why is he never around when it gets hot at a public event?


  13. KSA
    December 21, 2017

    How old were you when you had your first kid?


    • thrasymachus33308
      December 24, 2017

      Well people think I’m his grandpa sometimes.


      • KSA
        January 6, 2018

        Like Donald Trump, who had Barron when he was 60 or so?


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