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Invasion of the Culture Snatchers

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Last year, Shout! Factory rereleased Philip Kaufman’s 1978 Invasion of the Body Snatchers remake through its Scream Factory label. Included on the stacked Blu-ray are interview extras imported from the 2007 MGM DVD release plus two commentaries and new interviews with members of the cast and crew. Interestingly, what emerges from the array of supplements is a lack of solid consensus about the movie’s meaning and significance. The film’s star, Donald Sutherland, preferring to leave the matter vague, only remarks that Invasion of the Body Snatchers was “politically sensible”, while screenwriter W.D. Richter disagrees, insisting, “It wasn’t political […] It was just kind of a vote for, don’t become a conformist, don’t march with the herd.” Leading lady Brooke Adams, meanwhile, had the impression that the movie was somehow about “fascism”. “I thought that was what it was in Invasion of the Body Snatchers,” she says, adding that director Kaufman confirmed for her that this was true. If Kaufman said so, he was lying. The director, if unforthcoming, is more honest during his audio commentary when he says, “It’s a film about […] the process of change. […] If it’s a metaphor, it’s […] the metaphor of humanity being lost, of a certain type of person, of a certain type of life that can vanish or fade away or disappear or become transformed in some way.” This essay elaborates on that “process of change” and, at the very least, seeks to dispel the notion of critic Richard Schickel that the remake’s screenplay is “laughably literal”.

Don Siegel’s original 1956 version of Invasion of the Body Snatchers, alternately interpreted as an allegory about either communist subversion or McCarthyism, lends itself to either reading through its broad treatment of the themes; but the same cannot be said for Kaufman’s 1978 film, which invites a much more particular interpretation. Much had changed in the more than twenty years that had passed since the previous film, most importantly the cultural Marxist experimentation and coup represented by the sixties-seventies counterculture and the sexual revolution. The first clue that the remake will be concerning itself with these social upheavals is the shift from the smalltown setting of the first film to contemporary San Francisco, ground zero for the counterculture and source of its exportation to the rest of the United States. 1978 was “sort of the end of the kind of hippie era,” the director remembers. Kaufman “wanted to move it into […] San Francisco,” composer Denny Zeitlin offers, “because he wanted this 1978 version to really just be full of urban paranoia.” Inadvertently giving an indication of what, potentially, might contribute to an air of paranoia in San Francisco, actor Art Hindle, in another interview, observes, “They just updated it, and they picked a fabulous city to shoot it in, uh, for so many reasons. Uh, there’s such a cross-section of people in San Francisco.” Indeed, the location shooting makes much of the city’s kaleidoscope of diversity.

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Leonard Nimoy and Jeff Goldblum huddle with director Philip Kaufman on the set of Invasion of the Body Snatchers.

The opening moments of the movie, moreover, make clear that the import of all of this is specifically racial, with a garbage truck crossing the Golden Gate Bridge, the word “WHITE” displayed conspicuously on the front of the vehicle. This is the story of the disposal of the European race, which is characterized from the outset as trash. Garbage trucks, seen more than once in the film, carry away the weed-like waste matter resulting from San Franciscans’ replication by alien pods. The impostor-people with their extraterrestrial spore-spawned pods provide the key to understanding the movie’s racial dynamic. Howard Preston, who designed the aliens’ home world as glimpsed in a prologue, remembers, “There was a sun that kind of […] had a bad case of measles, and that was supposed to be the sun that is going to doom this planet and cause these spores to go and try to find a better home.” Making the meaning of the spores’ ordeal more apparent, the Invasion of the Body Snatchers theatrical trailer announces, “They come from a dying world. They drift through the universe, pushed on by the solar winds. They adapt and they survive.” It is the intense heat of a sun that condemns them and drives them to emigrate in order to evade the cataclysm of a holocaust; and the second phase of the spores’ survival strategy involves adaptation – crypsis – which will enable the things to thrive among the host world’s lifeforms. The trailer’s narrator speaks over a rousing bagpipe rendition of “Amazing Grace” – a Christian hymn thus providing the ironic background to the alien group’s catastrophe and exodus. Interestingly, “Amazing Grace” is utilized to different effect in the context in which it occurs in the film. The bagpipes sound as Sutherland’s protagonist, Matthew Bennell, thinks he has found a means of escape by sea – only to have his hopes dashed in disillusionment when he discovers that the ship and its crew are in the service of the invasion force, the implication being that Christianity, too, represents a false hope of salvation. Early in the movie, Robert Duvall enjoys a cameo as a priest on a swing who, as Art Hindle explains (and as Kaufman confirms in his commentary), “was probably the first body-snatched character” – possibly a sly allusion to the subversive Jewish manipulation of Vatican II. “My feeling was that if you’re doing a horror movie, there should be a priest in it,” Kaufman snipes. A counterculture participant who also worked on an Israeli kibbutz, Kaufman can be assumed to have a high degree of self-consciousness as a Jew. “They get you while you sleep” is a line of dialogue in the film referring to the way in which the duplicated pod-people replicate the humans’ bodies while they are asleep – i.e., racially unaware. “That’s one of the things, you know, which is in accord with all the great religious teachings which say wake up,” Kaufman adds, though the “They get you while you sleep” metaphor is more applicable to the idea of the red pill on race-consciousness and the Jewish Question – and, indeed, the protagonist gobbles some speed pills at one point in order to try to stay awake.

San Francisco, in addition to its port, is also home to the Transamerica Pyramid (or “Pod Central”, as Kaufman dubs it), which is featured prominently throughout the film. Invasion of the Body Snatchers was released by United Artists, which, as its logo indicated during these years, was “a Transamerica Company”, a subsidiary of the investment giant. On one level, the conspicuousness of the Pyramid is mere self-promotional product placement; but the obsessiveness with which it appears again and again imbues the image with the value of a symbol. The Pyramid, a striking feat of sinister modern architecture, is at the same time a reminder of an ancient imperiousness and an exotic inscrutability, vaguely conveying malevolence, its acute angles seeming to suggest a massive spike jutting up from the bowels of the earth and through the San Francisco skyline – some arcane and forgotten evil manifesting here and now. One has the sense, as well, that the Transamerica building serves as a beacon or headquarters of sorts for the alien presence in the city, hinting at Jewish domination of the financial sphere. As investigators are increasingly aware, it was the financial establishment itself that backed the countercultural revolution of the twentieth century.

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Donald Sutherland, as Matthew Bennell, finds a rat turd in the soup.

The subjugation of sovereign nations was furthered through the financial agenda of neoliberalization, the erasure of economic distinctions between nations. “The idea of the pod became a symbol or a metaphor of the standardized thing that the culture was asking of us,” comments Hollywood development executive Christopher Vogler. “It was asking us all to create a new mass culture, something that would work on the world scale, and in order to do that you had to sacrifice some individuality, so you had to get squeezed down into some kind of a pod.” The film’s composer, Denny Zeitlin, remembers that Kaufman sought to “have the camera move through streets of shoppers, you know, having lost their souls in a department store.” “I think the big reason to change it [i.e., the film’s setting] from a small town to a big city was […] the idea that a big city was where you could lose your individuality,” W.D. Richter adds. He and Vogler are imprecisely correct. It is not only the individual’s identity that is compromised by the mass culture of globalism, but people’s ethnic and national identities. The individualization and atomization of the citizenry through pop culture, consumerism, and psychology was, in fact, a key component of the countercultural coup. “You know, pods just watch anything that’s on. […] it’s part of the podding of America,” the director observes of the pods’ TV viewing habits. “You know, the extensive commercials that we just watch while our minds go out the window, really.” “I love the cracked windshield here,” Kaufman also says of the protagonist’s (and the viewer’s) automotive point of view in another scene. “It just gives the proper outlook on the city, following the strange people in the street […]” The web of cracks in the glass appropriately fractures and atomizes the non-society of the diverse and the alienated. Kaufman reflects that “being a pod [i.e., a rootless and cosmopolitan global citizen, or Jewified man] cuts across all races, all sexes, and all religions. Anybody is capable of becoming a pod.” True enough, the pods are shown being loaded onto a ship for eventual export to other nations.

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Leonard Nimoy as Dr. David Kibner

As Kaufman recounts, “there were also, as exemplified by Leonard Nimoy[’s character, Dr. David Kibner], the kind of pop psychologists who were, uh, telling everybody to relax, everything’s going to be okay, take it easy – in a sense, trying to humanize people by dehumanizing them in some way.” “In the seventies, a lot changes,” Kaufman adds during his commentary. “You have a lot of therapies that are trying to tell us and make us understand that everything’s alright, but as we all know, everything’s not alright – and, in fact, I feel that […] everything that was being talked about in Body Snatchers has come to pass and that we are now living in the world largely controlled by pods.” “Don’t be trapped by old concepts,” Kibner instructs his followers, all while seeming to espouse a concern for their personal and marital health. At the book release party for Kibner’s new masterwork of psychological literature, a mirror on a wall furnishes the guests with an appropriately distorted image of themselves – much as Kibner’s book will, the viewer is left to speculate. Kibner is, of course, revealed to be one of the aliens – the casting of Nimoy, a strikingly Semitic-looking actor, arousing suspicions in audiences familiar with Nimoy’s association with the science fiction genre through Star Trek – and, before that, Zombies of the Stratosphere (1952) and The Brain Eaters (1958). Kibner, Kaufman considers, “is a pod [at the end of the film], but as a pod he is almost the same guy that he was, only maybe slightly less so – or more so […] It’s almost hard to tell if he has been changed […]” If Jews were replaced with aliens, Kaufman seems to be asking, would we notice? In addition, Kibner affects a strange half-glove that could allude to the practice in Judaism of wearing tefillin (“And it shall be for a sign for you upon your hand […] that the law of the LORD may be in your mouth; for with a strong hand did the LORD bring you out of Egypt,” Exodus prescribes).

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Brooke Adams channels Eve as the replicated Elizabeth Driscoll.

 

The CIA and the FBI, one character guesses, are “pods already” – and, as revisionist cultural historians are increasingly aware, the CIA had its own role to play in seeding (or podding, as the case might be) the counterculture. “Flower power”, quintessential controlled opposition, was largely a Jewish creation, a means of dividing the generations through cultural subversion, and a COINTELPRO-style tool to marginalize legitimate citizen activism – as well as a lucrative product to merchandize, of course. “Well, why not a space flower?” asks the intriguingly far-out character Nancy, played by the very Aryan-looking Veronica Cartwright. “Why do we always expect metal ships? […] Look, there’s bound to be other ways they can get into our systems. […] We would never even notice it – not from the impurities that we have. I mean, we eat junk and we breathe junk […]” Interestingly, the alien presence on earth in Invasion of the Body Snatchers first takes the form of a rapid proliferation of strange little blossoms that grow “like parasites” – Bloom, it may be worthwhile to note here, also being a common Jewish name – a resonance reinforced by the casting of Jeff Goldblum as a poet and mud baths proprietor named Jack Bellicec. There could be a metaphor in the mud baths for the muck in which the counterculture was to dunk America. Funnily, a chase scene takes some characters past a couple of live sex shows that the pod-people completely ignore, the denizens of these places presumably already having been neutralized one way rather than the other. The sexual lure of the pods as a means of undermining the humans’ defenses and consolidating the infiltration is also emphasized when, after leading lady Brooke Adams’s character, Elizabeth Driscoll, is replicated, her pod replacement rises nude and beckons to Sutherland’s Matthew Bennell, appearing from behind some shrubbery like a tempting Eve in Eden. In one of the movie’s most infamous moments, a botched replication produces a dog with the head of a hobo, visualizing the ultimately degrading purpose of the sexualization and animalization of man. This scene, appropriately enough given the relevance of the counterculture to the theme of the film, is accompanied by some banjo playing from none other than Jerry Garcia of the Grateful Dead.

Denny Zeitlin reveals that Sutherland’s character was originally supposed to be a jazz saxophonist. Instead, the decision was made to turn Bennell into a health inspector, so that the protagonist has an air of honest, non-spooky officialdom but is, in the parlance of the seventies, a representative of “The Man”. Bennell stands in natural conflict, then, with the promoters of unsanitary (and probably allegorical) filth and disease. (His friendship with the proprietor of the mud baths, therefore, is rather ironic and maybe intended as a joke.) Bennell’s latent or subtextual anti-Semitic and nativist function is illustrated when, early in the film, he makes a surprise inspection of a cosmopolitan restaurant with a Mediterranean-looking manager and more than one non-white face in the kitchen. Hilariously, Bennell finds a symbolic rat turd polluting a pot of the restaurant’s soup – as pungent a critique of the “melting pot” as one could possibly imagine. Non-white extras are used throughout the film to emphasize the aura of distrustfulness that has descended upon the city. Elizabeth, for instance, apologizes after getting in the way of a Chinese man in a hallway – after which the man gazes after her with enigmatic suspicion. After Kibner reveals himself as a pod-person and has Bennell and Elizabeth as his captives, a representative black man pinions Bennell’s arms as Kibner prepares his conversion. Like a Jew, Kibner explains that he only seeks to create a planet free of racial bigotry. “You will be born again into an untroubled world: free of anxiety, fear, hate,” adding, “There’s no need for hate now” – now, that is, that every potential source of dissent is to be rendered mentally uniform. “David, you’re killing me!” Bennell protests, the dual close-up of his face and Kibner’s emphasizing the Jew-gentile conflict (similarly, in a cameo for the original’s director, Don Siegel’s cab driver is seen in a shadowy profile shot that highlights the Jewishness of his nose and enhances viewer suspicions that he may be one of the pod-people). Bellicec, though seemingly friendly and independent of the alien/Jew agenda, is in this pivotal moment decidedly on the side of Kibner and one-world Jewified pod domination of the planet, Bellicec’s ethnonational sentiments having come into play when it counts.

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Veronica Cartwright freaks out as Nancy Bellicec.

Elizabeth is one of the first characters to suspect a “conspiracy” is at work. Bennell, the righteous but misguided normie, fails to take her suspicions seriously at first, and in fact suggests that she consult Dr. Kibner, insinuating that she is only emotionally troubled and therefore imagining things. Nancy, the Aryan truth-seeker, who ironically and rather tragically is married to Bellicec, is quick to agree that the strange goings-on are evidence of a conspiracy. Nancy, like so many well-intentioned internet dweebs of today, is something of an aficionado of zany revisionist theories and alternative ideas. She mentions having read Immanuel Velikovsky’s Worlds in Collision more than once, and eventually she reveals her interest in the ancient aliens theory: “Yeah, they could start getting into our systems and screwing up our genes like DNA, recombining us, changing us,” she frets in words that could be read as expressing horror at the prospect of miscegenation. “Oh, of course,” Nancy continues her wild-eyed tirade, “this is just the same way those rocket ships landed thousands of years ago so those spacemen could mate with monkeys and apes and create the human race. It’s happening now!” Like so many would-be investigators and researchers in the present, Nancy has a piece of the truth but is gullible and incapable of distinguishing between legitimate research and the likes of David Icke. Whatever important information she has to share with the world is muddled and muddied with disinformation that makes her sound like the lunatic that, in all likelihood, she partially is. Ineffectual and ultimately self-defeating, hers is the blue-eyed horror that we in the audience share when she comes to the chilling conclusion about whom she and we can trust.

Rainer Chlodwig von K.

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68 comments on “Invasion of the Culture Snatchers

  1. icareviews
    September 2, 2017

    Reblogged this on icareviews.

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  2. BMan
    September 2, 2017

    This article is excellent.

    This is the story of the disposal of the European race, which is characterized from the outset as trash.

    I always liked this movie. I never gave it much thought (I don’t watch or analyze many movies). But this gives it a whole new meaning for me.

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  3. BMan
    September 2, 2017

    Reblogged this on B'Man's Revolt and commented:

    This (movie) is the story of the disposal of the European race, which is characterized from the outset as trash.

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  5. Karen T
    September 2, 2017

    A great article, absolutely convincing, which brings up the question as to why Jewish Philip Kaufman would spill the beans…mischief? arrogance? inside joke? warning?

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    • guest
      September 2, 2017

      Apparently that’s half the fun of it!

      Or then calling out your lying eyes.

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  6. smartwhiteguy
    September 2, 2017

    Don’t get snatched!

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  7. guest
    September 3, 2017

    *** Breaking news ***

    A satellite just captured, for the first time, a picture skynet!

    Peel the power, white power!

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    • guest
      September 3, 2017

      That’s a nod to: “A Greek Life retreat at the University of Mississippi (Ole Miss) was promptly cancelled this weekend after a banana peel was found hanging in a tree.”

      Oh and fuck carrots!

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  8. NoddingHead
    September 3, 2017

    Anyone else watch UCLA vs Texas A&M? Amazing game. “Chosen Rosen” was on fire. Incredible comeback. Clearly identified as a Jew in major sports media. Quite assimilated. I always like seeing the PAC 12 beating the SEC. Good TV.

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  9. Cartman
    September 4, 2017

    Not bad at all. I remember when I was a teenager watching the 1956 version and suddenly realising that it was about the Mccarthy period.It was like stumbling into a whole new dimension of reality.

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  10. Maureen Martin, Aryan Street
    September 4, 2017

    Reblogged this on Aryan Street and commented:
    Oh so that’s what this movie was about!

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  11. James OMeara
    September 5, 2017

    Excellent article, brilliant review! I’ve looked at Jews/flames/Holocaust motifs in Olaf Stapledon’s scifi novella The Flames:

    https://www.counter-currents.com/2013/11/a-light-unto-the-nations-reflections-on-olaf-stapledons-the-flames/

    Peter Bredon has looked at wise-cracking Martians as Jews too:

    http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2017/05/04/whats-up-dr-mack-martians-go-home-and-the-ordeal-of-civility/

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  12. James OMeara
    September 5, 2017

    “Interestingly, the alien presence on earth in Invasion of the Body Snatchers first takes the form of a rapid proliferation of strange little blossoms that grow “like parasites” – Bloom, it may be worthwhile to note here, also being a common Jewish name –”

    Don’t forget Julius Streicher’s childrens’ book, “The Poisonous Mushroom”

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  13. Noddinghead
    September 7, 2017

    I love the scream-and-point thing in Invasion of the Body Snatchers. Eerie. Seems more pertinent now than it did when the movie came out.

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  14. NoddingHead
    September 7, 2017

    Donald Sutherland at his creepiest…
    Watch “SCREAM!! (Invasion of the Body Snatchers – Donald Sutherland)

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  15. NoddingHead
    September 7, 2017

    Oops I see that scene was already in the post. Anyway, seconded.

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  16. NoddingHead
    September 7, 2017

    I saw HR’s comments on Occidental Observer re: Charlottesville. Very good comments. Must be like talking to a cement wall sometimes. The “conservative” slash “libertarian” ideology is so deeply ingrained with so many. So many are deeply misled by this ideology and they can’t see through the fog. I keep seeing people repeat climate-change-denial talking points straight from neocons and laughing at real science and empirical facts. WN has generally has science and enpirical facts on it’s side. Weird they would take the Neocon-approved fact-denial side regarding climate.

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    • BMan
      September 7, 2017

      climate-change-denial

      Are you insinuating that if someone doesn’t agree with your idea of climate change that they are neocons? Or fooled by neocons?

      I am not as convinced by “science” that it is anthropomorphic. Why? Because these scientists can fuck with data and make us think all sorts of shit that isn’t true.

      Personally, I don’t know, but I sure as hell don’t like the association with neocons just because of this one issue. Besides, I don’t regurgitate their talking points and don’t know what they are.

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      • guest
        September 7, 2017

        Remember that the phrase “climate change” alone is already framing, don’t use it. Same as reproductive health, or dreamers, or love not hate. Because the climate is always a changing, like times. They didn’t have cars, nor beans, during the 250 BC to AD 400 Roman warm period, Hannibal crossed the Alps with elephants because they were ice free, remember, it was warmer with more CO2 in the atmo, 2000 years before the first Model T ever rolled off the production line.

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      • guest
        September 7, 2017

        Why do you think they moved from using “global warming” to using “climate change”? Because global warming is too exact, while change can be everything and nothing. You can see this transition in Obamas speeches. That’s why i mockingly call Barry a hero, because he ended GW, and racism! He should be given another Nobel award!

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    • icareviews
      September 7, 2017

      I’m actually skeptical about anthropogenic climate change, considering “global warming” most likely to be a money-making scheme, with carbon trading and whatnot, considering that Enron was among the first parties to give that business a big push in the 90s. I’ll be the first to admit, though, that my meager scientific education doesn’t credential me to be an authority or even an informed commentator on the subject of the physics involved. Climate change skepticism isn’t strictly a right-wing issue, either, as Alexander Cockburn wrote one of the most scathing skeptic articles on “global warming” that I’ve seen; and Michel Chossudovsky has at least exhibited a dismissive attitude about its importance vis-a-vis other issues.

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  17. Noddinghead
    September 7, 2017

    The main reason I like this site is that it is not married to the “Right” in the whole Right-Left paradigm.. plus you make it clear about 9/11 when you discuss it. I find it frustrating that many “alt right” sites, otherwise seemingly clued in to the JQ, either ignore 9/11 or explicitly agree with the official story.

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    • Sam J.
      September 7, 2017

      9-11 is the acid test and is where the fakes are separated from the truth. If anyone says that it was not the Jews and our gov. that did 9-11 then you know they are clueless or liars.

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      • guest
        September 7, 2017

        No they are conditioned, or brainwashed, if you will.

        Most believe whatever the electronic jew tells them.

        Most people conform, iron curtain or not.

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      • guest
        September 7, 2017

        People float in the zeitgeist and their opinions are shaped by memes they see on the daily show, i was actually surprised how many people really believe that conservatives hate poor people, or want to push granny over the cliff.

        That’s i deficit we have, i could never believe that my enemies hate women, for example, because it’s silly, it’s almost a handicap, being unable to project such.

        hate not love lol

        But the joke is on us.

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  18. james
    September 7, 2017

    Excellent Review.

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  19. NoddingHead
    September 9, 2017

    “Are you insinuating that if someone doesn’t agree with your idea of climate change that they are neocons? Or fooled by neocons?”

    Bman, Iam not insinuating, I am flat-out saying it loud and clear to all who will listen. I don’t think you are a neocon by any stretch, but it is possible you are fooled by them on this issue. There isn’t any legitimate debate on this issue. Global warming is a fact and it is human-caused due to massive burning of carbon-based fossil fuels. Denying this fact is ridiculous.

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    • BMan
      September 9, 2017

      I think your simplified answer is lacking bunches.

      First of all, if I happen to agree with a neocon on this issue, it is NOT because of their influence. It is because I happen to read about this subject from a variety of cources and I come to a different conclusion than you.

      I would never say that you believe because you are a sjw brainwashed by the lies.

      Never would I say anything like that.

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  20. NoddingHead
    September 9, 2017

    White people invented solar and wind and hydroelectric power too so it is ok. I don’t get why WN people feel the need to cling so hard to fossil fuel tech. Why so clingy to the incumbent technology? Why hate energy innovation? The hate-alternative-energy attitude isn’t necessarily a winning strategy for WN. I think it is knee-jerk.

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  21. NoddingHead
    September 9, 2017

    “Liberals support renewable energy, therefore it must be bad!”

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  22. NoddingHead
    September 9, 2017

    “9-11 is the acid test….’

    Totally agree.

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  23. NoddingHead
    September 9, 2017

    9/11 remains the key. Not climate change. All the main WN sites seem terrified to confront 9/11 Or else they explicitly support the BD government-approved conspiracy theory. Thos eeb site a notable exception.

    My guess is they except the gubbmint explanation because it blames brown Muslims and not the more powerful Jews. Easier and safer.

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  24. NoddingHead
    September 9, 2017

    Anyway, Bman i will be heading to south florida this week to help my brother repair shit after Irma. Will fly into Nashville and drive south. Would be good for me to talk to you in person if possible. You seem to be a good person.

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    • BMan
      September 9, 2017

      I’ve got you fooled, too.

      (rubbing hands together maniacally)

      Meeting me would still take you a good bit out of your way and I will have to work west MS next week. I don’t see how it is possible.

      Frankly, and no offense, but it isn’t likely I would meet someone I know from comments section and if I did I assure you I would be very cautious and armed. I’m not as nice as many think, even though I do consider myself a ‘good person’.

      (And this has nothing to do with your global warming stance)

      Maybe we could speak on the phone some day.

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  25. NoddingHead
    September 10, 2017

    That’s ok Bman. I was a little drunk anyway. As it turns out Marco Island in Fla took a direct hit from Irma and it is probably pointless for me to be there. Roads will be a big mess for awhiIe. Would probably enjoy speaking to you on the phone someday. I always enjoy reading your posts.

    I wouldn’t be armed, I had a misdemeanor almost 20 years ago that got categorized as “DV” so I can’t legally posess firearms in my state and won’t risking violating that now.

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  26. NoddingHead
    September 10, 2017

    “I would never say that you believe because you are a sjw brainwashed by the lies.”

    I appreciate that. I see you are a fair and thinking person like most everyone on this site, so even if you did say that i think I would have a fair opportunity here to further clarify my opinion before being judged SJW.

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  27. NoddingHead
    September 10, 2017

    I wouldn’t feel any need to be armed anyway.

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  28. NoddingHead
    September 10, 2017

    I might be judged “sjw” for this opinion also, but I think the whole “being armed” thing just shows a lot of unnecessary fear. Also it shows that too many people watch too many Hollywood westerns. In real life, the better western towns on the frontier confiscated guns at the town limits.

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    • BMan
      September 11, 2017

      My point about guns is that you are nothing more than words on a screen until we meet. I have no idea who you are or what your motive is. Few people offer to drive hours to meet a commenter on a board.

      I won’t get into the wild west and all that (a diversion I suppose).

      But I work in areas that are considered dangerous due to their racial mix. I have been in a few situation that had I not been armed, I may be dead now. Being armed has saved my life more than once.

      Also, I don’t know if you are a sjw but I do know for a fact that I am not a neocon and I have spent decades warning against them. But you think (and splatter bullshit) about being influenced by them over global warming. The epitome of a straw man.

      In that statement alone, then further insistence that it MUST be true and unworthy of argument, that I would consider you a sjw influenced by Al Gore and the sjw army.

      But that couldn’t be it, could it?

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  29. Noddinghead
    September 10, 2017

    Side note: the threat of using a gun to settle minor differences of opinion is not conducive at all to free expression.

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    • icareviews
      September 10, 2017

      Is defenselessness conducive to free expression?

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  30. Noddinghead
    September 11, 2017

    Good point. But it isn’t really “defenselessness” to argue a point not backed up by threat of gun violence. Not a big fan of anarchy.

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  31. Noddinghead
    September 11, 2017

    The Hollywood Wild West was a celebration of a perceived anarchy that never really existed.

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    • icareviews
      September 11, 2017

      Actually, just a few weeks back, I watched a Ronald Reagan western from the 50s, Law and Order, that featured the sort of gun control measure you describe. The 90s movie Tombstone also contains such a plot element.

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  32. Noddinghead
    September 11, 2017

    To spell it out for you, the American West was won by White people who believed in order as usual. Not by lawless thugs. Despite Hollywood make-believe.

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  33. Noddinghead
    September 11, 2017

    The American East was subdued the same way just more brutally and with less regard to PC stuff.

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  34. Noddinghead
    September 11, 2017

    Obviously it is why we can’t ever truly morally criticize Israel vis a vis Palestine without being hypocrites. Can’t be done.

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    • icareviews
      September 11, 2017

      Do we bulldoze Indians’ homes whenever we feel like it or hijack their TVs and pump pornography into their homes? If so, I haven’t heard about it.

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  35. Noddinghead
    September 11, 2017

    OTOH, It should be morally acceptable to all if we embark on a program to repatriate all black people back to Africa.

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  36. NoddingHead
    September 11, 2017

    After all we are a terribly racist country that harms minority folks. Not sure why so many brown 3rd-worlders still insist on coming here. We should allow massive federal expenditures of taxes to get these people out of our hateful country immediately.

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  37. NoddingHead
    September 12, 2017

    “Do we bulldoze Indians’ homes whenever we feel like it or hijack their TVs and pump pornography into their homes? If so, I haven’t heard about it.”

    We did far worse than that before bulldozers and TVs were invented. Not the porn though. That came about approximately 80 years after the last big Indian battles. That is used to mainly to ruin us white people.

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    • icareviews
      September 13, 2017

      “before bulldozers and TVs were invented.”

      In other words, before most of us here were around. I’ve never done a damn thing to oppress an Indian, nor have most American whites. Their lives on reservations are far preferable to the existence of the Palestinians still trying to eke out their lives in Israel’s killbox.

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  38. NoddingHead
    September 12, 2017

    “Actually, just a few weeks back, I watched a Ronald Reagan western from the 50s, Law and Order, that featured the sort of gun control measure you describe. The 90s movie Tombstone also contains such a plot element.”

    It did. Tombstone is a great movie, I think. I will look for Law and Order.

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  39. NoddingHead
    September 12, 2017

    Obviously government was instrumental in taking over North America from the natives. Army cavalry, Sheridan, Sherman, etc. In no way was the winning of the West a “libertarian” act. The gigantic land subsidy for the railroads did it more than anything wlse, probably. Not to mention the Homestead Act and the Mining Law of 1872.

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  40. NoddingHead
    September 12, 2017

    On another note, I am astonished by how many Jews were involved at top levels in the CSA.

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  41. NoddingHead
    September 12, 2017

    Judah Benjamin comws first to mind. Then he did very well as a lawyer in the UK after his side lost the US Civil War. Eye-opener….

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  42. NoddingHead
    September 13, 2017

    My conspiracy-theory ass thinks he was a well-protected Rothchilds agent. His way back to London was secure. A lot of other CSA top people didn’t have it so good….

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  43. NoddingHead
    September 13, 2017

    Jews like slavery of any kind as long as they benefit. We now have wage-slavery and especially debt-slavery. Better than chattel slavery I guess. Morally.

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  44. NoddingHead
    September 13, 2017

    Bolshevik slavery got a bad reputarion worldwide thank God, and it was taken off the table.. Debt-slavery has become their main money-maker now. Sneakier.

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  45. NoddingHead
    September 16, 2017

    “Their lives on reservations are far preferable to the existence of the Palestinians still trying to eke out their lives in Israel’s killbox.”

    I’m not too sure about that. Probably true in the materialist view. But American Indian tribes are 100 percent defeated and have been for over 100 years, whereas Palestinians and other Arabs still cling to some hope and largely have an intact culture. They are still fighting. American Indians are no longer fighting. Not really.

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  46. NoddingHead
    September 16, 2017

    I am a South Dakota native white old enough to have directly benefited from the suppression of American Indians. But I also never have done a damn thing to directly harm any of them. I only remember stories about drunk Indians walking into our 1880s railroad town and the local dogs going nuts barking. Hearing stories about fights in a neighboring reservation town at football games etc.

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  47. NoddingHead
    September 16, 2017

    The big difference is white culture, while dominant, didn’t hate the Indians for being Indians. We made reservations and funded them. We tried to do right by them even while clearly taking over their lands and destroying their primitive way of life. Obviously it is a quite different situation in Israel/Palestine and the rest of lands where Jews have or had a large presence, like in Russia in the early 20th century and in the current USA.

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    • icareviews
      September 16, 2017

      Yes, this was my point. As a race, we tend to be more gracious conquerors after things have settled down. Moreover, others tend to lack this necessity we have for reflection on our ancestors’ ugly deeds. I seriously doubt if Mongolian schoolchildren are urged to flagellate themselves over the fact that their forebears raped and terrorized their way as far as Europe. We have to learn not to look back and doubt ourselves when it doesn’t behoove us to do so.

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  48. NoddingHead
    September 19, 2017

    Excellent points.

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  49. NoddingHead
    September 19, 2017

    I can definitely see how our natural altruism and empathy is used against us by our enemies.

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  50. NoddingHead
    September 19, 2017

    Was funny, I turned on my TV yesterday and the very end of Body Snatchers was on. Total coincidence.

    https://goo.gl/images/IwatPC

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