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Alt Right Documentation Project (DRAFT)

RamZPaul has put out a video going through some of the history of the “Alt Right” of the last few years. While there are some things in this video I personally disagree with quite strongly, I remember quite a few incidents that RamZPaul points out here, and I’d like help getting some of this on the record, documented with links preferably, for perhaps a permanent reference page on AryanSkynet to set the record straight.

This is a DRAFT, mostly from memory, and I invite corrections, additions, and context. If successful, this article will become a permanent reference to the events of the last few years and some of the personalities and connections of the “Alt Right.”

1. While the call for an “alternative right” originally came from the “conservative” Jew Paul Gottfriend, Richard Spencer’s mentor, Spencer started using the term for his original blog, AlternativeRight.com, a few years ago. Within a year or so, Spencer broke with his fellow AlternativeRight.com bloggers, Colin Lidell and Andy Nowicki, apparently over an “anti-Holocaust remembrance” article by Lidell. Spencer shut down the domain but Lidell and Nowicki kept blogging at alternative-right.blogspot.com. Spencer then joined the National Policy Institute and started RADIXJournal.com

2. The term “alt right” was used informally by a number of different groups for a few years, but it was the Breitbart.com blogger “Milo” that introduced the term to “normies” in an article where he interviews RamZPaul. RamZPaul had used the term to describe a “movement” or “tendency” at an AmRen conference in (I think) 2013 or 2014. RamZPaul included quite a bit of “NRx” Moldbuggery in his description of this new tendency.

3. Steve Bannon, the editor of Breitbart.com and now one of Trump’s most important advisors, started using the term “Alt Right” and called Breitbart.com the “center of the Alt Right” early in the campaign.

4. The “14/88” “neo-Nazi” types like Andrew Anglin and the Daily Stormer were opposed to the term “Alt Right” and were generally extremely hostile to Richard Spencer. Spencer was constantly attacked for being a “cuck” or “run by Jews.” During the infamous 2015 NPI conference, when Matt Heimbach was disinvited due to his “undisciplined appearances in the media” Heimbach affiliated groups like Trad Youth began a campaign against Spencer and NPI – assisted by Anglin, Weev, and the Daily Stormer – saying that Spencer was “controlled” by a “gay mafia” and that “Christians” were being “banned” from NPI due to their “opposition to homosexuality.”

Point: Matt Parrott complained bitterly that he and Heimbach had been “cut off financially.” Apparently, some group, presumably affiliated with NPI (perhaps the William Regnery group, had been funding Heimbach, Parrott, and Trad Youth, who despite appearing to be impoverished volunteers, nevertheless had the resources to travel around the country on a regular basis staging stunts for the media.

5. When Hillary Clinton used the term “Alt Right” in a speech to attack Trump, Bannon, and Breitbart.com, all of a sudden Richard Spencer became a media celebrity. He once again embraced the term “Alt Right” and started making plans for a new group.

6. During the Trump campaign, groups such as the Israeli Zionist front Rebel Media, headed by the Jew Ezra Levy, assisted by various youtube celebrities like Mike Cernovich, began attempting to use the term “Alt Right” to describe some sort of watered down, not pro-white tendency that liked Trump, was against “political correctness” and opposed Islam because it was “hostile to gays.” Branded the “Alt Lite” by some, these people began staging various media stunts such as “Twinks for Trump” and “Free Speech” rallies and disrupting Manhattan theaters by screaming something bizarre about “gerbils.”

7. The Zionist “Alt Lite” run by Rebel Media and the “Alt Right” run by Richard Spencer began fueding with each other and this feud continues to this day. The “Alt Lite” has essentially given up the term “Alt Right” and have started calling themselves the “New Right.”

8. Immediately after Trump won, NPI staged their infamous 2016 conference. Despite the fact that Richard Spencer and The Atlantic’s editor David Frum had been attacking each other in the media for nearly a decade, Spencer invited the Atlantic to the NPI conference to “document the event.” Predictably, the Atlantic ran a notorious hit piece trying to position NPI as some sort of “Nazi rally.” The Atlantic was assisted in this hit piece by five people who staged “Hailgate” for the cameras: two Jews, the Asian porn star Tila Tequila, and unknown NPI participant, and …

9. Mike Enoch of TheRightStuff.biz. Within a few months of “Hailgate” Enoch was “doxxed” by some group – a group likely including Rebel Media, Mike Cernovich, and the Antifa. Enoch was discovered to be married to a Jewish woman who was an anti-white and pro-transsexual activists. Enoch’s wife was not just aware of TheRightStuff.biz, but was in fact a participant in TheRightStuff.biz, a part of the show and occasionally doing bits with her husband. Later, Enoch’s mother was outed by Rebel Media as being a fundraiser for Hillary Clinton and apparently connected to the Democratic party.

10. After the Atlantic hit piece, Donald Trump and Steve Bannon denounced Richard Spencer, NPI, and much of the “Alt Right,” at least the parts that had anything to do with explicit White identity. Hailgate provided an opportunity for Trump and Bannon to “pivot to the center” and distance themselves from the groups the media were attempting to hang around their necks like an albatross.

11. Anglin and the Daily Stormer, after two or so years of attacking Spencer, NPI, and the Alt Right, turned on a dime and declared themselves to be “Alt Right” at some point during the Trump campaign, and came out strongly for Spencer after “Hailgate.” Spencer immediately returned the favor and begane doing radio appearances with Anglin. Anglin, for his part, declared that he was an “advisor” to Spencer and that Spencer was a “Nazi” but was still to “soft on the homosexuals.”

12. Daily Stormer celebrities such as Azzmodor began tailing Spencer’s public speaking events, giving performances to the media complete with “Hitler salutes” and diatribes about “the Holocaust.”

13. A few months ago, Jason Kessler, an Occupy Wall Street activist and liberal Democrat turned “Alt Right,” began organizing the “Unite the Right” rally, which was to include Richard Spencer, Mike Enoch, and even Matt Heimbach. Heimbach and Spencer had “made up” at some point and Spencer thanked Trad Youth for providing “muscle” to help fight the Antifa at one of his earlier events.

14. For his part, Matt Heimbach has spent the last few years bridging the gap between the “mainstream Alt Right” and fringe groups like the “National Socialist Movement” of Jeff Schoep and various “Ku Klux Klan” organizations. Both the NSM – which are stereotypical “Hollywood Nazis” complete with uniforms and swastika flags – and the Ku Klux Klan – were well represented at the “United the Right” rally and in fact the mainstream media attempted to portray the entire Unite the Right rally as consisting entirely of “neo-Nazis” and “Ku Klux Klans.”

15. Immediately in the aftermath of the Charlottesville rally, while everyone was focused on the Daily Stormer being kicked off of various internet platforms and having their domain “confiscated,” a number of mainstream pro-white groups, like VDare.com, were being “deplatformed.” The deplatforming was being excused by appealing to the “violence at the Charlottesville neo-Nazi KKK” rally and via guilt-by-association with the Daily Stormer, who had immediately ran a hit piece against the woman who was killed after the march.

Readers are invited to correct my timeline, correct my mistakes, clarify and contextualize events, and especially to provide links and documentation for the various personalities and groups involved.

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134 comments on “Alt Right Documentation Project (DRAFT)

  1. uttercontempt
    August 17, 2017

    Look bro, what people in your movement need to be working on is not ways to maneuver themselves into mainstream coverage, it’s an alt-right streaming video service a la Netflix, with original programming. If enough people subscribe to that service then hosting providers are going to be sucked in by default, if the financing is there and the talent to make it happen, the minority of right-leaning people in showbiz will gravitate. As we say in Israel, stop looking for a way through and start looking for a way around.

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  3. guest
    August 17, 2017

    Any thoughts on how this will play out in the longrun?
    There is now open racial animosity towards whites.
    The media is in full war time propaganda mode.

    Even cuckservaties are getting death threats.

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    • Hipster Racist
      August 17, 2017

      @guest

      If the Democrats fail to make significant gains in the mid term elections, the Democratic party and the left will start to discipline their radical fringe, the Antifa and the Berniebros and Black Lives Matter.

      If the Republicans lose in the mid-term elections, Conservative Inc. will come down hard on pro-whites and double down on the Hispandering.

      If Trump manages to keep Congress for the GOP and get in a few of his guys, we could see some really good developments, especially, a crackdown on Antifa types with some high-profile jailings and the like. The NRA made a commercial recently that telegraphs what the Republicans have in mind for a campaign and it threw the Democrats into a panic. FOX News just made a “documentary” on Antifa that is similar.

      Whatever the hell Spencer and his new sidekick Heimbach are attempting to do, we saw that the Kosher types in Rebel Media, Cernovich, Breitbart, and Milo, attempted to co-opt the pro-white movement and turn it into a squishy “color blind cultural libertarian pro-Trump” thing that fanatically supports the apartheid regime of Jew bigotry in Zionist-occupied Palestine and hates Muslim because they sometimes support Palestine while pretending to hate Muslims because they are mean to gays.

      That co-option did not work, and is not working. The “Alt Lite,” such as it is, is a joke with no organic base at all. It appeals to neither traditional conservatives nor young libertarian types. There is a DESPERATE attempt to put the White Genie back in the bottle, but identity politics is here to stay.

      If Spencer and his buddy Heimbach try to subvert pro-White identity with their (((Daily Stormer))) clown act, that is not going to work either. There is a huge group of conservative and right-leaning types that are growing more and more explicitly pro-White that simply have zero tolerance for kiddie trolls posting Hitler anime cats, much less FBI funded groups like NSM.

      Since Spencer has given up his leadership role of a serious pro-White movement, someone WILL step up and take his place – I suspect within a year, as a matter of fact.

      Eventually the Fa & Antifa will run out of steam as their footsoldiers have to start paying the bills again. At the end of the day, Charlottesville was a lot of sound and fury, signyfing nothing.

      There is a GOOD case to be made that the anti-Trump Republicans and the McAullife Democrats in Virginia set the Charlottesville thing up, hoping for their to be death and violence, to use against Trump. We see that by how McCain, Romney, and Rubio all came out with co-ordinated talking points to defend Antifa and attack Trump.

      Trump headed this off with his rather amazing press conference the other day.

      Stupid street theater doesn’t change anything, it’s nothing but a media stunt and a show of force. The facts on the ground are very, VERY clear: the left can bring 10s of thousands “to muh streets” for everything from a Pussy Hat parade to an anti-Trump rally. White Nationalists like Spencer top out at maybe 1,000 people, at most.

      But of course “protests” are meaningless. I remember the protests against the Iraq War – BEFORE it started. The largest mass protests in the entire HISTORY of the human race, all around the USA, Canada, Europe and even elsewhere.

      It didn’t do jack shit because showing up in “muh streets” is a meaningless temper tantrum. It’s the lowest form of organization. The anti-war types had huge rallies; the Republicans had the voting machines and the Jew media (who supported the neo-con Bushites and the war, of course) and the “silent majority on their side.

      Life will go on, no revolution, no major changes, slow evolution. But Race Realism is here to stay, White Identity is here to say, and they simply cannot shut down the internet, which means pro-white speech isn’t going anywhere.

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      • indravaruna
        August 17, 2017

        “It didn’t do jack shit because showing up in “muh streets” is a meaningless temper tantrum. It’s the lowest form of organization. The anti-war types had huge rallies; the Republicans had the voting machines and the Jew media (who supported the neo-con Bushites and the war, of course) and the “silent majority on their side.”

        That’s why I find funny these confrontations between street protesters, its like rival soccer supporters in South America clashing in the streets for no good reason, the ruling class laugh at this, when these antifa types will attack the military-industrial-complex, Wall Street, Neocons,..?

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  4. icareviews
    August 17, 2017

    Reblogged this on icareviews.

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  5. icareviews
    August 17, 2017

    There was a problem with the rally from its inception, with the whole “Unite the Right” theme. That in itself guaranteed its failure. We don’t want to be united with every aspect of “the right”. In fact, most of it needs to be disavowed, from the GOP to Matt Heimbach. “Clarify the Right” would have been a better name for the rally, if they insist on characterizing white identity politics as “right” in orientation.

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    • Hipster Racist
      August 17, 2017

      @icareviews

      All you have to do is look at the original poster for the event and the list of names. Kessler – some guy, apparently a progressive Democrat Occupy Wall Street type, Matt Heimbach and Mike Enoch.

      It wasn’t “Unite the Right” it was “Unite a handful of internet celebrities that have had a hard go of it in the last few months led by some shady guy named Kessler no one has ever heard of.”

      Terry McAullife, the Governor of Viriginia (I’ve met the man personally) and likely Presidential candidate, apparently ordered the police to stand down while they sicced Antifa on them, hoping for a shooting or two so they could use it against Trump – AND they had the prior cooperation of the entire anti-Trump Republican establishment, McCain, Romney, and Rubio.

      To their credit – Spencer’s crowd did NOT take the bait, and Trump stepped in at just the right time to destroy the media narrative. I have to admit I was astonished at how well Trump pulled it off.

      I wouldn’t touch Spencer or his crowd with a ten foot pole at this point – it’s clearly being handled by some shady people, and maybe Spencer is that shady person.

      But I’m not at all worried about them “making us look bad” at this point – it’s gone way, way beyond that now. Spencer can play footsie with Antifa all he wants, it makes pro-White people look like normal moderates in comparison.

      Good. This is white-pilling for me. White people are winning.

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      • icareviews
        August 17, 2017

        I was trying to find the code name of that mysterious financial benefactor of The Daily Stormer who allegedly “wasn’t even white”. He had a name taken from some WW2 novel. It was “Major” something, I think.

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      • Hipster Racist
        August 17, 2017

        Colonel Grubman or something.

        His alleged rape victim wrote me two emails clarifying the situation, but I have chosen to not escalate the situation.

        It should be obvious to anyone with two brain cells to rub together that the (((Daily Stormer))) is an ADL/SPLC/FBI funded operation and it’s beyond question that “Weev” made a deal with Federal Prosecutors to get out of prison early.

        I don’t think the readers of Aryan Skynet need it spelled out for them.

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      • Hipster Racist
        August 17, 2017

        She described him as possibly “North African.”

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      • Rod Horner
        August 18, 2017

        “Spencer can play footsie with Antifa all he wants, it makes pro-White people look like normal moderates in comparison.”

        Incidentally, this is the exact argument that Spencer and Enoch have been pushing for a while now. He claims to be stretching the Overton Window so moderate white nationalism can become mainstream.

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      • McZOG
        August 26, 2017

        I was trying to find the code name of that mysterious financial benefactor of The Daily Stormer who allegedly “wasn’t even white”. He had a name taken from some WW2 novel. It was “Major” something, I think.

        Colonel Gunter Brumm.

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    • ct
      August 17, 2017

      The accused/alleged rapist was called “colonel gunter brumm” I think. He was the guy giving ten thousand dollars to the stormer told a source. And he is half greek half german according to source.

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    • McZOG
      August 30, 2017

      if they insist on characterizing white identity politics as “right” in orientation.

      That’s a very strange remark, since white identity politics has always been a blatant Republican Party shill operation.

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      • Hipster Racist
        August 30, 2017

        @McZOG

        The Republican party has been the MAJOR force opposing white identity politics for 100 years.

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  6. Boopedybop
    August 17, 2017

    I will never forget the day of the gerbils.

    It truly was a magnificent sight to behold.

    YOU ARE ALL GERBILS!!!!!!

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  7. bob saffron
    August 17, 2017

    Textbook Pyrrhic victory.

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  8. ct
    August 17, 2017

    What do you guys make of the picture of Spencer with his wife and Barbara Bush? Has Spencer ever said a word about this? Is it a montage?
    And is the Regnery group behind NPI and a few other alt right outlets owned by a CIA family guy?

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    • Hipster Racist
      August 17, 2017

      @ct

      I suspect the picture is authentic, and it shows exactly what it appears to show: Richard Spencer and his wife at a party, presumably a Republican fundraiser, with Laura Bush.

      Considering what we know of Spencer’s background, it’s not in the least bit surprising, nor is it at all suspicious. Spencer went to college and was friends with Stephen Miller, now Trump’s Jewish speechwriter. Spencer comes from a wealthy establishment family, the exact type that go to GOP fundraisers. Spencer has worked for Pat Buchanan’s magazine The American Conservative, Taki’s magazine (Taki is a wealthy conservative oligarch) and has hobnobbed with various Washington elites.

      There are likely pictures of me floating around with various politicians, mostly Democrats including some rather left wing Democrats. If you are into that sort of thing, it’s really no big deal to get your picture taken with a politician. Back in the bad old days post-911, I went to lots of Democratic party fundraisers. I got to meet General Wesley Clark more than once and it cost me about a thousand bucks altogether.

      I met now Virginia Governor Terry McAullife once and it cost me $200. Incidentally, McAullife came across to me as the consummate slimy politician without a sincere bone in his body. I specifically remember him affecting an utterly fake “concerned” look on his face when my wife accosted him about a specific issue relating to 9/11.

      I’ve already written a fictionalized account of that meeting and it will appear in my 9/11 novel in 2021.

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      • McZOG
        September 3, 2017

        I’ve already written a fictionalized account of that meeting and it will appear in my 9/11 novel in 2021.

        A few years ago you said your 9/11 novel would be published in 2015. Now you’re saying 2021. Next year it will be 2025.

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    • Hipster Racist
      August 17, 2017

      @ct

      And is the Regnery group behind NPI and a few other alt right outlets owned by a CIA family guy?

      McZOG is convinced that Regnery is CIA, but he offers no evidence for it. Although it would not be in the least bit surprising if Regnery the father was OSS back in the day, nor would it be particularly surprising if Regnery Jr. is former CIA.

      That’s just how the system operates. That does NOT mean that Regnery isn’t sincere. Look – the Blacks are all convinced that the CIA is literally just the “KKK in three piece suits” and left wing Jews like Noam Chomsky (himself an obvious CIA asset, by the way, if not Mossad) tell the left that the CIA is “right wing” and works to spread White Supremacy around the globe.

      Of course the reality is that the OSS was set up by … FDR, a pro-Communist, pro-Soviet Democrat … and British intelligence, also quite pro-Communist, and the entire social “left” of the latter half of the 20th century, from feminism to sexual liberation to the drug culture of the 1960s, was managed by the CIA.

      If you grew up in Washington DC chances are you’ve met or gone to school with someone connected to the CIA. Most people in the CIA are clerks, clock punchers, and librarians. 99.99% of CIA employees are nothing even close to James Bond – that’s Hollywood, not real life.

      You want to find what the average CIA asset is like, go to youtube and watch Susan Lindaer’s videos.

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    • Rod Horner
      August 18, 2017

      He has addressed the picture and very briefly mentioned the context. It’s in one of his earlier appearances on a TRS podcast (probably The Daily Shoah). I couldn’t tell you off the top of my head what he said about the Bush connection, but as I recall the young lady in the photo is his ex-wife who jumped shipped with a tidy alimony from his trust fund.

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      • Hipster Racist
        August 18, 2017

        @Rod Horner

        According to everything I’ve read, that is his current wife, with whom he has a daughter, and they are still married, not officially “separated” although she and their daughter apparently don’t live in the USA anymore.

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    • McZOG
      August 26, 2017

      And is the Regnery group behind NPI and a few other alt right outlets owned by a CIA family guy?

      Yes. In fact, every important figure of the white nationalist movement works directly for William Regnery II, with the exception of David Duke, Don Black, and William Johnson. But these three men have their own independent connections to the C.I.A. anyway, so it’s a moot point.

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      • Hipster Racist
        August 26, 2017

        @McZOG

        Another way to put that would be William Regnery II is the only wealthy person that has ever funded anything pro-White and his father – or uncle – may – or may not – have been in the original OSS and no one has provided any conclusive evidence.

        Perhaps more importantly, every important figure in every American social movement of any kind can be “connected” to the CIA by Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon. After all, that is what the intel community does.

        In fact, virtually everyone in the country can be connected to the CIA by Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon. Certainly, anyone in the Washington DC area can been easily connected to the Defense establishment via just a few steps because it’s the major employer in the area

        If your standard is, “a janitor working for a janitor company that may have the contract to clean the offices at Northrop Grumman is ‘connected’ to the intelligence community” – you’ve pretty much labelled anyone and everyone as a “spy” of some kind.

        It would be like saying that parking attendant at a lot in Manhattan is “working for international bankers.” We’re all servants to the ruling class in one way or another.

        Maybe, just maybe, you could find a corn farmer in Iowa that isn’t, but he’d be essentially an employee of Monsanto, which is just as conspiracy fueling. “Farmer Billy works for the conspiracy poisoning us with GMOs!”

        Play the game with Big Pharma and the bathroom attendant at any hospital in the country is “connected to the pharmaceutical companies.”

        Most importantly, let’s say that Regnery is, in fact, a current CIA agent. What is the goal? Why would the CIA be funding the White Nationalist movement? Are Black Lives Matter correct, the entire system is controlled by White Supremacists at the top? “Cops and the Klan go hand in hand!”

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      • McZOG
        August 26, 2017

        Are Black Lives Matter correct, the entire system is controlled by White Supremacists at the top?

        Indeed, the entire “system” is controlled by Jews at the top.

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      • Hipster Racist
        August 26, 2017

        I’m starting to believe that McZOG is a Farakkan type. He’s not pro-White, he’s anti-Jew. A Hotep, perhaps?

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      • McZOG
        August 27, 2017

        He’s not pro-White, he’s anti-Jew.

        Jews are white, and literally every single person on earth agrees with that statement, except for a few hundred C.I.A. led American cranks.

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      • Hipster Racist
        August 27, 2017

        @McZOG

        You’re Anti-White & Anti-Jew. You aren’t White, I assume a hotep type.

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  9. guest
    August 17, 2017

    Alt-Right’s Richard Spencer handled by deep state family by akamaitree

    Where he also commented today:

    “Yeah everything about Charlottesville is supremely shady. The main organizer Jason Kessler has a pretty lengthy arrest and conviction record and was an Obama & Occupy Wall Street supporter only a few months before he founded the nonprofit behind Unite the Right. The legal team behind Unite the Right features a couple shady lawyers who’ve primarily worked revenge porn cases in the past (one of them has an expunged criminal record too) and an Intercollegiate Studies Institute (John Birch network) guy.

    The Charlottesville PD received a stand down order and effectively allowed violence to ensue. There were reportedly not a few FBI informants involved in inciting violence on both sides. There have been rumors circulating for years that Matt Heimbach is an FBI informant.”

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    • Hipster Racist
      August 17, 2017

      Matt Heimbach travels around the country holding meetings with neo-Nazis, the Ku Klux Klan, skinheads, and the international representatives of right wing groups like Greece’s Golden Dawn.

      But he is supposed to be just some dude living in a trailer in Kansas that can’t even get a job because he’s so oppressed.

      I mean, come on, this ain’t rocket science. Matt Heimbach is a TV star, he even shows up and starts fights at Trump rallies and the mainstream media always has their cameras ready to go for all of his events. He’s been the star of numerous network television specials and he’s been declared “the future of White Nationalism” by the people who run the movement, the Southern Poverty Law Center.

      But you know, Matt Heimbach is “just folks.”

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      • Rod Horner
        August 18, 2017

        You forgot to mention his obligatory recently-found faith in the Orthodox Church. What good is a star bogeyman if you don’t also wrap him in the religion of the eternal slavic enemy?

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      • McZOG
        August 26, 2017

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  10. bob saffron
    August 17, 2017

    @HR: Which points raised by RamZPaul do you not agree with?

    (I like “white nationalism” because it clearly spells out the objective. I don’t see any need to preface it with support for other ethnic nationalisms, unnecessarily apologetic and insufficiently self-referential).

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    • Hipster Racist
      August 17, 2017

      @Bob Saffron

      I am fine with the term “White Nationalist” and I wish RamZPaul wouldn’t shy away from it. “Nationalism for all” of course means “White nationalist.”

      I also think he’s being way too black pilled about freedom of speech. You can be pro-Trump all you want because Donald Trump is the President of the United States of America, and, as the left tells us, to be pro-Trump is to be a “White Nationalist.”

      Waving around a swastika flag and talking about Hitler means you are either a) really stupid or b) an FBI plant and likely a Jew. But wearing a “Make America Great Again” hat is perfectly mainstream.

      The ADL says that saying “American First” makes you an “anti-semite” but that isn’t going to stop anyone from saying “America First” now is it?

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      • guest
        August 18, 2017

        The point is not if we are fine with it, the term is burned:

        “White nationalism is a stupid term, it conjures images in the minds of normal people that are unpleasant, if you want people to think you’re a skin head or nazi, start talking about white nationalism, because that’s what they’re gonna think about.” – The Z Man on his podcast today

        He goes on further:

        “We have to think this a cultural movement, a cultural movement that is starting today, it’s not a continuation of old ideas, not going back to old ideas, it’s not going back to 1950 and starting over, replay the game with a different result, that’s not gonna work, it’s not possible and it’s not gonna work.There has to be to some degree a break from the past, and that means when a David Duke shows up, and hangs around, that’s just dumb, because in the minds of 99% of the people, David Duke is a clown, there’s no changing that, he calling himself doctor doesn’t help, that makes him look even more clownish. It may be unfair, but to most people David Duke is a bozo and you gonna get judged by the company you keep. It’s not fair, but life is unfair.”

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      • Hipster Racist
        August 18, 2017

        @guest

        Only problem is, change the label to whatever you want and they are going to demonize that label too.

        I’m not hung up on labels but if it doesn’t include the word “white” then it’s pointless. If it isn’t about race – the white race – then we are all wasting our time and I may as well tell young men to find a Jewess with big khazar milkers so at least their grandchildren will have a chance. Only we can be us and if we can’t be “pro-white” then there is no point to any of this.

        I want the day to come when we can just start calling ourselves “Americans” again and everyone knows it means “the posterity of the Founding Fathers.”

        How about “pro-White.”

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      • Sam J.
        August 19, 2017

        “…Only we can be us and if we can’t be “pro-white” then there is no point to any of this…”

        Vast agreement. At some point you have to be willing to be called names if your pro-White or at least as long as the Jews run things. If every time they called someone a Nazi or KKK everyone went,”So they call everyone that”, then a lot of it would stop.

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      • Hipster Racist
        August 19, 2017

        @Sam J

        The Bob Whitaker Mantra people have this right. When they call you a “racist” you just say, “you’re just saying that because I’m white, you don’t call anyone else that. Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.”

        Works every time.

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      • McZOG
        August 26, 2017

        Bob Whitaker, another C.I.A. spook.

        Literally every single “leader” of the white nationalist movement is a U.S. Govt. intelligence agent.

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      • Hipster Racist
        August 26, 2017

        @McZOG

        Why would the CIA hire Bob Whitaker to create the most effective pro-white talking points in a generation?

        If what you say is true, the CIA is on our side. That’s great news!

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  11. presbyterianrevival
    August 18, 2017

    This is a really good idea.

    I trolled TRS and RADIX for a couple years and made note of the connections between the various e-celebs. Peinovich is the lynch-pin of the entire operation, and his ADL wife’s recital of that “dindu” poem is iron-clad proof of malicious intent.

    A lot of naive young guys got sucked into these honeypots and their lives are going to be ruined as a result. Some of them may even be killed. One of TRS’ tactics was to encourage real life meetups which required personal identification details for “extreme vetting”. The gravity of the consequences which their victims are now facing demands a thorough examination of ALL the parties involved.

    Spencer is guilty as hell. Even without his cozy relationship with Peinovich, his anti-American/Duginist faggotry is unforgiveable. He’s a traitor, clap ‘im in irons. Yarvin, Anglin and Auernheimer(sp?) were intimately involved with TRS from the beginning. Deport ’em all. There was a podcast called “Fash the Nation”(barf) with a still anonymous guy, “McFeels”, who claimed to be highly connected within the GOP. We need to find out who this person really is.

    That’s the real crux of the whole thing: the israeli faction of the GOP is on the ropes thanks to the work of the Liberty caucus. You won’t hear about it on TV, but that’s what they’re chimping out about. They’re desperately trying to do away with the Bill of Rights in a vain attempt to hold on to power.

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    • Hipster Racist
      August 18, 2017

      One of TRS’ tactics was to encourage real life meetups which required personal identification details for “extreme vetting”.

      Yes, I remember reading about this. Weren’t they even asking people to send scans of the driver’s licenses to get access to a “private forum?”

      Enoch and his Jewess wife were yukking it up on the Upper West Side of Manhattan while their fan clubs of suburban white boys in flyover country were doxing themselves to them and sending in shekels.

      When Enoch was outed – he wasn’t shunned from the movement – he was PROMOTED. In fact, Richard Spencer and Greg Johnson actually fought over him – and Johnson even admitted that he had known about Enoch’s wife for a year but kept it a secret. This is all the more surprising coming from Johnson who has always said race and ethnicity overrule ideology and has never waved on the Jewish question.

      As for Andrew Anglin and Weev, they could not tell their fan base of suckers that they knew all along, so Anglin ran a number of articles about how he was angry and disappointed and how he “understands” if people aren’t going to accept Enoch anymore … while continuing to go along as if nothing happened.

      This is what I mean when I say it doesn’t really matter how many times these e-celebs are “outed” – there are enough online astroturfers to give them the illusion of a “base” at least online.

      But in real life, in reality, the only one that can bring out more than a dozen people is Richard Spencer – and for that he has needed help from people like Kessler who aren’t even “right wing” or apparently pro-white in any significant way.

      I’m not exactly sure about the Berkeley protests, they had a lot of people but Spencer nor any of the Heimbach crew were actually there – it seemed to be an Alt Lite affair plus Nathan Damigo’s group.

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      • presbyterianrevival
        August 18, 2017

        Here’s Kessler, another jew spy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXJBsLpuf_M

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      • Rod Horner
        August 18, 2017

        I think you’re mistaken about the influence of Spencer over and beyond TRS. They are his loudest megaphone and if their download numbers are any indicator, they’re reaching a lot more people than NPI or AltRight.com.

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    • Hipster Racist
      August 18, 2017

      I wish you were correct about the Liberty Caucus, but I see zero evidence that you are doing anything but spinning a fantasy. The Liberty Caucus of the GOP is powerless, a fringe group of yahoos talking about legalizing weed and celebrity porn stars. The Israeli faction on the ropes due to them?

      Please, don’t insult our intelligence.

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      • presbyterianrevival
        August 18, 2017

        Look into it a little bit. You’ll find that everything the “altright” told you about libertarianism and the GOP is a lie.

        The “alt-right” actually started back in 2012 as a counter to the Ron Paul candidacy. Trump’s handler’s tried to get him to run then, even setting up some corny debate, but they couldn’t get it off the ground. The israeli asset, Reince Preibus, had to ram through rule 40b to thwart the Paul nomination, the same rule which delivered the nom to Trump in 2016. When we find out who “McFeels” is, the real conflict will become more obvious.

        You’ll notice that the “altright” markets itself as post-libertarian. Peinovich certainly spends plenty of time polishing that turd. Jared Taylor, another spy, published a piece calling Rand Paul “traitor of the year” – something about Mexicans, **yawn**. Look how salty they are about Paul’s work with Kamala Harris. lol

        Don’t fall for “altright” jew tricks. Punching down is bad form and accomplishes nothing. End the Fed. End the israeli-style police state. No War. Free Palestine. Defend the Bill of Rights. Everything else is a trick and a distraction.

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      • Hipster Racist
        August 18, 2017

        The Liberty Caucus is a joke. You’re arguing meaningless ideologies. Ron Paul resigned, Rand Paul has no influence on anything, there is no grassroots support for the Liberty Caucus – it’s a bunch of “legalize weed” idiots and autistic ideologues who read Ayn Rand in high school.

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      • Hipster Racist
        August 18, 2017

        Also, you are just insulting everyone’s intelligence – as if everyone reading had never heard of libertarianism until the Alt Right showed up – the exact opposite is true.

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      • bob saffron
        August 19, 2017

        Randianism was never more that a well-financed and promoted neo-con (Jewish) personality cult. O’Reilly gets to play the dove:

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    • bob saffron
      August 19, 2017

      I enjoy “Fash the Nation”. The hosts were apparently not aware of Enoch’s Jewish wife. After that blew up, the show disappeared until the Syria bombing. “McFeels” has worked on Republican campaigns and knows people in the GOP galaxy, I would have thought this a positive. I don’t recall any “pool party” recruitment by these guys. (I don’t think they’d even met Enoch until way past his outing and subsequent rehabilitation). “Rebel Yell” (https://identitydixie.com/) was great, too.

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  12. Russia
    August 18, 2017

    Unwavering support for Russia and Vladimir Putin’s geopolitical goals is the only thing this grouping has continually had in common over the years despite constant shifting positions, falling outs, etc.. Accordingly, I wouldn’t rule out the possibility that Russian operatives have a hand in their antics somewhere. Spencer, Anglin, and Heimbach have been attempting to convince pro-white Americans that they have a stake in Russia’s geo-political conflicts for years now, even though the Russian Federation’s anti-whiteism, philosemitism, Islamphilia and geo-political support for South African genocidalists is well documented.

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    • Hipster Racist
      August 18, 2017

      Good point about Russia. The only time the Alt Right ever criticized Trump is when he bombed Russia’s ally Syria. Heimbach was doing all sort of weird shit, dressing up like a Russia and the like, years ago, long before Trump.

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      • icareviews
        August 19, 2017

        Think about it, though. If you were a Russian intelligence handler operating a character like Heimbach (how this would benefit Russia, I don’t know), would you really want your agent going around LARPing as a Russian Orthodox Christian and going out of his way to express sympathy for Russia while acting clownishly all the while?

        This, by the way, is the conspiracy theory that Glenn Beck is promoting: Heimbach and everybody else at Unite the Right was a Duginist agent sowing unconstitutional chaos in America. Dugin is “the Grand Wizard behind everything,” according to him. How does having a bunch of ostensibly Putinist goofballs make light of a woman being killed by a car help to further the purposes of Vladimir Putin?

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      • Hipster Racist
        August 19, 2017

        I certainly don’t think that Heimbach is working for the Russians or anything like that, on the contrary, if anything Heimbach makes the Russians look bad, as Heimbach makes everything he pretends to support look bad.

        He helps the anti-whites say that “the neo-Nazis are controlled by Putin” I guess. But I don’t even think Heimbach himself is anything more than an easily manipulated clown.

        Remember, if Heimbach wasn’t an “activist” he’d be just some dude with a worthless history degree from a third-rate college working at a gas station. Being a “bad neo-Nazi” got him a girlfriend, it was never anything more than that – his (non-romantic) female friend from high school admitted as much on TV.

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    • Boopedybop
      August 18, 2017

      It’s Dugin and Duginism.

      Heimbach went to Duginist rallies in Russia and even called himself a National Bolshevik (something Dugin is pushing) once.

      I remember talking to a bunch of people from TWP about this, and they keep replying with ‘the Duginist elements of the TWP have been eliminated’. Yeah, all except for one, Heimbach himself…

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  13. Sam J.
    August 19, 2017

    I don’t get why ramzpaul and others keep bleating on that White Nationalist is some kind of evil. Whites choosing their own fate is WN. Letting your enemies define you constantly is a losing position. I don’t disagree with all he said but he really has nothing positive to say at all. He has no plan, no nothing. His plan is we should be ashamed that some guys wave Nazi flags and shut up. I could care less if Nazis wave Nazi flags. I’m not a Nazi but Nazis don’t scare me I’m White. If it scares the Jews and the non-Whites, well good.

    I have no problem believing the Nazis are Jew agents but I don’t think that it will have the same effect it has had in the past. Now they are just the harder right to some. It makes the WN position stronger. I think if all Whites said that the Nazis don’t threaten them and nothing else then…what are they going to do? This is what Ann Coulter sort of said in an interview. She noted that Democrats were never asked about the Communist or AntiFa so why should Trump have to talk about the KKK. Why should we be pretending we’re guilty of being Nazis just because the news says so? They’re a bunch of liars.

    ramzpaul says we’re going to win. I don’t see this at all. I see NO way to change anything unless you name the Jew. If you do so then…you’re a Nazi. Whether you are or not is immaterial. So all this advice is really useless. The Jew are the main problem. Without the Jews many of our problems would right themselves. They have the biggest single advantage we don’t, cash. They own the FED and can print whatever they want. The did the exact same thing in Germany. They continued to control the country until AH took away their ability to print cash. Ooops so now I mention Hitler…whoops I’m a Nazi now. I’m not but it would seem any talk about the Jews and how to bring them to heel you would have to include some of the common sense steps that Hitler tried and made to work.(Attacking Russia instead of taking the oil fields in the middle east not being one of his better moments).

    I think punching to the right is stupid. Even if they’re Jewish shills. A simple, “I’m not a Nazi and they don’t threaten me” should be enough. Repeat as necessary. Breaking out the hair shirts every time someone calls you a Nazi is silly.

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    • Hipster Racist
      August 19, 2017

      @Sam J

      RamZPaul and others are obviously using the term “White Nationalism” to mean “14/88 culture.” I object to that characterization, I think there has always been a legitimate White Nationalist tendency that has not been “14/88 culture” so it’s really just an argument over labels.

      Also, there is no “punching to the right” going on. That’s bullshit Andrew Anglin defense – as if Andrew Anglin and his anime cartoons and (((Hollywood Nazi))) gimmick is “punching to the right.” The opposite is true – RamZPaul is more “to the right” and more conservative than Andrew Anglin.

      “Punching to the right” would be someone who is a “colorblind conservative” attacking someone how is legitimately pro-white. Mocking the NSM as the obvious FBI astroturf group that it is is NOT “punching to the right.”

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    • Hipster Racist
      August 19, 2017

      @Sam J

      Well I for one think you are living in fantasy world. It’s YOU “punching to the right.” RamZPaul is “to the right” of the Jewish/FBI neo-Nazis, so when you attack Ramzpaul and defend the neo-Nazis, YOU are “punching to the right.”

      STOP “punching to the right.”

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      • Sam J.
        August 19, 2017

        Oh please, (Waves hand in air like fat Negro Women). I’m not punching anything. There was no vitriol in what I said. I just said what I thought. I didn’t call him a cuck, I don’t hate him, blah, blah, blah.

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      • guest
        August 19, 2017

        The Sailer strategy works with mere nationalism. So why brand yourself a white nationalist, so you can be dismissed outright, when nationalism and white nationalism overlap until far down the road? They disperse only after the hump.

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      • Hipster Racist
        August 19, 2017

        @guest

        Fair enough, I think that is RamZPaul’s point. It’s not that I disagree, but since I’m just a blogger I think I can get away with being explicitly White Nationalist, although I do support nationalism for everyone – even Jews. Frankly, especially Jews.

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      • guest
        August 19, 2017

        A great counter when you are called a nazi:

        “you wouldn’t call a black person the n word to their face, so why are you calling me the the n word”

        Boom!

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      • bob saffron
        August 19, 2017

        This is a bedroom shot Hitler would have avoided.

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      • Primarius Krone
        August 19, 2017

        I like Ramz, but he’s on record as being pretty friendly with Jews. His step-father was a Jew. What to say about that? I think it makes his position compromised. Cure the cancer, but don’t tackle the cause.

        There seems to be a large body of Nationalists in America that sort of acknowledge the Jewish problem, but don’t really want to face it. And they certainly don’t want to face the fact that they were quite wrong about certain events 70+ years ago. They want their cake and eat it too. Kevin Macdonald calls what happened to the Jews in Germany “rationally incomprehensible” and would like to build a future with them (see comments from last year.) No thanks, really.

        Which brings me to the next point.

        What about Revisionists? Do we get lumped into the same dirty category as “Neo-Nazis” and the “KKK” ?

        Part of the problem is Europe, especially Germany right now, is that no matter which way you sell Nationalism – any sort – the spectre of the bad deeds of the past are brought up. It’s killing us, our birth rate is catastrophic. Our young people are like lost souls. Look at AfD, they are accused of being out-right Nazis how often? And are they? Not really. They’re trying to be pretty friendly to Jews even. Austrian freedom party makes visits to Israel and the Rabbis still make allusions to their “troubling” past.

        So I think Revisionism has the potential to take some of the heat out of the “oh you’re just a Nazi” accusation. It might even save my kinfolk in the long run. This not the same as being a “Neo-Nazi” I think – to acknowledge that AH was right about an awful lot of things.

        But besides all of that, anyway you skin this cat, the real issue is, until you get back control of the media and educational instuitions, most people are not going to want to throw their non-European friends/colleagues/neighbours under the bus. Maybe not even then. I think until people really experience diversity first hand, what it really means – that’s when the penny drops.

        They’ll live like hypocrites, for sure, but these relationships are more important than fairly abstract notions of demographics or what it means to be “German” and what not. They’ve had Turks living in Germany now for decades, so the whole “Islamic Terrorism” routine doesn’t really ring true with them either. There are so many losing strategies here, it’s hard to keep count.

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      • Hipster Racist
        August 19, 2017

        @PK

        I like Ramz, but he’s on record as being pretty friendly with Jews.

        So what? Seriously, why is this a problem? RamZPaul spends nearly 50% of his video time attacking anti-White Jews and pointing out the double-standards of Jews that are against ethno-nationalism for Whites while supporting an ethno-state in occupied Palestine.

        I’d take one “pretty friendly with Jews” guy like RamZPaul over 1,000 weirdo anti-semites jabbering about the “Protocols of Zion” or how “Jews are children of the devil” and other bizarre Catholic superstitions and conspiracy theories.

        I’ve known probably hundreds of Jews in my life, I’ve even dated a few Jewish women. So what?

        The Jew problem isn’t that you’ll catch cooties from talking to a Jew, or that Jews will brainwash you with Kosher Mind Control rays. The problem is that they are an ethno-centric ruling class with a vested interest in the anti-White movement.

        A “pretty friendly with Jews” nationalist like RamZPaul is far, far, far more effective than a drooling Nazitard ranting like a lunatic about Jews.

        Just like how Richard Spencer was masterful when he confronted that rabbi and said, “we want for Whites just what you Jews have for Israel.”

        World War II revisionism belongs in history class, it has no place in a pro-White movement. It makes zero difference what happened in World War II. I don’t pretend to know the situation in Europe, but I can say this about America without any hesitation: any American trying to drag “Nazi” and “Holocaust” shit into the pro-white movement is either a Fed or a Jew – or, possibly, one of those homosexuals that are into dressing up in uniforms and whipping each other.

        The reason we cannot confront the Jewish problem in America is precisely BECAUSE the Jews and Nazitards are constantly trying to role-play World War II instead of dealing with the American Jewish problem in 2017.

        Why stop at World War II and Hitler? Why not blather on about medevial Jews? Why not discuss how the Jews killed Jesus? Or maybe go back to the classical world and discuss Alexander the Great and Jews?

        Because it’s nothing but a distraction.

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      • bob saffron
        August 19, 2017

        Postponing the use of “white nationalism” won’t make its eventual adoption any easier. It’s completely neutral, hence the System heavy use of (((white supremacy))) instead.

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      • bob saffron
        August 19, 2017

        Revisionists aren’t necessarily aligned with NS ideology. It’s a truth movement, above all. I personally think they’re both heroic and vital.

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      • Primarius Krone
        August 20, 2017

        “So what? Seriously, why is this a problem?”

        As I wrote – his position is compromised. He’s not alone. Write about the Jewish influence over at Amren and see how far you get. They’re happy for them to blabber on about Black vs White crime, but never mention the people who enable it. This is effective? At what exactly?

        Of course I never said anything about the Protocols, or any other religious or superstitious nonsense – I’m on the same page as you here, the problem is their group level influence. But contemplate this. How do you get group-level attitudes without an individual level mindset?

        You’re too quick to dart off into imaginary tangents with me.

        “It makes zero difference what happened in World War II”

        Oh, but it does. This is a pivotal moment in your nation’s history. You want to skip over this part, but you can’t. You won’t be allowed to as long as (((they))) run things the way they do. It’s a catch-22.

        Suppose you actually started a movement, one that actually was serious about White interests, and lets say it couldn’t be twisted into something Jew friendly, how long do you think you would last? We know the answer.

        This is why a “Civic Nationalist” platform to disguise your true intent is delusional. It worked from Trump of course and we know why.

        The flip side to this is, when you start discussing the Jewish problem with any degree of seriousness, it quickly descends into what we have now. You can’t win. None of this works.

        I get your frustration, but IMHO, White Nationalism is not going anywhere fast right now with or without the clown show.

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      • Hipster Racist
        August 20, 2017

        @PK

        I’ve discussed this issue right here a million times.

        The problem with AmRen was that a Jew was placed in a position to censor discussion of Jewish power. Guess what happened? AmRen lost of a lot of its mojo to NPI, precisely because NPI did NOT have a Jew censoring discussions of the Jew problem. NPI headlined Kevin MacDonald. Yet AmRen allows RamZPaul – and Richard Spencer – AND Greg Johnson (who discussing the Jew problem constantly) – all people who are open about the Jewish problem. So even that has changed in the last few years.

        Oh, but it does. This is a pivotal moment in your nation’s history. You want to skip over this part, but you can’t. You won’t be allowed to as long as (((they))) run things the way they do. It’s a catch-22.

        This is where you are simply wrong. I have not heard or read anyone seriously discussing “the Holocaust” since the 1990s. Literally no one cares. 90% of the young people using the term “nazi” as a slur thinks it has something to do with slavery – when the fake Nazi groups show up at these events, they always pair a nazi flag with a Confederate flag.

        Perhaps even more importantly – World War II revisionism is HUGE, all over the internet. I even know anti-white left wingers who don’t by the standard WWII story. I know of black people who are “Holocaust deniers” and think Hitler did nothing wrong. The entire Hitler/Nazi/Holocaust/WWII thing just does not resonate with people anymore, good and bad.

        We’ve moved beyond it – which is why Jews, and the “Nazis” they hire, are so desperate to talk about WWII, the Holocaust, Hitler, etc. Because it’s a giant distraction.

        The SAME people that talk about Hitler, the “Nazis” and the Holocaust are the same people that talk about the Protocols of Zion, and the Freemasons, and how the Jesus killed Jesus. That kind of “anti-semitism” is what the shills like the (((Daily Stormer))) want to discuss.

        There is a huge difference between being pro-White and being anti-Semitic. Blacks are both anti-White and anti-Semitic.

        Hitler, the Holocaust, and World War II are nothing but a distraction to pro-White politics in America – we know this for a fact because EVERY single time people start talking about the interests of White people, Jews – and their hired “Nazi” actors – want to start talking about the Holocaust, or Hitler, etc.

        They ARE the clown show.

        This is why a “Civic Nationalist” platform to disguise your true intent is delusional.

        Why in the WORLD are you conflating Civic Nationalism with Hitler Holocaust Hysteria? I am a White Nationalist and put race FIRST. I am precisely NOT a civic nationalist – neither is RanZPaul. What does any of that have to do with Hitler, the Holocaust of WWII?

        The ONLY people in America that are worried about WWII, the Holocaust, and Hitler are Jews and their Nazi actors – full stop.

        Israel did 9/11 – Jews were caught red handed blowing up the WTC.

        Why aren’t we discussing that? That was just 15 years ago. That happened in America. Why aren’t we discussing that?

        Because Jews don’t want to discuss 9/11 – they want to discuss Hitler and the Nazis.

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      • Primarius Krone
        August 20, 2017

        I feel like I’m being corralled into a position I don’t actually hold. No one is saying adopt a Nazi uniform and goosestep around like you’ve lost the plot. I don’t know how you’re getting to this.

        This happens frequently in my discussions with you. I’ve seen it happen a few times with other people here too. Not sure what this is about. I think you’re so certain of your position at times you don’t actually listen/read other people very well.

        Look, frankly some of your assertions are just bizarre.

        No one cares about the WW2 or the Holocaust? Holocaust revisionism is big? lol

        You’re quick to ask where the Alt-Right exists in real life, so I ask you the same question about these points.

        The media constantly plays on these topics regarding the so-called immigration crisis and any opposition. Talk to any NORMAL, ORDINARY person, and they will tell you very quickly that people who don’t believe in the Holocaust is a wacko. I know this. I’ve experienced this.

        And yes, if you want a white homeland or you wish to turn away the “refugees”, you’re only a few short (goose) steps away from another Holocaust. That’s the power of the media. Do you deny this? Is there are reason why Hollywood releases so many WW2 movies every year? Propaganda works!

        You want to hold a position while this is going on, that WW2 was still “the good war”, that the “Jews suffered a horrible injustice” and the same time, point out that Jews are at least significantly responsible for our anti-White dilemma. Good luck with that!

        Ditto for 9/11. I’m totally red-pilled about 9/11, I know the details, I’ve probably forgotten more about it than most people will even discover, but bring this subject up with (again) NORMAL ORDINARY people and you’re gonna get a bewildered stare. I’m happy to talk about it though. I do whenever I can really. But most people believe this was a great example of Islamic terrorism. Fact.

        The people who hold these beliefs counter to the mainstream constitute perhaps less than 5% of the population. In the real world. I hope it changes, but it hasn’t it.

        “I am precisely NOT a civic nationalist – neither is RanZPaul”

        You’ve mentioned a few times that a Civic Nationalist platform is the way forward for America – to act as a subterfuge. I know you’re a White Nationalist, and I know RamZPaul is too (or more precisely, ethno-nationalism for all peoples.) Was my comment that cryptic? I don’t think it was. I wrote: “This is why a Civic Nationalist platform to disguise your true intent is delusional.”

        I stand by that comment.

        Why do you keep twisting my words?

        Enough now. Tired of fighting. Just over it all.

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      • Hipster Racist
        August 20, 2017

        Talk to any NORMAL, ORDINARY person, and they will tell you very quickly that people who don’t believe in the Holocaust is a wacko.

        That’s a good reason to not discuss the Holocaust with normal, ordinary people then, isn’t it?

        Are you suggesting that we must somehow “disprove the Holocaust” otherwise we can’t be pro-White? If anti-whites didn’t have the Holocaust – well they have slavery. And Jim Crow. And the Indians. They will use any excuse.

        Jews – and their Nazi proxies – want to discuss Hitler, the Holocaust, and the Nazis. They want to make White people’s very existence dependent on wht happened in World War II.

        To accept that frame is already to lose. Even if Hitler personally turned six million Jews into lampshades, that still doesn’t justify White genocide.

        What is even more absurd about this entire Jew/Nazi narraitive is the fact that the USA fought the Nazis – while the USA was an openly and avowed White Supremacist country that was frankly anti-semitic. The USA did NOT fight WWII to “save the Jews” – that is not at all why US soldiers were fighting the war.

        That is post-WWII propaganda. The Holocaust narrative wasn’t even a big deal until the TV era.

        White people, in 2017, don’t care about World War II. To reach average White people, we discuss the interests of White people now, today. White people *do not care* about WWII. The only people who want to talk about WWII are Jews, and Nazis (in America, they are the exact same group.)

        You’ve mentioned a few times that a Civic Nationalist platform is the way forward for America – to act as a subterfuge.

        No, I don’t believe that I have. I expect politicians to be civic nationalists, and I think “nationism for everyone” is a good slogan – that means “ethno-nationalism for everyone” not “civic nationalism for everyone.” There is no subterfuge.

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      • Hipster Racist
        August 20, 2017

        No, I don’t think I’m corralling you into a position you don’t actually hold. You said this:

        I think Revisionism has the potential to take some of the heat out of the “oh you’re just a Nazi” accusation.

        I have no doubt that it is an entirely different situation in Germany. But in America, this is just completely wrong. WWII revisionism does not have the potential to take some of the heat out of the “Nazi” accusation – quite the contrary. Holocaust revisionism is exactly what anti-white Jews want to discuss.

        I’m not saying YOU, personally, want to talk about the Protocols of Zion or how the Jews killed Jesus, but what I am saying is that the American White Nationalist “movement” – especially the Jew aware parts – have spent 50 years discussing those exact issues – and it’s a large part of the reason why they failed.

        Unlike Germany, we actually can legally discuss the Holocaust, and the White Nationalists have – and it did no good, in fact, was counter-productive.

        American White nationalists have gotten much farther on the Jew problem by discussing the Israel lobby and the occupation of Palestine than talking about WWII.

        Again – I am sure it is different in Germany, and among Germans. But in America the entire Jew/Nazi/Holocaust narrative is utterly and completely counter-productive, and it’s proven to be a huge failure.

        Americans were never Nazis, and America fought both the Nazis and the Commies. It’s just not relevant to American White Nationalism.

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    • Primarius Krone
      August 20, 2017

      “That’s a good reason to not discuss the Holocaust with normal, ordinary people then, isn’t it?”

      I don’t bring it up. They bring it up. They hold the loud speaker. And that’s where the issue lies.

      The parallels between 1930s Germany and what we’re asking for are not lost on many people. A Homeland for Whites. Address the Jewish problem. I think everyone a bit clued-in gets it.

      Spencer gets a good jab in, and they go right back to calling him a White supremacist neo-Nazi with obvious implications… That’s what Joe Blow gets on the evening news.

      And ironically, what he seems to be turning into. Why in the world does he associate with Anglin now? Then he ties himself nicely (“telepathically”) to Trump. Hmm!

      At least men like Buchanan had the guts to say it was a bad war, a wrong war – and he’s blasted for it. The truth stays alive. Is that so hard? I refuse to throw the truth under the bus. Because I think it’s the only thing that can really save us.

      That’s my take anyway. Have a good day.

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      • Hipster Racist
        August 20, 2017

        Anti-whites bring up the holocaust, anti-whites bring up slavery, anti-whites bring up the Indians.

        Do we have to prove slavery never happened in order to justify being pro-white? Do we have to prove the Indians were never killed by European settlers to justify being pro-white? Do we have to prove the holocaust never happened in order to justify being pro-white?

        It’s just an orthogonal issue. There are thousands of websites and videos dealing with WWII revisionism, it’s all over the internet. A huge number of people I’ve read said that Holocaust revisionism should be legal – certainly – on free speech grounds alone.

        But what does any of that have to do with white interests in 2017? Aside from the fact that anti-White Jews, specifically, want to say “white people are nazis and want to kill six million jews.” Just like anti-white blacks want to say “white people are KKK that want to put blacks into slavery” and increasingly brown people are saying “whites are cowboys that want to kill us Indians.”

        Spencer gets a good jab in, and they go right back to calling him a White supremacist neo-Nazi with obvious implications…

        Yeah, and? They also said he wanted to enslave black people and exterminate them – therefore, what, Spencer should prove that slavery never happened? “They are going to call us pro-slavery, so therefore we must be pro-slavery?”

        I have a really hard time understanding your arguments here. This is Andrew Anglin’s major thesis, “the only way to fix the Jew problem is to dismantle his holocaust hoax.”

        I don’t understand this line of reasoning AT ALL, it’s like people are speaking a different language than me or living on a different planet. Anti-whites call Donald Trump Hitler, does Trump then start talking about how Hitler didn’t really kill that many Jews?

        This reads to me as nothing but purposeful subversion, I know for a fact that it is exactly what the ADL pays people to do, so I have no idea why pro-white people would want to do it, it just makes no sense. I can find zero reasoning behind such an idea.

        At least men like Buchanan had the guts to say it was a bad war, a wrong war – and he’s blasted for it

        Yeah, that was a great book. Buchanan was also “blasted” for being against gay marriage, he’s also “blasted” for being against the Iraq war. This doesn’t seem to be a surprise to me.

        I still don’t see why any of this means that pro-white people in America in 2017 have to concern themselves with the holocaust?

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      • Primarius Krone
        August 20, 2017

        “I have a really hard time understanding your arguments here. This is Andrew Anglin’s major thesis, “the only way to fix the Jew problem is to dismantle his holocaust hoax.””

        It’s not his idea, this comes from better men like Robert Faurisson.

        “I still don’t see why any of this means that pro-white people in America in 2017 have to concern themselves with the holocaust?”

        What has surely been stated many times is, ideas like ours leads to another Holocaust. Meaning: First expulsion, then, probably murder. Are they wrong?

        What are you going to do with all the millions of non-Whites in America? People are asking the question. Search YouTube, even the people who have some concept of “Race Reality” are wondering. Kevin Macdonald believes the situation is largely irreversible. He’s probably right. If it isn’t, what are you going to do?

        Most people currently believe, falsely, that the Germans wanted to kill every single Jew or that they thought of themselves above all other peoples. Slavs particularly have this notion because of Jewish propagandists, despite many Slavs actually fighting alongside Germany. These are vicious lies. This is defamation. This is killing Germany. No nation survives if it believes itself to have done great evil deeds.

        So… Nothing to do with the US in 2017?

        Well you sure do have a lot of Jews in the US, an awful lot in very influential positions and many of them are certainly aware that many of their forebears could not flee to the States when they needed to during the alleged Holocaust. You’ll still get a good sob story about the boat full of Jews you turned away every year. This led them to have a pretty direct hand in altering your immigration policies, no?

        https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/01/jewish-refugees-in-the-us/514742/

        So, deny it all you like, I think the claims of the Holocaust affects the US plenty.

        I don’t think someone like Trump should ever react to questions like the one you pose, because it is clearly ridiculous. He’s not even explicitly pro-White, he’s just pro-American, has historically surrounded himself with plenty of non-whites and really only campaigned on enforcing immigration laws that are already in place. That and plenty of hyper-bole and showmanship.

        Now change that to a specific, serious pro-White platform, and you get a David Duke style reception with a 3% voter approval. Why is that?

        if you want to establish a pro-White platform (which Trump isn’t) then you need to detail just what it means. If you don’t want to talk about the specific Jewish Holocaust when they bring it up, fine don’t, but you still need to address how to get from A->B.

        When I talk to friends and some select colleagues about my homeland, and I make the suggestion that there are too many foreigners and this is negatively impacting us, the topic immediately draws to “so what do you want to do with them? This sounds like a plan like the Nazis had” (or words to that affect.)

        They’re not wrong. Not really. Getting out of the city looks better every day.

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      • Hipster Racist
        August 20, 2017

        ideas like ours leads to another Holocaust. Meaning: First expulsion, then, probably murder. Are they wrong?

        Yes, of course they are wrong. And again, I ask – in the situation of the United States, why are you giving prominence to World War II Germany?

        Anti-whites say that “ideas like ours” leads to slavery. Are they wrong? Anti-whites say that “ideas like ours” led to the purported genocide of the Indian tribes? Are they wrong?

        I understand from a German perspective that WWII, the “Nazis” and the “Holocaust” may be paramount, but that is certainly not the case in America. So to suggest that the White Nationalist struggle in America is somehow bound up with WWII, the “Nazis” and the “Holocaust” is simply repeating a Jewish talking point. It is certainly NOT the case that America went to war against Germany because of “the Holocaust” and it isn’t even close to true that the average American soldier was fighting to “save the Jews.”

        So tying up White interests in America with WWII, the “Nazis” and the “Holocuast” is simple, literal collaboration with anti-white Jews.

        It’s obviously true that “Nazism” is “bad optics” – no doubt. But it’s utterly false to suggest that a White Nationalist like me or even most pro-White people in America are “really Nazis” or “actually Nazi sympathizers” but just pretend otherwise because it’s bad optics. That is a lie – it is literally Jewish propaganda. For someone to accuse me of being a “Nazi sympathizer” who just won’t wave around a swastika because it’s “bad optics” is a Jewish lie. Anyone saying that about me, or most pro-Whites in America, are certainly no ally of American White nationalism, for certain.

        What are you going to do with all the millions of non-Whites in America? People are asking the question.

        Who, me? I don’t understand why you are doing the enemy’s work for them, which is exactly what you are, in fact doing. Why aren’t you asking anti-Whites, “what are you going to do with all the millions of Whites in America?”

        The lunatic nutjob Alex Linder got Hunter Wallace on a radio show and demanded he agree that “killing Jewish babies” is justified in some sense. Anyone demanding such rhetoric is an enemy of White people, frankly. Our job as White Nationalists is to get White people to start thinking collectively – NOT to start picking out real estate or answering theoretic questions that are designed to force people to make discrediting statements.

        Nothing to do with the US in 2017?

        No, nothing to do with the US in 2017. Obviously. You were discussing Germany. If you are speaking from a German perspective, then YOU start answer your own questions, about Germany. What are YOU, as a German, planning on doing? What are YOU, as a German, proposing? Don’t drag me into your German issues. From an American perspective, I fully support my fellow White people, in Germany, preserving their people and their homeland. If Germans, in Germany, want to revisit the 1930s, have at it – you have my blessings. You won’t find me going around demonizing the German people or acting like Hitler is The Devil. I agree with Pat Buchanan, as a matter of fact – WWII was “the unnecessary war” and I wish it never happened – same with WWI – why aren’t we doing any WWI revisionism?

        As far as I can tell, it has NOTHING to do with White interests, and EVERYTHING to do with Hitler/Nazi fetishism. Sorry, I am not a Hitler/Nazi fetishist. It has nothing to do with me. I resent Jews – AND Nazis – for trying to drag me into their historical fetish.

        The idea that I have ever downplayed the Jewish problem is, of course, absurd. The entire reason I won’t play the Jews’ anti-white game by blathering on about Hitler and the Nazis is precisely because I understand the Jewish propaganda.

        Now change that to a specific, serious pro-White platform, and you get a David Duke style reception with a 3% voter approval. Why is that?

        Because David Duke, in his early years, fell in with the “neo-Nazi” FBI informant, George Lincoln Rockwell, and spent the first half of his career HELPING the Jews push their anti-white policies due to his idiocy, that is why. Before George Lincoln Rockwell, the neo-Nazi FBI informant, America was an openly White Nationalist, segregated country. George Lincoln Rockwell, the neo-Nazi FBI informant, was instrumental is setting up the pro-White movement for 50 years of failure. I for one am not ever going to follow in his failed footsteps.

        This sounds like a plan like the Nazis had

        In America, people always bring up slavery and the supposed genocide of the Indians.

        Why aren’t you, in Germany, discussing the American black slave era and the genocide of the American Indians? Why aren’t you, in Germany, parading around the streets waving a Confederate flag?

        I want to know what your stance, as a German, in Germany, is regarding American Blacks, slavery, and the Indians. You must have a plan about slavery, blacks, and the Indians before you are allowed to be pro-German, apparently.

        So – you first.

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      • Primarius Krone
        August 21, 2017

        And… We’re off, again. Okay then, me first.

        Firstly, to be honest, I hardly consider myself to be a German anymore. It is more of a distant feeling. I find very little to relate with modern Germany, other than some aging relatives who wonder what the hell happened (again.)

        Continuing. I think most people around the world concede Slavery abhorrent and what happened to the American Indians to be, at a minimum (rather mildly) unfortunate.

        Do our ideas lead to slavery? No I think our position is quite clear on slavery. We are against it. That’s a concrete position.

        Do our ideas lead to an American Indian (alleged) genocide – perhaps. You have a problem there too. Just like the Australians have an issue with Aborigines. My specific position would be that when the English arrived, in either circumstance, they were not aware it was “taken” and it would be probably irrational to consider the vast expanse of unoccupied areas as belonging to someone, certainly peoples so backward (esp. in the case of the Aborigines.) That’s certainly a more nuanced topic. Worth discussing and fleshing out to win more folks over.

        Going back to the top… I never said you should wave a Nazi flag around. I said, the Holocaust impacts you. I still stand by that. I knew you’d bring up those facts about Dr. Duke when I posted it, but even without his KKK associations and what not, he’d have done little better. It can only get worse. Demographics.

        And … I certainly never suggested you’re a secret Nazi or a sympathiser, or that you have some sort of Hitler fetish, but again, you dismiss the parallels that nearly everyone else can see. It’s not about being a specific Hitler fanatic – I would not even say that about myself, but it’s quite clear that what you want is *like* what the Germans had. You deny this? Oh, you want what the Americans had?

        Oh yes, you bang on about America being a white homeland – sure, when was that? You let it all slip away without even a smallest of fight. That’s why no one talks about America as some great white stronghold. That’s 1000 x worse than the Nazi LARPing. Both are losers, but only one brought the fight and had a modicum of success in retaining independence.

        Jewish propaganda? A Jewish talking point?

        Suppose it is. So what. You get challenged on it and you have no answers. You can’t build ethnic consciousness when your plan has this big gaping hole in the middle. This is the flaw with the so-called “Alt-Right” and “White Nationalism.”

        How can it really appeal to good, normal white folks, when you can’t even answer basic questions without going into a diatribe about how this is “anti-White.” Your entire rebuttal is one giant tangent that has nothing to do with what I’m saying. I understand why it irritates you, but it’s not going away. It’s why all of this is probably a waste of time until the SHTF. Lindner might be a lunatic, but at least he’s honest about what he wants to do.

        Just answer it: What do you want to do with non-Whites? I want them expelled. I’d do it carefully, cautiously and with cooperation with non-White like-minded nationalists. That’s about the best you can offer.

        But … I think, as that chap in the UK, Joe Owens (?) has enough sense to point out, the failings of pro-White talking points in the USA has nothing to do with the bloody Nazis. It’s just f*cked as it is, because the world has changed and people aren’t willing to throw their non-White friends and colleagues under the bus.

        About challenging Non-Whites. We’re trying to change the status quo, not non-Whites. Not Jews. Non-Whites don’t have to do anything to win. They don’t have to do any explaining. They will just out breed us. Easily. Some already laugh about it – “stealing your jobs – lols.” Non-Whites just continue on their merry way and they win. Further more, Jews hold all the cards in the playing deck. Even if they do and have said pretty controversial things, it wouldn’t even matter – nobody would hear about it.

        So I don’t need to ask them about what they’re going to do with White people, we already know what they want and we already have the lessons of history to see where it will likely go (Blacks in Haiti, Jews in Russia, etc.) You’re talking to other white people, who want to appear moral, good and righteous – so what is the plan then?

        Now to the meat of this… You resent being dragged into it by Jews and Nazis, but last time I checked, the USA was present and pretty active in Germany during WW2, and you sided with the Jews (whether you knew it or not), you fell for the propaganda hook, line and sinker. Then you destroyed us. Then you occupied us, and then you enforced all your anti-German propaganda on us. You were a guilty party. A co-conspirator.

        Gosh, I suppose I resent that as well. And it wasn’t the last time you did it, many other nations then suffered similar fates and it likely won’t be the last (hey look now, North Korea.) I guess the Iraqis resent American democracy bombs too? What do you suppose the rest of world thinks of America? Are they wrong? I don’t think so.

        The truth is, I don’t care about America, not one iota. I care about White, European peoples or put another way, people of European origin. These are the people I’m most comfortable with. These are the people I want to live with. I don’t hate anyone else as a rule of thumb, not even the wretched Jews. What of the USA? It is, on balance, a force for evil and when it’s a spent force (not that far off, really) it will be discarded unceremoniously by those who currently occupy it. Do you think otherwise?

        The English are no better. It seems to be Anglo feature, this overwhelming … hubris … to believe you can do anything without any blow-back or just brush off your handy work as nothing to do with you.

        Any Germany? It can’t do a thing. It’s like an over cooked Turkey. They keep hoping they can work their way out any problem. Germany is so far under the thumb of the Judeo-Anglo axis it’s not even funny. If we merely speak up, we are jailed. Thousands rot in jail cells.

        Why do Americans still occupy Germany? Yes, the number of troops stationed has come down, but I laugh every time I hear Trump demand Germany pay more for defense. Defense. Yes, that’s what the US is helping us with here, and apparently prostitution and whoring out our women is part of the package.

        For the longest time I hoped the US would finally break free of it’s shackles so we could have a hope, but now I just wish the beast would balkanise.

        So no … sorry mate, the Holocaust, WW2, your alignment with Jewry, It’s plenty to do with you. All of it. You want a “White Homeland” after all your misdeeds and you think you can just step over important questions that pertain to your entire, current, in the real world, world view?

        Good luck with that.

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      • Hipster Racist
        August 21, 2017

        Well we can agree on a few things:

        1. You aren’t interested in American White Nationalism.

        2. You have nothing to contribute to American White Nationalism.

        3. You think American White Nationalism is a waste of time.

        You hate Americans, and the English.

        You want a “White Homeland” after all your misdeeds

        So, like Jews and anti-whites in general, you believe that Whites aren’t allowed to have a homeland because of past misdeeds. The Jews want us dead because we didn’t do enough for them in WWII, and you want us dead because we “sided with the Jews” in WWII.

        We’re clearly not on the same side and have nothing to offer each other. So, it’s pretty much just a waste of time.

        You started this by asking what role “revisionists” should play in the pro-White movement – and it’s obvious that you aren’t particularly interested in how many Jews it takes to make a lampshade, but instead to say that “America was wrong in WWII and AH was right.”

        That is a perfectly understandable sentiment for a German, of course. But we see that you hate Americans, and the English, just as much as you hate Jews. You aren’t interested in a positive future for Anglos, certainly, but want revenge for the past.

        In that, you are just like the Jews, as a matter of fact.

        But you’ve proven my point for me – “revisionists” have no positive role to play in White Nationalism, at all, at least not in America. The entire purpose of “revisionism” is just to attack Anglos and refight WWII.

        Which is obviously for me a complete waste of time in every way and nothing at all but a distraction. Frankly, as far as I’m concerned, Jew = Nazi, “each thing evokes its opposite” as they say.

        So, yeah, good luck. Maybe Trump will dismantle NATO – I certainly don’t want the US occupying Germany.

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      • Primarius Krone
        August 21, 2017

        Ok, I think you’re mostly right with this one.

        I do think you deserve a homeland though. When I criticise the Anglo sphere, I’m consciously looking at government bodies, not the real people. The English are in many ways are similar to Germans, I know this very well.

        The rest of your conclusions are probably right. I don’t think I actually support White Nationalism in North America as you see it… I don’t need to add any more to this, lets not beat a horse. This discussion has helped clarify my thinking on the matter.

        So now I shut up. I actually do wish you luck. I’ve learnt a lot from this blog, but as often has been the case in the past, it’s time for me to move on. Take care.

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      • CatInTheHat
        August 20, 2017

        “I don’t bring it up. They bring it up. They hold the loud speaker. And that’s where the issue lies.”

        They bring it up to change the subject from White Survival, an issue they can’t win on, to subjects that are easier for them to deal with. If you follow them, you are being led around by the nose. If you are disciplined you will bring them back to the core issue which is survival.

        Are whites the only group to commit genocide? No. All nations were founded on Genocide. That includes the original Israel. Look it up in the Bible.

        Should whites feel guilt for slavery? There is no record of a white man enslaving any black man. Whites bought slaves from blacks, who enslaved other blacks.

        Back to white survival.

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      • CatInTheHat
        August 20, 2017

        If the Holocaust happened in Germany, should all whites hate themselves, open all their countries to massive non-white immigration and forced assimilation, until we all go extinct?

        This is preposterous right? But that is what they are using the Holocaust to do. They are using one genocide to justify another genocide.

        Don’t tailgate anti-white fools. Bring the discussion back to white survival.

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      • Primarius Krone
        August 20, 2017

        “Back to white survival.”

        Good advice, I will try to keep this in mind… Thanks.

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      • bob saffron
        August 20, 2017

        Anglin’s style does no favors to serious revisionism. One wonders how he even avoided apprehension.

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      • Primarius Krone
        August 20, 2017

        I think a couple of years ago, I read on the Daily Stormer, that he believes “wearing out” the Nazi term is the way forward. That’s supposedly why he uses the imagery so much, and I guess why he does something like this.

        I detached myself completely from his surroundings shortly after Trump’s 2016 AIPAC speech (for which they were completely apologetic), and then finding (and transcribing) his interview with those Black guys back in 2012. Keep in mind, he then founded “Total Fascism” a few months later.

        I don’t know what his game is for sure. He can be entertaining. Maybe he is an ADL employee like some suggest, or he’s just playing a character (“Anglin’ for something.”) Or maybe he’s just what appears to be.

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  14. Afterthought
    August 19, 2017

    Good stuff.

    Your remark about the 2018 election rings true.

    Had we pursued a decentralized strategy after Trump’s win, burrowing into the local GOP and prepping for the 2018 primary, we would be in a commanding position. Now we have to scramble to get there. The centralizers killed the movement, perhaps as part of a calculated murder, but certainly as a consequence of their narcissistic and histrionic character flaws.

    The only way forward currently is to wrap white interests in the veneer of civic nationalism, dare I say Trumpism, and hope to move the ball down field play by play. The bomb-throwers wont like that, but they need to be purged and quarantined anyway. The perfect future has people like yourself, Greg Johnson, and other high IQ, high discipline people interacting with and influencing the Stefan Molyneuxs and Jordan B Petersons of the world – the furthest acceptable right edge of the “Overton Window” for the foreseeable future.

    If Civic Nationalism can accomplish some things in terms of demographics and international affairs, we will be in a much more viable position to start a move towards white I like to call Ariana – the putative white homeland.

    Other targets of opportunity and synergy remain there for the taking: liberty against the technocratic Deep State, man over machine.

    Let’s win this, for God’s sake!

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    • bob saffron
      August 19, 2017

      Exactly. A myriad of autonomous, locally coordinated efforts present a difficult target and allow organizers to frame the narrative and scale-up via alternative media. Less showy, but more winnable.

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  15. Primarius Krone
    August 19, 2017

    So I finally got around to watching the vid. Not a bad one from Ramz. He still feels positive about the potential for White people to win back their homes too, which is a nice and surprising vibe from him.

    Some chap in the comments made the observation that in Europe, because “Nazi” imagery is banned, they’ve had to develop their political message in another direction to get any sort of success off the ground floor.

    Revisioninsts get hounded like crazy of course, but you might argue that’s another problem altogether.

    Of course, one problem in Europe is that nearly all of the allegedly “far-right” groups now days are Kosher friendly, even though the Kosher types are nearly always (but not completely) against them. I see why of course, if they don’t, there’s always the risk that they get the Jorge “did someone say brake failure” Haider treatment.

    Now, considering how well these groups poll, I really wonder if we’re screwed for the time being. Maybe not in the long run, but certainly for the next decade or so, until the next generation of voters emerge and are (potentially) more receptive to this message. Here’s hoping anyway…

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  16. lettersfromthescallopboat
    August 20, 2017

    This truly feels like a community of people that I should have associated myself with a long time ago. Thanks for the post, it was a good read.

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  17. james
    August 20, 2017

    I don’t have anything to add, but thanks HR for recommending RamZPaul so many times. He is excellent.

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    • guest
      August 21, 2017

      Random RamZ joke:
      “Goths like everything black, well except black people.”

      rofl

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  18. guest
    August 21, 2017

    >Of course protests are meaningless

    Can the tea party protests be considered a success?

    Their only legacy seems to be another straw man for the establishment to beat.

    Speaking of:

    Thursday, August 17, 2017

    “A federal judge on Thursday ordered the IRS to name the specific employees the agency blames for targeting tea party groups for intrusive scrutiny and said the government must prove it has ceased the targeting.”

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    • Hipster Racist
      August 21, 2017

      @guest

      Good point. Protests are an expression of power – they don’t *gain* a group power. The Tea Party represented the audience of FOX News mostly, and the typical Rush Limbaugh listening Republican. That group already has a certain amount of power, at least, the power to elect cuckservative Republicans. So when they showed up – in huge numbers – all around the country it was an expression of their power, and they did in fact win back Congress two years later, IIRC.

      I suppose it’s possible that it was a cheerleading exercise for cuckservatives and contributed to their team spirit. Of course it was co-opted by the insurance companies almost immediately so they didn’t really win anything of substance – Obamacare is still here.

      Was the Pussy Hat Parade a success? The Pussy Hat Parade was Obama Democrats. Obama is gone, the Democrats lost the House of Representatives, the Senate, the Supreme Court, and 2/3rds of the state governments. I’m sure the Pussy Hat Parade raised some money for Democratic party causes and I’m sure they signed up a few people, so maybe you could say it wasn’t a complete failure.

      Was Occupy Wall Street a success? In that particular case it seems to me not at all.

      The Tea Party and the Pussy Hats were just expressions of the major political parties – I would say their protests did not at all grow the base, it was an expression of the base.

      The story about the IRS shows that, if anything, “lawfare” is more effective than parading around on the streets in colonial and/or pussy hats.

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      • bob saffron
        August 23, 2017

        @ H.R.:
        Any thoughts about Brother Nathaniel? (Apart from Jim Morrison rolling in his grave, that is.)

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  22. Brandon Adamson
    August 24, 2017

    I remember a lot of people using the term altright back in the 2010-2011 time period, usually associated with people like Derbyshire and Steve Sailer. I myself used it in a 2011 article floating the idea of Trump for president (though back then I think I referred to it as ‘alternate right.’)
    http://stepkid.com/articles/could-the-donald-be-americas-trump-card/

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    • Hipster Racist
      August 24, 2017

      @Brandon Adamson

      I remember a lot of people using the term “Alt Right” as a broader category than just “White Nationalist.” You could be “Alt Right” without being a “White Nationalist” but WN was considered part of the Alt Right.

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  23. McZOG
    August 26, 2017

    C.I.A. Connections of White Nationalist Leaders and Alternative Media Figures

    https://imgur.com/a/oiB5I

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    • Hipster Racist
      August 26, 2017

      @McZOG

      The flowcharts are a nice touch, it’s too bad you didn’t add some documentation.

      For instance, how is Jared Taylor an “international banker?”

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      • McZOG
        August 26, 2017

        For instance, how is Jared Taylor an “international banker?”

        That was one of Jared Taylor’s previous jobs, back in the 1970’s or 1980’s. You would know that if you had ever bothered to read Jared Taylor’s bio, which you obviously haven’t.

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      • Hipster Racist
        August 26, 2017

        Taylor worked as an international lending officer for the Manufacturers Hanover Corporation from 1978 to 1981

        Again, we see McZOG “tactic” in action. He’d call a bank teller for Wells Fargo an “international banker” and connect them to the NSA because his cousin fixed the car of a guy at SAIC, and SAIC has some NSA contracts.

        In fact, we can use McZOG’s own tactic to tie him to the Defense Intelligence Agency – he’s a regular collaborator with Hipster Racist, who, according to McZOG, is a DIA agent (or sometimes, a CIA agent, McZOG doesn’t care for specifics.)

        CIA Agent McZOG.

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  24. McZOG
    August 26, 2017

    This is “Azzmador” (real name Robert Warren Ray) from The Daily Stormer:

    http://www.irontroll.com/2015/11/bobby-rays-hair.html

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  25. McZOG
    August 27, 2017

    Anglin’s style does no favors to serious revisionism. One wonders how he even avoided apprehension.

    It’s easy to avoid apprehension if you’re a U.S. Govt. intelligence agent play-acting as an internet neo-Nazi.

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  26. McZOG
    August 27, 2017

    Hey, Hipster Racist, why hasn’t WordPress shut down your free blog for TOS violations yet?

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    • Hipster Racist
      August 27, 2017

      Probably because I haven’t violated the WordPress TOS. Fiction, parody, and sarcasm are not illegal yet.

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      • McZOG
        August 27, 2017

        H.R., whatever happened to that 9/11 Truth video documentary you said you were going to make back in 2011?

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      • Hipster Racist
        August 27, 2017

        @McZOG

        A query I’ve answered a dozen times. I left the US precisely because of the, er, “backlash” I got for filming what I did.

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      • McZOG
        August 28, 2017

        I left the US precisely because of the, er, “backlash” I got for filming what I did.

        This answer doesn’t really make any sense. So now that you’re in a foreign country (which one?), that means you’re safe from the “backlash” you received from filming what you did, so why haven’t you produced the 9/11 video documentary yet? You’ve been living abroad for six years and still haven’t produced anything.

        One would think that if you possess such earth-shattering facts about the events surrounding the 9/11 attacks that you would want the entire world to know them. I guess you’re not much of a 9/11 Truther after all, huh.

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      • Hipster Racist
        August 28, 2017

        @McZOG

        Your obsession with me is weird. I think you’re a woman. The stuff you are saying about me is mostly fictional – as usual, you take a grain of truth then invent elaborate lies on top of it. In fact, I’ve even said on numerous occasions that I DO NOT have any “earth-shattering facts” about 9/11. The 9/11 story has already been told by people far more knowledgeable than I am.

        What are you doing? Why are you stalking me and trolling my site like some bored housewife that gets off of my spanking stories? Don’t you have a blog? Why hasn’t it been taken down by the Irish-Jew alliance? Maybe because you are working for them?

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      • McZOG
        August 28, 2017

        Probably because I haven’t violated the WordPress TOS. Fiction, parody, and sarcasm are not illegal yet.

        Oh, so you’re saying that your “pro-white” political beliefs and views are fiction, parody, and sarcasm?

        That’s a very interesting admission on your part.

        So essentially you’re saying that “Hipster Racist” is a character you invented and that your endless free WordPress blogs are performance art.

        How does that make you any different from Andre Anglin and The Daily Stormer?

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      • McZOG
        August 30, 2017

        The stuff you are saying about me is mostly fictional

        Well of course it’s all fictional. You’re a fictional character, remember?

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      • Hipster Racist
        August 30, 2017

        @McZOG

        Glad you’re finally admitting it.

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      • McZOG
        August 30, 2017

        Why hasn’t it been taken down by the Irish-Jew alliance? Maybe because you are working for them?

        Ask Terry McAuliffe and Wesley Clark.

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      • Hipster Racist
        August 30, 2017

        @McZOG

        Tells me all I need to know – you’re working for them.

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  27. McZOG
    August 27, 2017

    Well, look what I found. Andre Anglin set up a free WordPress blog a few days ago and wrote a post in which he states the following (among many other things):

    1.) The Daily Stormer is performance art.
    2.) The Andrew Anglin of TDS is a character he invented.
    3.) 1.) and 2.) are a mass psychological experiment to effect social change.

    On the Current Status of the Daily Stormer and the Weird Events Surrounding It
    https://andrewanglinblog.wordpress.com/2017/08/25/on-the-current-status-of-the-daily-stormer-and-the-weird-events-surrounding-it/

    The Daily Stormer is a Performance Art Project and the Andrew Anglin Who Writes for It is a Character I Have Invented

    Though we share the same name, the Andrew Anglin who appears on the site is not me but a character that I have created, an outrageously extreme individual who takes pleasure in being provocative, and maintains an unhinged desire to commit numerous genocides. Though it doesn’t matter who I am, as the only thing that matters is my plan, it may be worthwhile to let the record show that I am a very nice person, who has always treated people of all races as individuals in any and all of my one-on-one interpersonal interactions.

    As an actual human being, I do not resemble the character of Andrew Anglin which, with the enthusiastic assistance of the media and groups such as the SPLC, I have created for the Daily Stormer.

    A big part of what I do with the Andrew Anglin character on the Daily Stormer is trigger the outrage culture, in order to expose the fundamentally flawed nature of it, as well as to draw attention to myself and my agenda, which would otherwise simply be ignored. That certainly worked with the Heather Heyer piece.

    The powers that wish to shut down the agenda of social transformation that I am working on. They have a vested interest in maintaining the idea that the Andrew Anglin character exists as a real person, and that his plan is pure evil. That he is a genocidal maniac out of some children’s comic book who must be put down at any cost.

    If this blog is allowed to remain up – and it should, as long as I uphold my pledge to not talk about politics on it, as it is ostensibly only my politics that have been banned from the internet and not me as an individual – then I will elaborate here on this concept of Daily Stormer as performance art.

    This concept is something that any regular reader is already aware of. Part of the process of understanding the site is slowly coming to the realization that the format it is presented in is a form of performance art. The esoteric nature of it is an adventure for the reader, like the process of joining a secret club.

    However, the purpose of maintaining the character was to gain mass media attention by creating spectacle. That is a mission, I believe that I can fairly say, has been accomplished. Presently, I have a duty to make my ideas accessible to the wider audience that this massive media exposure has given me, and that requires me to go through the heart-wrenching process of breaking character and explaining the nature of my art.

    The Daily Stormer was never the place for such a project, as the Andrew Anglin who writes the Daily Stormer must remain at the helm of that ship. So it is fitting that right now the Daily Stormer is fixed on the Darknet, and the only place that those unwilling to go through the trouble of figuring out how to view it will see my writing is here, where I will remain apolitical, by dictate of the the Silicon Vally elite, and instead simply provide meta commentary on the nature of the project.

    I may also reveal more personal details about myself, the life I have lived and perhaps tell of my understanding of human existence and all of existence as a spiritual phenomenon, rather than a material one.

    Andrew Anglin
    Letters from Internet Prison
    August 24, 2017

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    • Hipster Racist
      August 27, 2017

      @McZOG

      You’re really late to the game here, Anglin’s blog has been public for a week or so. And OF COURSE Anglin was always just “performance art” – or trolling – or “parody” – depending on how you want to look at it.

      The biggest problem with Anglin wasn’t his low-rent sense of humor, it was his collaboration with Joshua Goldberg, Weev, and the JIDF that was the problem. That, and the fact that WAY too many of his fans didn’t seem to understand that it was supposed to be a parody.

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      • McZOG
        August 28, 2017

        You’re really late to the game here, Anglin’s blog has been public for a week or so.

        His first blog post was made on August 24th, and I found the blog on August 26th. That’s two days, not “a week or so.”

        https://andrewanglinblog.wordpress.com/2017/08/24/first-blog-post/

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      • joez
        August 28, 2017

        And no one is asking if Free Speech For Whites is increasing or decreasing, due to Andrew’s genius strategy of behaving like a Yet Another Hollywood Nazi.

        These are not results oriented people.

        I also saw he is now telling his followers to get Alt-Lights banned from Twitter, because they would stand up for his right to be a Hollywood Nazi. Why so few can see what he is beyond me. Is the gene pool really that degraded?

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      • Hipster Racist
        August 28, 2017

        @joez

        Interesting that Anglin’s “Troll Army” wants to make it HARDER to be a moderate pro-white and EASIER to be a moderate anti-white. That’s actually the opposite strategy of moving the Overton window.

        The problem with Anglin’s Troll Army is that half of them are JIDF (Jewish Defense League) and the other half are really just stupid teenage boys.

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      • joez
        August 28, 2017

        because they would NOT stand up for his right to be a Hollywood Nazi

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  28. McZOG
    August 28, 2017

    Well, what do you know. The C.I.A./Regnery owned website AltRight.com is now endorsing/promoting a meme invented by “Hipster Racist”. What a small world, huh?

    https://altright.com/2017/08/27/aryan-skynet-here-we-come/

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    • Hipster Racist
      August 28, 2017

      @McZOG, you goof. I didn’t invent the meme, Mindweapon did. Second of all, the moderator of AltRight.com hates me and even temporarily banned me from the site. Third of all, it’s not even about our meme, it’s about Ah-nold, he just stole the “Aryan Skynet” name without even giving credit to Mindweapon.

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    • McZOG
      August 30, 2017

      My mistake. The “Aryan Skynet” meme was invented by [MW] in the 1990’s. [MW] owns the website Mindweapons in Raganarok, which you are closely affiliated with. [MW] borrowed the term “mindweapons” from “From PSYOP to MindWar – The Psychology of Victory,” a 1980 paper written by Colonel Paul Valley and Colonel Michael Aquino for the U.S. Army Reserves 7th Psychological Operations Group. [MW] himself was employed by the U.S. Army Reserves in the late 1990’s as a Russian linguist subsequent to his living in Russia for six months after graduating from college. (As a side note here, Alex Jones likely got the term “Infowars” from the same source).

      Again, what a small world. I’m sure it’s just a coincidence that nearly every major and minor figure within the American “white nationalist” subculture has direct connections to the U.S. military and/or intelligence agencies.

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      • Hipster Racist
        August 30, 2017

        Not quite, McZOG. As usual, you are loose with the facts. Mindweapon came up with his handle independently, in the 2000s, and I’m the one that informed him about the Valley/Aquino paper – something which I’ve blogged about several times. It’s rather humorous that you seem to think you are “revealing” or “outing” stuff that people have written about openly, constantly, forever.

        My “affiliation” with the Mind Weapons In Ragnarok blog is that I used to post there a lot, and came up with this handle, “Hipster Racist” from there. I’ve also emailed MW a number of times – so you should rephrase that to something like, “Mindweapon and Hipster Racist are in contact via electronic means, via a network originating with the Department of Defense.” That sounds a LOT more interesting than just “email” but I’m sure you’ll get a lot of mileage out of that.

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  29. yogiguy
    August 28, 2017

    Number 11. Didn’t Andrew Anglin make his first move towards befriending R. Spencer with his Troll army offensive at Tanya Gersh for her attempt to extortion of Richard’s mother in Whitefish, declaring on his site “Are y’all ready for an old fashioned Troll Storm?” Got Anglin some legal heat for that one! It seemed odd to me Anglin did that.
    Best quote from SPLC:
    “In the old days, Andrew Anglin would have burned a cross on Tanya’s front lawn,” Southern Poverty Law Center President Richard Cohen said. “In the digital age, he launched a troll storm against her.”

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  30. Nightingale
    August 30, 2017

    @hipster What’s your take on Vox Day?

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    • Hipster Racist
      August 30, 2017

      @Nightingale

      Voxday is alright. For some odd reason he’s blocked me on Twitter. He was complaining about the neo-Nazis being the “fake right” and I informed him that he was correct – essentially the entire “neo-Nazi” movement has been a joint project of the FBI and the ADL. But then he blocked me.

      He’s kind of weird.

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  31. yogiguy
    August 31, 2017

    Frank Collin & Christian Picciolini both former neo-Nazis from the Chicago area with Frank Collin actually being a “Cohen.” Christian is now about turning neo-Nazi girls into nice people again, Evalion and Crusader Girl. Mr. Picciolini has a nice little chat with Richard Spencer about healing from hate yet does not talk to the Anti-Fa puncher of Richard Spencer, interesting. Has there ever been a real neo-Nazi?

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  32. Rel
    September 11, 2017

    This is who gave Anglin the idea to get Alt-Lights/Normies banned from Twitter and his reasoning.

    https://gab.ai/JohnRivers/posts/11932490

    I don’t understand how shifting the gravity of the most powerful propaganda platform in history towards Bolshevism helps Whites.

    If you are going to do the SPLC’s work for them, at least ask them for monetary compensation.

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  33. dm11son
    September 30, 2017

    The alt-right can be a perfectly acceptable political position if played right.

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