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Charlottesville Open Thread

I go away for a week and the race war starts without me.

The Alt Right “Unite the Right” rally happened over the weekend. Antifa and the Democrats showed up, started a riot, the Democratic government of Virginia and Charlottesville called out the National Guard, a police helicopter crashed, killing two, and someone ran their car into a crowd of protestors, killing one and seriously injuring dozens.

The media is essentially claiming that “Trump Nazis” have started a civil war with terrorist attacks. One thing this shows is that the left is far better organized than the right. The left has practice getting people to show up at the same time in the same place on a regular basis, and leftists, being concentrated in the cities, can do public protests better than the right. If there really were some sort of serious violence, how would the right win? For all the talk about guns, the people with guns live in the country. Plus, when leftists commit violence, they can retire to a cushy job in a university, when a rightist commits violence, he’s sent to prison and disavowed.

Prediction: the vast majority of Americans will forget this event within 14 days, only to be reminded by the media that “Nazis” connected to “Donald Trump” are “terrorists.” Liberals will howl with outrage, conservatives will cuck, and the “Alt Right” leaders will stage another event in a few months.

In other words, business as usual. Immigration will continue, and anti-white rhetoric will be as mainstream as even.

Am I wrong?

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180 comments on “Charlottesville Open Thread

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  2. ajmacdonaldjr
    August 13, 2017

    Sounds about right to me.

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  3. icareviews
    August 13, 2017

    Reblogged this on icareviews and commented:

    Hipster Racist invites your thoughts on Charlottesville.

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  4. icareviews
    August 13, 2017

    The Hill’s reporter on the scene, a person named Taylor Lorenz, said that people were swarming the Dodge at the time of the “terrorist attack”, so it seems to be a case of a guy panicking and flipping out in the heat of a frustrating situation. Having said that, I do think it would be a positive if, as people are asserting, this guy turns out to be a Jew, since his mother’s name is Bloom. Anglin already seems to have gone cuckoo-for-bowlcuts over this guy, tastelessly mocking the dead woman and calling her a player hater, plus ridiculing the helicopter crew as “Venezuela-tier”. (I admit it, I laughed.) Fields, whatever his motivations, is the last person with whom the Alt-Right wants to associate; and the fact that he was previously photographed in battle mode with a solar cross shield indicates that this may be an image with which we want to disassociate. Aesthetically, I preferred the old, staid conference model with speakers like Alex Kurtagic and Sam Dickson – intellectuals – but this street battle shtick certainly has more of a broad-based gutter appeal, if that’s what we’re going for. Spencer seems to be casting himself as the white MLK, inviting official repression of his reasonableness that will go viral on the web and transform him into a martyr. I did, at least, appreciate the moment when, as the state police are about to close on him, he tells them, “We’re doing this for you.” The temptation of a lot of guys in the movement would have been to yell “Come on, you fat Boomer cucks! Bust a move!” and flip the bird or something; but Spencer is going full Gandhi, collaborating with the ACLU and framing this as the new version of the civil rights movement. We’ll see how it plays out. So far it’s a disaster; but this fringe intellectualism has to connect with the real, political world at some point, and it’s not going to be pretty no matter how it goes down.

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    • icareviews
      August 13, 2017

      Interestingly, Lorenz has deleted yesterday’s tweet about Antifa swarming Fields’s car, but you can still see it here, since people screen-captured it:

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      • Hipster Racist
        August 13, 2017

        @icareviews

        The video clearly shows his car being mobbed by protestors so I assume your take on it is correct. I wasn’t sure if he was an alt-righter and had no idea he was dressed up in costume for the media.

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      • icareviews
        August 13, 2017

        The footage I’ve seen only shows the car being swarmed after the wreck, but Lorenz’s tweet leads me to believe that there was provocation up the street, just before the crash. Either way, it was a bullshit move he pulled, since there was more than enough space between the top of the hill and the people he hit down at the bottom of the street. But, like I said, he probably didn’t have a very cool head at the time.

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    • Hipster Racist
      August 13, 2017

      Spencer is too smart to not understand that MLK and even Gandhi had the world wide media on their side. Spencer has, on more than one occasion, specifically referenced my suggestions that playing to social media is different than playing to the broadcast/mass media (he used my specific terminology in his video after the previous rally and spoke about how they weren’t “wearing costumes” and that they did ok in terms of “youtube videos” and social media.)

      To be effective, all Spencer needs to do is to get young white men, from 16-40, on his side. He is doing “ok” with that, so far, about as good as can be expected. My only criticism is that he’s wasting his particular talents play acting as a “street fighter” – “we” have plenty of dopes to do that sort of thing. Spencer is good for media and he’s best as being a little bit “above it all.” I really just wish he would drop all the stupid trolling and all the “fashy” nonsense and just go full Bob Whitaker pro-white rhetoric wise.

      You want the leadership to be one step “above” the masses – just a little bit better dressed, just a little bit smarter, just a little bit classier. Close enough to the masses that they can still relate, but “above” them enough that they aspire to be you. That’s like social conditioning 101. Honestly I’m just disappointed that Spencer is wasting his unique talents and positions going over the same road. He may wish he’s the White MLK, the reality is he is turning into the new David Duke – i.e., the boogeyman for the Jew media. This was all eminently predictable and Spencer walked right in to it, to the surprise of everyone.

      The worst is that AltRight.com – which is supposed to be a “more right” Breitbart.com – is totally off-key. It’s a bunch of low brow people trying to be high brow which means they really appeal to no one outside of the narrow slice. It’s as if Anglin decided to try to become “mainstream” while still trying to appeal to trolls. That’s just not how it works.

      The medium is the message – and the medium is internet trolling and “taking it to muh streets.” What little content there is is wanna-be highbrow “reactionary” stuff. It would be so much better if Richard Spencer and friends stopped trying to be an intellectual and instead just started bringing Whitaker talking points to the masses: “Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.”

      To be fair, Spencer et al. is about maybe 70% there but it’s been two years and I don’t see anything actually growing at all, outside of Trumpism (which is still pretty good tbh.) Once the Democrats win something in 2-4 years, the GOP will be on the defensive again and Trumpism will be on the wane – will pro-whiteness stick after Trumpism is gone?

      The anti-SJW libertarian “colorblind” stuff is still going strong and it maybe the new mainstream, but white identity hasn’t budged as far as I can tell.

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      • Hipster Racist
        August 14, 2017

        Fuck the whiners – this is why the Alt Right is bullshit:

        http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4786826/Nationalist-FIRED-Twitter-names-shames-protesters.html

        White nationalist is ‘FIRED from his job’ as Twitter names and shames far-right thugs at ‘Unite the Right’ Charlottesville rally that led to protester’s death
        Cole White was identified as one of the alt-right protesters at the violent Unite the Right march on Twitter
        After his employers Top Dog restaurant, in Berkeley, were alerted that White attended the rally, he was fired
        Twitter users are using pictures from the rally to identify participants
        Peter Cvjetanovic, 20, of Reno, was another, and was identified as the angry-looking torch bearer who marched through the University of Virginia on Friday
        He said he’d traveled to the event ‘for the message that white European culture has a right to be here just like every other culture’
        Users are fired up after a white supremacist allegedly drove into counter-protesters at the rally, killing one and injuring 19
        Donald Trump further riled tempers by complaining about ‘hatred, bigotry and violence on many sides’ rather than only slamming the fascists
        Neo-Nazi website The Daily Stormer said that Trump’s remarks were ‘really good’ because there was ‘no condemnation at all,’ adding ‘God bless him’
        The White House later condemned the far-right extremists, but Trump, who has a far-right following, has remained silent

        So we see that the entire Alt Right is being marketed as “fringe” and essentially works to discredit pro-white ideas, as opposed to MAINSTREAMING pro-white ideas. If you complain about the fake “KKK” and the fake “Nationalist Socialist Movement” showing up and waving Nazi flags and doing “Hitler salutes” – you get attacked for “counter-signaling.”

        This is textbook. The message is quite clear: “it’s ok to punch a Nazi and you will get fired from your job if you are pro-white. Pro-white = KKK Nazi.”

        We have 50 yeras of Jews dressing up like “Nazis” and 50 years of the FBI running “KKK” groups – and here we go, the “leader” of the Alt Right is self-described “neo-Nazi” Andrew Anglin, working for the Jew “Weev” and one of the leaders of the alt-right rally, Mike Enoch, when he’s not doing “Hitler salutes” for the Atlantic’s media cameras, he’s having sex with his Jewish wife.

        Spencer had the ability and the credibility to counter this narrative, and instead he has fully embraced it. There are some well meaning but very stupid people who get very excited by the clashes with Antifa and even the violence, but they live in la-la land – they live in a TV fantasy world with no connection to reality.

        The reality – whether people like it or not – is that 95% of white people – even the ones that like Trump – are against “white supremacists” and radicalism in general.

        EVERY TIME there is a growth of pro-white sentiment, the Usual Suspects show up, on cue, waving Nazi flags and otherwise playing (((Hollywood Nazi))) and draw a Hitler mustache on everything. Then, also on cue, the media shows up to point to these actors while punishing the regular well meaning people who just wanted something pro-white.

        Like Charlie Brown and the football, no matter how many times Lucy snatches the ball away Charlie Brown always tries to kick it and falls on his ass – every single time. He NEVER learns.

        Ever since Trump’s election, the message has been LOUD and CLEAR: “Alt Right = neo-Nazi KKK and you can be punched and you WILL be fired from your job if you show up to an Alt Right event.”

        Richard Spencer has NOT been doing anything to counter that message – on the contrary, he has been pushing that narrative harder than anyone.

        “Fool me once, shame on you, can’t get fooled again.” — George W. Bush

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      • bob saffron
        August 14, 2017

        The smart thing to do, as Enoch has mooted in the past, would be to rally support for a white boycott of businesses such as Top Dog and the hotels and venues who cancelled bookings. Jews have been successful with such tactics.

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      • Hipster Racist
        August 14, 2017

        @bob saffron

        I promote boycotts every chance I get.

        White men built the internet. It’s the one place where we have some kind of semi-anonymous speech. It’s where we can organize both openly, but also in a sense privately. It’s our own media platform that rivals the broadcast media platforms.

        Picking a corporate target, isolating it, boycotting it – a great strategy, one that would put the fear of Whitey into many more companies and would scare them off from anti-white activities. It puts the focus where it should be – anti-whites – as opposed to historical fetishism and radicalism.

        Is anyone doing that? Nope. Instead the entire Alt Right movement is focused on:

        1) Exposing as many interested white people to backlash and exposure by holding purposefully off-putting public rallies complete with Nazi flags and designed specifically to encourage anti-fa violence (with, let’s notice, the active participation of the police force – also notice that the Alt Right leaders are in constant contact with the police in preparation for these events.)

        2) Using the internet platform to spew reactionary bullshit as opposed to organizing to counter anti-whites and promote pro-whiteness.

        I’ve never really called myself “Alt Right” – I’m a liberal. The “Alt Right” has been nothing but Spencer’s personal brand. Spencer was awesome – totally winning – back in 2015. Since Trump won, Spencer has been a drag on pro-whiteness. I don’t know how many times the fake “neo-Nazi” Jews can be exposed before people started to put 2 and 2 together. You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make him think.

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      • bob saffron
        August 14, 2017

        Conversely, businesses singled out for diversity heresy can and should be patronized by whites.
        http://www.theroot.com/texas-restaurant-owner-finds-out-what-happens-when-you-1791329968

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  5. icareviews
    August 13, 2017

    Richard Spencer called out RamZPaul on Twitter for counter-signaling the Alt-Right. Your take on that?

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    • Hipster Racist
      August 13, 2017

      In his video too – Spencer had his feelings hurt when RamZPaul said he was no longer calling himself “alt right” – he was just calling himself “the right” because he was mainstream now that Trump won. That is EXACTLY what Andrew Anglin said too, yet Spencer embraces Anglin while trashing RamZPaul.

      Spencer cucked when Anglin called him a “faggot” for two years and when he finally won the love of the (((Daily Stormer))) he went full 4chan and started attacking normal pro-white people like RamZPaul. I guess he thinks he gets some mileage because RamZPaul is a hate figure among the (((Daily Stormer))) crowd for predicting – correctly – that they were publishing Jewish propaganda. Within 6 months of the infamous RamZPaul video, (((Joshua Goldberg))) was arrested. Just try to bring up (((Joshua Goldberg))) in context and you’ll simply be removed from Alt Right platforms – they simply do not want people to be reminded that the major Alt Right platforms literally publish Jewish propagandists pretending to be “neo-Nazis.” It goes hand in hand with Mike “Jew Wife” Enoch too, doesn’t it?

      I’m not exactly sure what the full implications of that are, but I can guess. RamZPaul – like Jared Taylor – has always said “they look hu-white to me” – while nevertheless spending half of his video time attacking anti-White Jews and their double standards.

      Meanwhile, Anglin and Enoch posture as “hard core neo-Nazis” yet actually are partners with “neo-Nazi Jews” behind the scenes. Anglin’s manager is (((Weev))) and Enoch is *literally in bed* with a left-wing anti-white Jewess. I mean, it is what it is, isn’t it? What else is there to say?

      Spencer and RamZPaul are exactly the same on the Jewish problem, which is maybe why Spencer is desperate to distance himself from Paul. I have lost a huge amount of respect for Spencer over that, frankly. Spencer literally cucked to Andrew Anglin – what does that tell us? After Heimbach’s crowd spent literally TWO YEARS spreading the most vile and nasty rumors about Spencer – even saying that he was molesting little boys – now Spencer’s hugging him. WTF is that all about?

      I think Spencer thinks he’s going to let by-gones be by-gones and be a “leader” – but it looks to me that it’s Andrew Anglin that is the leader, and Spencer is the follower. That is literally what Anglin is claiming, and from all accounts it looks like Anglin is correct. Spencer will attack RamZPaul all day long but he won’t dare to breathe even the slightest bit of criticism of Anglin.

      That means Anglin is the “top” and Spencer is the “bottom.” Fascinating.

      Just look at the picture – I think it’s an accurate indication of what is going on.

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      • bob saffron
        August 14, 2017

        Challenger sales set to rise.

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      • Craig
        August 14, 2017

        Spencer could make a come back like Trump. By agreeing and amplifying one part of the SPLC and ADL operations. Which is deradicalisation. Don’t know how that would work out though as Obama passed laws that if you expose intel operations, even on the internet, you get to face a max term of 10 years imprisonment. So need to be ahead of the ball, if going down that path.

        You see the Extremists, that the LARPing Nazi’s try to create and sometimes successfully do, need much of the deradicalization program, which costs the fed gov more dollars… Which goes to the ADL and SPLC Nexus. Makes you go hhmmm huh?

        Hence why we have mummy psychologists on the internet promoting radicalism, then offering deradicalization techniques along with mentoring… For $100/hour of course.

        Not a bad racket eh.

        It’s a multi-faceted soft war at the moment, to win this soft war we need to cut the anti-whites revenue streams.

        So this would make sense on a moral, economic, and propaganda front.

        Perhaps the alt-right nexus could be convinced to take it up. Maybe introduce the Idea’s via the alt-lite and other members of the sane alt-right.

        In essence though it’s exposing the Jew, using his own weapons against him. What’s not to like? 10 years though, man they suck.

        See I’m no totally crazy. 🙂

        Other then that, the MSM is DESPERATE and AFRAID. They have shut down all comments on the MSM sites I visit, to stop those alternative dreaded facts coming out in the comment section. As well facebook seems to be messing with algorithms, so I can’t comment on progressive narrative sites, which is weird. It’s a new strategy on the Internets, trying to isolate us from the normies. Stopping the mind virus in other words.

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      • icareviews
        August 16, 2017

        “Spencer literally cucked to Andrew Anglin”

        Wait, you mean to tell me Anglin actually scored a home run with that buxom Putinist agent?

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      • Sam J.
        August 18, 2017

        If Daily Stormer is Jew run and their Nazi tactics are supposed to discredit Whites I’m not so sure this will work anymore. Many people will be drawn to Nazi stuff, not all but some. They will eventually learn the truth of the situation and it will not help the Jews. The other problem the Jews have is they have so coarsened the morals of the society that “Nazis” pheee…who cares. Nazis are clean well dressed people compared to some in the culture now.

        Yes it may look bad in the short term but I’m not so sure it matters.

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      • Hipster Racist
        August 19, 2017

        @Sam J

        The Hollywood Nazi gimmick has been going on for 50 years and it’s always failed.

        It has even LESS of a chance of working now than it did 50 years ago. I mean, even if people learned “the truth” about the “Nazis” and decided they were right about everything … what is going to happen? It’s still LARPing and historical fetishism. The social context that fascism was born in doesn’t exist anymore.

        So let’s say all of a sudden people realize that Thomas Jefferson was right – are we all going to don powdered wigs and start spelling words with “s” with an “f” and parade around in the streets with muskets or something?

        “Nazis are clean well dressed people compared to some in the culture now.”

        Historical fetishism. The only people interested in dressing up like Nazis are a) FBI and Jews and b) gay men with a leather fetish.

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      • Hipster Racist
        August 19, 2017

        “Many people will be drawn to Nazi stuff, not all but some”

        A tiny minority of CRANKS are drawn to “Nazi stuff.”

        People trying to convince me that there is EVER going to be any significant “resurgence” of “Nazi stuff” are either liars or idiots – full stop. It’s an insult to anyone’s intelligence to believe that in 2017 America, “Nazi stuff” is ever going to be anything more than a fringe of homosexuals who are aroused by Huge Boss uniforms.

        I mean FFS – “Nazi” itself is a slur, it’s like saying “many people will be drawn to the Libtard stuff, we should start a Libtard revivial.”

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      • Sam J.
        August 18, 2017

        I might add I think it’s not productive to attack anyone on the right. For Dylann Roof. The only thing that needed saying about him was he was driven mad by the attacks on Whites by Blacks and snapped. No other moral posturing need be added.

        I do understand your Jewish Nazi LARPing point and I’m not sure exactly what to do about this without attacking the right.

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      • Hipster Racist
        August 19, 2017

        How in the world is Dylann Roof “to the right?” He was a kid who was “not racist” who hung out with his black friends and wasn’t political at all. He was apparently introduced to very hard core drugs like LSD and then supposedly went insane and shot a bunch of people.

        How is any of that “right wing” in any way?

        Are you suggesting that murder is “right wing” and that, what, not murdering people is “left wing?” Good luck selling that to the public.

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  6. bob saffron
    August 14, 2017

    My heart sunk when I heard Enoch mentioning the ACLU collaboration in securing the permit.

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  7. indravaruna
    August 14, 2017

    My own view of things is that even with Trump election little is gonna change in politics, media narrative, foreign policy,..

    I’m not a “collapsenik” but I can see major political violence in the US and Europe in the next decade (2020s), this is where the change will come, good or bad, all the terrorist attacks and riots we’re seeing now are just preview for what is coming.

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  8. bob saffron
    August 14, 2017

    President Trump issues executive order that Hipster Racist not go on vacation to avoid civil unrest.

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  9. eyeslevel
    August 14, 2017

    The event showed beyond any doubt that pro-whites do not have free speech and that they desperately need better chants.

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  10. eyeslevel
    August 14, 2017

    From a Facebook comment:

    That’s a key point: The state charged with keeping order and physically protecting everyone STANDS DOWN to let the anti-whites cause mayhem and violence. Then they say “Gee gosh there’s all this violence. We’re going to have to shut down your speech.” How they carried it out was really ham-handed and blatant. The police were obviously following a script with a timetable. They shut down Spencer right on cue even though he was no threat whatsoever to public safety.

    Bob [Whitaker] wrote about this many times, how violence and the threat of violence is used to selectively shut down OUR speech. This is how democracies with supposed civil rights are carefully managed to prevent anything that would really hurt the ruling oligarchy from getting out.

    Of course, we never go to THEIR rallies to cause trouble and prevent them from getting their message out.

    The money quote from the ACLU:

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    • Sam J.
      August 18, 2017

      “…The state charged with keeping order and physically protecting everyone STANDS DOWN…”

      It’s worse than that. They actively intervened to push the right into the left. They also refused to arrest people who stayed. They gassed them and pushed them into the left.

      It would have been good if on the way out they rallied the guys with shields to push on ONE side of the street. Left or right and push the antifa into the street. Shields to push with the flagpole guys behind the shields poking them back away. Exactly like the traditional workers party came in. They did a great job of this except they went down the middle. To lower your exposure they need to be against a wall.

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  11. eyeslevel
    August 14, 2017

    RamZPaul is mostly wrong. He basically says we shouldn’t do anything because the SPLC might send someone in to our rallies to sieg heil and that would make us look bad. He said our message has to be reasonable. He doesn’t get that it’s our job to impose terminology, talking points and narratives to redefine what is reasonable. That’s how you take power. Of course at first it’s not going to sound reasonable because we’re dealing with heavily brainwashed people. The goal is to undo that brainwashing. No one cares that our civil rights were violated? That’s propaganda gold, man! That discredits our enemies bigly.

    I’m encouraged that many AltRighters are framing this as a civil rights issue. That means they’re catching on to the fact that this is a propaganda war and you always have to take the moral high ground.

    Spencer needs to get on message better but so do 95% of pro-whites. Enoch has come a long way fast at getting on message. He uses our stuff all the time.

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    • Hipster Racist
      August 14, 2017

      That’s not what he’s saying at all. Maybe Enoch is coming along and starting to use the right rhetoric, but Paul has always been using the right rhetoric consistently.

      All of the pro-white rhetoric DOES come across as reasonable the very first time you hear it. When I first read the Mantra, it immediately came across as reasonable to me. “Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white” immediately came across as completely sensible and finally explained something that everyone already “knew” but hard a hard time putting into words. The only part of the Mantra that is hard to swallow at first is the “white genocide” part – and Whitaker himself not only acknowledged that but said that it was important that people have to get used to that.

      I really don’t care how many kids think the (((Daily Stormer))) is funny – there is nothing pro-white about the (((Daily Stormer))) – they spend most of their time attacking half of the white race and the other half of their time playing (((Hollywood))) bad guys for shits and giggles. They are the opposite of taking the high road, in fact, their entire shtick is “they are going to call us low-road so we may as well take the low-road. The fact that it’s a) run by a Jewish felon b) spent a year publishing a SITE propagandist and c) associates with a comically obvious FBI front tells us all we need to know.

      Pro-white is normal. 95% of white people are ALREADY pro-white. What do you think people mean when they say “liberals are the real racists” or talk about “racism against white people?” They ARE expressing the Mantra talking points but aren’t as clear about how the propaganda works and don’t realize that the anti-white slur word “racist” needs to be discredited.

      Being pro-white is the most natural and normal thing in the world. Discrediting anti-white rhetoric is job number one. The Alt Right has mostly stopped doing that and is instead posturing as “radical.”

      But there is nothing radical about white people being pro-white.

      The reason RamZPaul is being attacked is precisely BECAUSE he is exposing that “anti-racism” is a scam:

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      • Sam J.
        August 18, 2017

        That was very, very , very, very persuasive. The biggest deficit in this program is…there’s really no program at all until things get so bad they can’t be turned around. We’re close to this point now. We also must take into account the Jews. The Jews have gotten where they’ve gotten by being aggressive. Very aggressive. We need to find a way to push aggressive behavior in a positive direction.

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    • Hipster Racist
      August 14, 2017

      @eyeslevel

      I know you guys like deconstructing old Soviet propaganda. Well I knew a guy who served in the Soviet army. He was Jewish, incidentally.

      I was asking him about this kind of propaganda and he just laughed at me like I was missing the obvious, which I was. They even had a name for it: “The Enemy Face.” The modern term I use is “painting a Hitler mustache on everything pro-white” which is the same thing.

      I recall a famous interview of a British woman who was involved in the BNP, she scoffed and said, “this has nothing to do with bleeding Hitler, we are British people and we are patriotic British citizens.”

      I’m an American, I’m white and I’m pro-white. There is nothing “radical” or “edgy” about being pro-white. The radicals are the anti-whites. The radicals are the anti-white regime in Charlottesville that attack pro-whites. The radicals are the Antiwhite Antifa that throw bricks at people and their paymasters in the $PLC and the ADL.

      Average everyday white people that are NOT a part of the “Alt Right” get it perfectly – that is why they say “Antifa are the REAL fascists.” The only reason anyone would object to that statement is if they have some sort of fetish for the historical fascism regimes in Europe from the last century. In other words, LARPers no different that the people pretending to be Crusaders Knights from the 1300s and dressing up for the Renaissance festivals. It may be fun to play dress up on Halloween but what does any of that have to do with being pro-white in 2017? Nothing at all.

      Pro-white IS mainstream and anti-white IS fringe. The people who are desperate to turn pro-whiteness into something fringe are not pro-white, obviously.

      In 1960 the average white American was openly pro-white and didn’t hesitate for a second to say so. It took 50 years of TV brainwashing to get people to be hesitant about being openly pro-white. So why would anyone play along with the anti-white propaganda? To ask the question is to answer it.

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      • eyeslevel
        August 14, 2017

        I’ve never spent any time deconstructing Soviet propganda but I spend a LOT of time deconstructing anti-white propaganda.

        If you’re serious about taking power you never ever ever affirm your enemy’s weaponized terms, talking points or narratives. Have you ever heard a lefty say “Republicans are the REAL Communists!” -? Communists were objectively far worse than Nazis. Communists had to shoot escapees in peacetime. Lefties don’t affirm their enemy’s narratives because they know how power works.

        Sure anti-whites CALL anyone pro-white a Nazi. That’s why we say anti-Nazi is a code word for anti-white. Most of the terms anti-whites use have objective dictionary meanings, but anti-whites never use them like that. When anti-whites use these terms they’re always obfuscations, squid ink to hide their hatred of one group of people, white people. These terms **AS THE ANTI-WHITES USE THEM** have to be demolished, obliterated, discredited, delegitimized -NEVER AFFIRMED.

        Sure LARPing is dumb but most people oppose it for the wrong reason. They are implicitly agreeing that Nazis/KKK whatever were the most evil people who ever existed. LARPing is dumb because it doesn’t discredit the anti-white system and it doesn’t deprogram anybody.

        Anyone opposed to white genocide is a Naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews? That’s why anti-Nazi is a code word for anti-white.

        I’m a Nazi? You’re only saying that because I’m a white person who doesn’t hate white kids. Anti-Nazi is a code word for anti-white.

        Anti-whites are always trying to make false associations.

        I know anti-white propaganda is effective because America has gone from 90% white to ~60% white and white people haven’t been pro-white enough to stop that. They’re afraid of being called names like Nazi, racist, supremacist. They need something to say and it needs to be drilled into them through repetition. The Soviet propaganda must have been effective too because the Communists were in power until Bob Whitaker taught Samizdat to repeat “Why does a workers’ paradise have to shoot escapees?”

        See my article “Tackling Hate”

        http://www.whitakeronline.org/blog/2016/03/17/tackling-hate/

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      • Hipster Racist
        August 14, 2017

        @eyeslevel

        You don’t discredit the anti-white slur “nazi” by saying “yes I’m a nazi.” You don’t discredit the anti-white slur “nazi” by dressing up like the NSDAP and waving around a swastika flag. You don’t discredit the anti-white slur “nazi” by saying “they are going to call us nazis anyway so we may as well be nazis.” Donald Trump gets called “Hitler” everday, I don’t see Trump saying “they are going to call me Hitler so I may as well be Hitler!”

        ALL “Neo-Nazis” are anti-white.

        If being a “Nazi” were an effective pro-white tactic, then the $SPLC/ADL/FBI wouldn’t have spent the last 50 years paying people to dress up like nazis and wave around swastika flags.

        This is not complicated at all.

        Some anti-whites are “right wing” and there are a lot of anti-whites in leadership positions in the “alt right.” I’m not “alt-right” – I’m Pro-White.

        The more time the “Alt Right” spends playing dress up with Anti Fa the less time they spend discrediting anti-white propaganda.

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      • eyeslevel
        August 14, 2017

        @Hipster

        We’re mostly in agreement. Does everyone who waves a star and sickle want to murder 100 million people? If you asked actual card carrying members of the NSDAP if they wanted to homicidally gas six million Jews, most of them would have said “no.” But anti-whites say anyone who doesn’t hate white kids wants to kill six million Jews. They are making a false association.

        Pro-whites’ failure has not been due to their costumes, it’s been due to their lack of effective talking points. If a costume attracts a microphone and you repeat a consistent, effective message into that microphone, I would say maybe not ideal but pretty good. Anti-whites obviously don’t care about their appearance but they always have effective talking points. And yes, most LARPers don’t have effective talking points and that needs to change.

        No you don’t argue about whether you’re a Nazi AS ANTI-WHITES USE THE TERM any more than you would argue about whether you’re a heretic.

        We’ll never know what Spencer would have said because THE POLICE DIDN’T ALLOW HIM TO SPEAK. They must have thought there was a pretty good chance he was going to say something effective, something that discredits the anti-white system.

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      • Hipster Racist
        August 14, 2017

        @eyeswide

        When “normies” say “Antifa are the REAL fascists” they are getting close to the truth but are missing something. It would be more accurate to say “Neo-Nazis are the REAL Antifa.” That is literally true – not metaphorically true, literally true.

        ALL “neo-Nazis” are fake, ALL of them, 100% of them. There is no such thing as a “real neo-Nazi.” This is a fact that can be verified by the historical record. The first “neo-Nazi” was George Lincoln Rockwell, who was an FBI collarborator managed by an anti-White Jew. Rockwell did everything he could to discredit the pro-White cause and to undermine pro-White sentiment during the 1960s – that is why the anti-White media made Rockwell a celebrity and why he was mythologized in songs by anti-Whites like Bob Dylan. Rockwell was a White anti-White and suffered the typical fate of a traitor, because he was one. When he was no longer useful to the FBI and the anti-Whites, he was disposed of by one of his own.

        I know people don’t like to hear it but sometimes people have to face the facts.

        You once pointed out that there are only two ways to respond to an effective meme – either to ignore it or to spread it. “Neo-Nazis are the REAL Anti-Fa” is an effective meme because it’s true. It’s another version of the meme “the emperor has no clothes.” This is EXACTLY why regular “normie” White people don’t like “neo-Nazis” – because they understand intuitively that “neo-Nazis are the REAL Antifa.” They get confused about the details and they don’t quite understand the specifics, but they understand it on a deep and subconscious level. It comes out muddled, as “liberals are the real racists” or “antifa are the real fascists” but what they really mean, what they are reacting to subconsciously is their realization that “neo-Nazis are the REAL Antifa.”

        It’s far easier to fight an honest enemy than a dishonest traitor which is why this simple message, “neo-Nazis are the REAL Antifa” is so hard for people to accept and it’s why the traitors get so angry and freak out so much when you mention it. Obviously, the traitors do not want to be exposed.

        It’s simply a fact that many, if not most, of the “leaders” of the “Alt Right” are traitors.

        RamZPaul is a hate figure because he CORRECTLY pointed out that “neo-Nazis are the REAL Antifa” and he was PROVEN correct within six months. It’s why the “neo-Nazis” – who are anti-White – spend more time attacking RamZPaul and other White people than they do discrediting anti-White talking points. Traitors don’t like being exposed, obviously.

        Donald Trump just came out an denounced “white supremacists” and, once again, distanced himself from the “Alt Right.” The only reason that Trump was able to do that is because the “neo-Nazis who are the REAL Antifa” showed up in Charlottesville to help the anti-Whites discredit and demoralize pro-Whites.

        It’s not Donald Trump that the anti-Whites hate – it’s the White people that voted for Donald Trump that they hate. RamZPaul is an old guy who saw the same thing happen in the 70s and 80s with Reagan. The anti-Whites didn’t hate Reagan, they hated the White people that voted for Reagan. So the “neo-Nazis” showed up to co-opt all that pro-White sentiment and to turn it into a fringe phenomenon.

        I’m not as old as RamZPaul but I’ve seen this happen now TWICE in the last decade. 10 years ago a supposed pro-White “activist” showed up, spent six months building up some credibility by doing some pro-White things and was turned into a celebrity by the media, then the SECOND the cameras were on him, changed into a “neo-Nazi” overnight.

        Two years ago Richard Spencer pulled off a massive victory for the pro-White cause by holding an openly, unapologetically pro-White rally in 2015. He almostly single handedly turned pro-Whiteness mainstream. He had the ear of mainstream GOP politicians and the emerging Trump campaign. His “movement” was profiled in Breitbart.com, thanks to the help of RamZPaul.

        Then, the very SECOND that Trump won and the “Alt Right” was no longer needed, the “neo-Nazis” staged an event to give Trump an excuse to denounce the “Alt Right” which he of course did. There were plenty of “Alt Right” people that collaborated with the anti-White media to bring this about. This is now all on the public record, the people have been exposed as fakes, arrests were made, and the charade continues.

        It’s all easily predictable and in fact was predicted by people like RamZPaul and myself, and we were proven completely correct by events. We are both on the record describing exactly what was going to happen, who was going to do it, and what the result would be, and we were right. Which is why we’re persona non-grata and are constantly attacked (and censored) from the Alt Right.

        I’m not “Alt Right” I’m pro-White. “Neo-Nazis are the REAL Antifa” – take that to the bank. Wait six months and I will be proven right yet AGAIN. It’s not at all because I’m some sort of psychic, it’s just because I’m not completely brain-dead.

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      • Hipster Racist
        August 14, 2017

        @eyeswide

        “THE POLICE DIDN’T ALLOW HIM TO SPEAK.”

        I’ve been a fan of Richard Spencer for going on a decade, but that’s not particularly true. Spencer is a media celebrity but he only gets publicity when he says something or does something that is NOT effective at discrediting the anti-white system. When he says something that helps the anti-white system, he gets a LOT of media coverage.

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      • eyeslevel
        August 14, 2017

        @Hipster

        Most things that are true don’t discredit anti-whites. Neo-Nazis are the real antifa doesn’t discredit anti-whites. I’d rather spend my time going after anti-whites than neo-nazis. It’s a matter of priorities.

        “Never affirm your enemy’s terms, talking points or narratives” is a hard rule. If you are violating it, you’re doing it wrong.

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      • Hipster Racist
        August 14, 2017

        @eyeswide

        “Neo-Nazis” ARE anti-White. By going after “neo-Nazis” I am going after anti-Whites.

        “Never affirm your enemy’s terms, talking points or narratives” is a hard rule. If you are violating it, you’re doing it wrong.”

        Suggesting that “neo-Nazis” are pro-White *IS* affirming the enemy’s terms. Anti-whites say “Pro-White is Nazi KKK” – and not coincidentally, that is exactly what the neo-Nazis says as well. In fact, the neo-Nazis always say that they are the only “real pro-Whites.” Neo-Nazis and Anti-Fa both agree 100%.

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      • eyeslevel
        August 14, 2017

        @Hipster

        Someone who calls himself or is called by someone else a “Neo-Nazi” could be pro-white or anti-white. If you claim such a person is automatically anti-white because he makes us look bad, then you are affirming the anti-white narrative and you are indeed doing it wrong.

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      • Hipster Racist
        August 14, 2017

        @eyeswide

        I didn’t say “they make us look bad” as if they are well meaning pro-whites but just have bad tactics. I said neo-Nazis are anti-white. That is literally true. If you say that neo-Nazis are pro-White but that they might “scare away the normies” than you are affirming the anti-white narrative and are doing it wrong.

        All anti-Whites say that all pro-Whites are secretly “neo-Nazis” but some are just “better at optics” than others. The neo-Nazis ALSO say that all pro-Whites are secretly “neo-Nazis” but some are just “too worried about optics.”

        100% of the time anti-Whites and neo-Nazis agree, because they are the same people. Neo-Nazis are the real Anti-Fa. That’s not metaphorically true, that is literally true.

        Normal White people don’t like neo-Nazis for the exact same reason that they don’t like anti-Whites. Normal White people – the vast majority – are pro-White. It’s perfectly normal and natural to take your own side. For a White person to be pro-White is to be pro-your own family and pro-your own people. You know better than anyone that it’s not normal for a White person to be anti-White.

        The fact we are even having this conversation proves exactly what I am saying. Why in the world would this even be an issue? It’s 2017, in America, and anti-whiteness is everywhere, in the media, in the universities, in the government. Yet white people can’t even take their own side in an argument precisely because anti-whites – and neo-nazis – say “to be pro-white is to be a nazi kkk.”

        Donald Trump just today gave a speech denouncing “racists” and “white supremacists” and “neo-nazis” and “the KKK” – on nationwide live TV. Why in the world would Donald Trump do such a thing, considering that ALL of the violence in Charlottesville was started by the anti-whites? Trump didn’t mention Antifa, the “official” anti-White group. Instead he mentioned the “neo-Nazis” and the implication was CLEAR that the “neo-Nazis” were supposedly “pro-White.”

        But that is not at all true, it’s a lie. ALL neo-Nazis are anti-White, neo-Nazis are the real anti-Fa.

        If it were NOT true, then why have the anti-White groups like the $PLC and the ADL and the FBI spent 50 years dressing up as neo-Nazis and pretending to be pro-White? If “some neo-Nazis” are pro-White, who are they? Name a single one in the last 50 years? Because ALL neo-Nazis in the USA and Canada have been anti-White and ALL of them have been astroturf groups in the employ of anti-Whites. All of them, without exception.

        How many times can Lucy snatch the football away before Charlie Brown gets it?

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      • Sam J.
        August 19, 2017

        I get both your points. From what I’ve heard there was only one guy with a Nazi flag at the rally at Char. yet all we get is Nazi, Nazi, Nazi. So going on about Nazis on the right seems a waste of time to me. Shouldn’t anyone on the alt-right just say they are paid infiltrators every time they are asked?

        RamzPauls advice is very wise yet lacks any practical advice on how to carry forward at all. If the media is owned by the Jews, it is, then any interaction with them is bound to be biased but unless you get out there then you’re not really heard at all. The long term result of the media crying Nazi, Nazi, Nazi is just the same as chicken little crying wolf. It’s not really true. It discredits the media. There’s no way to show this short of allowing normies to see for themselves that they’re lying. To do so you have to be out there. What may be bad in the short term is not necessarily bad in the long. If every time we went anywhere we pointed out that the Nazi flag wavers are paid by the Jews it would help. You would rarely hear it on the news but it would get out.

        By the way I’m getting cross-site scripting errors on the site. Browser log.

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        The last line refers to.

        https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/Errors/Property_access_denied?utm_source=mozilla&utm_medium=firefox-console-errors&utm_campaign=default

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      • CatInTheHat
        August 19, 2017

        Hey Hipster,

        This is a great discussion.

        “neo-Nazis are the REAL Antifa”

        This is true and you said it so well. Now I know why I’ve always hated them. I wish RamZPaul would say it as simply and clearly as you did, instead generalizing about White Nationalists. Painting WN with a broad brush, is why I instinctively don’t trust him either.

        And something no one has mentioned about the Nazis, is the anti-Whites are shit scared of them. Nazis are the only group they are scared of. Everyone else is under their thumb.

        Also Bob Whitaker never ran from Nazis. He just tried to get them to use our talking points like anyone else. He said when the enemy has his foot on your neck and your life is ebbing away, you aren’t going to be fussy about where help comes from.

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      • CatInTheHat
        August 19, 2017

        Another one from Ole Bob went something like:

        Do you have to be a Nazi to be against White Genocide?
        Are Nazis the only ones who are against White Genocide?

        I can’t remember it exactly but it was along those lines.

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  12. indravaruna
    August 14, 2017

    Seriously, the Jewish elite must be laughing their asses off right now, antifa faggots and some Nazi LARPers beating each other for nothing. You’re right 14 days from now and everything will be forgotten.

    When these people will attack the elite and their institutions and not each other? Occupy Wall Street was a good idea because actually confronted the ruling class, we need go after the legacy media, Neocon oligarchs, Wall Street, the military industrial complex, hit the elite where it hurts.

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  13. ct
    August 14, 2017

    I have little time to check this in full, but there is this thread about who drove that car: http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/137171651

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    • Sam J.
      August 19, 2017

      That guy in the picture driving the car DOESN’T look like the guy they showed as arrested. His face is far shorter. There’s a thread off that thread where someone says that the guy driving the car was hustled into to black government looking cars and that he was not the same person they arrested. Of course it’s just some post may be all lies. Even the picture may be photoshop.

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  14. BMan
    August 14, 2017

    @hipsterracist
    This is textbook. The message is quite clear: “it’s ok to punch a Nazi and you will get fired from your job if you are pro-white. Pro-white = KKK Nazi.”

    It couldn’t be clearer and such an old trick that I believe that spencer, et al are i on the scam.

    I wouldn’t trust a single word from Andre Anglin or the ‘low brow’ idiots that think he is real.

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    • bob saffron
      August 14, 2017

      Good at dishing it out, but careful never to get it in his eyes, that acid.

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  15. eyeslevel
    August 14, 2017

    There are calls for President Trump to clarify his position on Charlottesville. I agree. Mr. President, do pro-whites have a right to speak in public? Will you protect the civil rights of people who don’t hate white kids? Do you condemn all groups trying to violently shut down free speech and will you investigate and prosecute such groups? Isn’t it clear that the only group being denied their right to be heard is pro-whites? Will you investigate the City of Charlottesville and the State of Virginia for civil rights violations?

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  16. eyeslevel
    August 14, 2017

    Charlottesville is our Battleship Potemkin.

    We are martyred for eternity.

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  17. eyeslevel
    August 14, 2017

    I never saw anyone say everything Black Lives Matters stands for is discredited because one of its members murdered 5 police officers in Dallas.

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  18. guest
    August 14, 2017

    I don’t think the right should protest at all, ever.
    What are the chances the statue will stay now, 0?

    Dems are the real racis’ and it’s antifa who’s violent! lol

    Charlottesville is what Free Northerner talked about:

    “Everybody knows inherently that activism is left-wing. It is democratic, liberal activity. It’s the only way the word has ever been used. There is no right activism. Right activism is nonsense.”

    “The right needs to avoid activism, as it further legitimizes liberal democracy, which is antithetical to right order, tradition, and right authority.

    If you want to take action, then take right-wing action. Write anti-democratic political tracts that delegitimatize liberalism. Build order in your communities. Build institutions and/or gain power in them. Gain legitimacy and authority through action.”

    Demonstrating itself is left wing activism.
    You can’t beat the left at their own game.

    And to quote Aurini: “We live in an age where you cannot use the tools of violence without serving the enemy. Every sword is a boomerang, turning back upon yourself.”

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    • Hipster Racist
      August 14, 2017

      @guest

      At this point I say let the Alt Right dress up and play with the Anti Fa. I get to counter signal them both and be the reasonable moderate centrist.

      I’m neither “Alt Right” nor “Anti Fa” – I’m pro-white.

      I am the reasonable one who is against extremists on both sides. I don’t care if an extremist anti-white is “Right Wing” or “Left Wing” – they are both anti-whiet to me.

      Now that Spencer has decided to play second fiddle to Anglin and clown for the media, I get to counter signal him and his anti-fa dance partners as two sides of the same coin. I’m mainstream and the majority of Americans agree with me.

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    • Hipster Racist
      August 15, 2017

      @guest

      I think that FreeNorthener essay and some of the comments is really great and worth thinking about the difference between “activism” and “passivism” and “action.” Although I don’t buy into the anti-democratic and “right wing” aspects of it, there is something to be said about avoiding public “activism” and instead building institutions. It is true that there is something automatically “left wing” about various forms of “activism” and “appeals to the crowd.”

      One of the reasons the “establishment” runs things is because they build institutions “behind the scenes” out of sight and the average Joe Public can’t even perceive when they apply pressure, when they exercise their power, to make something happen.

      That is, in fact, how “conspiracy theories” happen – because average Joe Public has never done any institutional analysis thus can’t understand when things happen outside of public view, so he automatically thinks “conspiracy.”

      He’s right in the sense it is a “conspiracy” but all institutions are “conspiratorial” to a certain degree, that’s the point.

      Which is why I said White advocates should just join the Freemasons to get an understanding of how applying power via institutions out of the public eye works.

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  19. smartwhiteguy
    August 14, 2017

    Something to lighten the mood:

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  20. Felix
    August 14, 2017

    As someone who was on the fence about a lot of these topics discussed, this event was clarifying for me and many on the right. I think you will see a large number of people on the alt-right openly reject all nazi larping, symbols and rhetoric going forward. They will have to aggressively weed out those elements, which are not that many anyhow. As Vox Day pointed out, the Social Democrats in Sweden became the 3rd largest political party once it dropped nazi symbols etc. Another splintering is coming on the right that should kick the nazi larpers out of the alt-right tent.

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    • Hipster Racist
      August 14, 2017

      @Felix

      I hope you are right, but in the last few years the opposite has been happening. In 2015, Richard Spencer’s “Alt Right” was 100% openly pro-White and had nothing to do with Costume Clowning and anti-white groups like the “NSM.” Now the Alt Right is increasingly embracing the NSM.

      In 2010, there was another ostensibly “pro-White” activist that appeared on the scene and was completely normal and pro-White. Then, once he got media attention, he turned on a dime and became a stereotypical “neo-Nazi.” He is now considered a “leader” of the Alt Right.

      “Maybe this time Lucy won’t snatch the football away.” — Charlie Brown.

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      • guest
        August 14, 2017

        >ALL “neo-Nazis” are fake, ALL of them, 100% of them

        Like the KKK, there are so few they all fit in one motel, there are more articles on the Internet about the KKK than there are actual members, half of whom are FBI agents, they must hire actors when they do documentaries on the KKK.

        Yet the media reports like you can find the KKK in every saloon across middle America. While in actuality they only exist as straw men for the media to beat.

        But if you watch 6 hours of TV a day you may just believe it.

        All you hear from the MSM is now kkk white racis white right white supreme ad infinitum and beyond, i can’t decide if that’s good or bad?

        Maybe good, when you no longer have to draw a swastika on your forehead to be bad, when your white skin alone is the mark of the beast.

        Admit it honky, you are white!

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      • Hipster Racist
        August 14, 2017

        @guest

        Last year Richard Spencer made a speech at Texas A&M University. It was a pretty good speech, Spencer did really well in front of a very hostile audience. Spencer came across as the “normal one” facing off against a bunch of freaks and weirdos and haters.

        But of course you never saw anything from Spencer’s speech in the media coverage of the event, with the exception of a single frame of Spencer with his mouth open and his hand up, looking “angry” like he was yelling. They must have literally went through the entire video frame-by-frame in order to find that one half-second shot of him.

        On the other hand a (((Daily Stormer))) celebrity called “Azzmodor” was given massive media coverage. “Azzmodor” wasn’t allowed into the speech, so he immediately ran to the media, set up in front of them, and started performing, complete with “Hitler salutes” and a long speech about “the Holocaust.”

        Spencer didn’t mention “Hitler” or “the Holocaust” at any time during his speech, so instead the media chose to make “Azzmodor” the star of the event, and of course “Azzmodor” played his role to the hilt.

        Both the anti-White “left” and the anti-White “right” want “Azzmodor” to be the face of pro-whiteness. The Jewish anti-White media and the anti-White (((Daily Stormer))) work together, hand in hand, to make that happen. They are literally parnters. No one is being “tricked” here – the media is not “tricked” into thinking that “Azzmodor” is a legitimate pro-white spokesman and “Azzmodor” and the (((Daily Stormer))) are not “manipulated” by the media.

        They are partners; they work together, they are are the same side. They coordinate with each other, the cameraman tells “Azzmodor” which way to stand and which side to put in front of the camera and “Azzmodor” complies; “Azzmodor” speaks the lines that the cameraman asks him to.

        This really isn’t a complicated phenomenon.

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  21. eyeslevel
    August 14, 2017

    Enoch mostly on message here. Note the Orwellian sheep from Animal Farm about halfway through trying to drown out our right to be heard. The purpose of the anti-whites at this event was not to debate or refute us or offer a different viewpoint. Their purpose was to PREVENT US FROM BEING HEARD.

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  22. guest
    August 14, 2017

    A commenter on the market-ticker:

    “Though I was not personally involved, I know some details that aren’t currently being reported, but will come to light soon enough.

    First, Unite the Right acquired a permit from the City of Charlottesville to hold their rally at Lee Park (aka “Emancipation Park”) months in advance of the event. The purpose was to present standard alt-right messages supporting European identity and culture, and to protest the removal of the Robert E. Lee statue, which Charlottesville had recently voted on. Unite the Right organizers were cooperating with the Charlottesville Police Department from the get go. When CPD learned of threats that antifa (“anti-fascists”) would attack rallygoers, CPD informed Unite the Right and asked if they knew whom would be the most likely targets.

    Unite the Right organizers told their supporters on numerous occassions, in unmistakable language, to *not* bring weapons or firearms. Shields would be permitted, as a massive antifa and Black Lives Matter presence was anticiapted, and both have known histories of violence (i.e., Berkeley incidents, San Francisco last summer, attacks on Dallas Police Department, Ferguson riots, etc). However, it was made clear to attendees that they should avoid fights with anyone, travel in groups, and only use force as an absolute last resort to defend themselves. Attendees were told that the media and law enforcement would likely blame them for any confrontation, regardless of what the actual facts were.

    A week before the event, the City of Charlottesville revoked Unite the Right’s permit, on the thin pretext that Lee Park could not accomodate the crowd. They wanted the rally relocated to McIntire Park, which would have negated one of the rally’s main purposes and given a PR victory to their opponents, such as Vice Mayor Wes Bellamy, a known Black Lives Matter activist who had been attempting to shut down the event.
    On Thursday, CPD called back and stated they had just removed over 50 weapons that had been hidden in the park (but no firearms). This occurred before any Unite the Right organizers even arrived in Charlottesville. Thus, the weapons were most likely hidden by people planning to attack the rally.

    At that point, Charlottesville Police ceased all cooperation. They said they would resume preparations if the permit was reinstated. Seeing that it was too late to cancel the event, and that the police had withdrawn their protection, some of the organizers told attendees that they may want to bring whatever legally owned and/or licensed weapons they need to ensure their personal safety. The warnings about avoiding confrontations were repeated.

    Unite the Right organizers then sued Charlottesville in Federal District Court, seeking an injunction that would force the city to reinstate the permit. The judge saw through the city council’s ruse. On Friday, the injunction was granted. Unite the Right went into the rally with the full legal support of a federal district judge and the Virginia chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union.

    On Saturday, Unite the Right organizers learned that a police stand-down order was in effect. As they approached the park, they found the entrance blocked with hundreds of antifa and BLM activists, who pelted them with mace, urine-filled balloons, feces, bricks, and flagpoles.

    Practically everyone entering was assaulted in one way or another. Several Unite the Right attendees reported having guns drawn on them by antifa who were openly carrying automatic weapons (as opposed to the handful of so-called “Oath Keepers” whose motives are unclear). Baked Alaska (an alt-light commentator) and some of his comrades were sprayed with what appears to be hydrochloric acid. As of Sunday, Baked was still being treated at a hospital, and could not see three feet in front of his face. He may be permanently blind. Others reported severe chemical burns from the acid attacks.

    Shortly before the event began, a “state of emergency” was declared. A Charlottesville Police Department Captain began announcing “By order of the Commonwealth, this has been declared an unlawful assembly. If you do not disperse immediately, you will be arrested.” I repeat: the rally was canceled before it began, before any of the speakers spoke. Attendees, including Richard Spencer, Nathan Damigo, and Pax Dickinson, were pepper sprayed, beaten, and kicked in the shins by riot cops. As I watched his Periscope, I heard him say “I’m not going anywhere, but I’m not going to fight you.” and “We aren’t moving, but we are not going to hurt you. Stop kicking us.” After more pepperspray he was forced of the park.

    Thus, the cops forced the attendees, who had already been pummeled on their way in, back into a crowd of waiting antifa, who pounced on them again with flagpoles, clubs, bottles, etc. I personally witnessed this on the RT livestream. One even had fashioned a makeshift flamethrower from an aerosol can. This all occurred within view of the police. There are photos on the internet that will prove this. Antifa then stalked attendees throughout the city and assaulted them for the rest of the day and well into Sunday night.

    Notably, I have yet to see any footage of police clearing out antifa / BLM from any parts of the city, including the area where the crash occurred. I have seen footage of the driver’s car being attacked with a flagpole before the crash.

    Bottom line: There is nothing more the Unite the Right organizers could have done to make this a legal, peaceful event. CPD, Virginia State Police, and local and state governments violently and illegally suppressed their event in violation of a federal court order. The narrative you have seen reported in the legacy media over the last 48 hours is both pre-written and fictitious.”

    Trump could now turn this around by having the DOJ arrest the mayor as an accessory to murder! Can you imagine the shrieking this would cause.

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    • Hipster Racist
      August 14, 2017

      I bet not a single “NSM” was attacked by Antifa nor harassed by the police.

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  23. nantuck
    August 14, 2017

    After all that has happened it should not be such a taboo any more to say Spencer is some kind of goverment operative, or at least a high-end bespoke golem for the ADL. When people call out Anglin, Auernheimer, and Peinovich as feds there’s plenty of whispered agreement. But for some reason calling Spencer the same gets you labeled as a tinfoil hatter or cuck around most corners of the alt-right-o-sphere. To me he’s even worse than the other three.

    His rise to prominence is built on a lot of happenstance and luck, he’s an absolute media whore, he bungles things that shouldn’t be that difficult to handle, and he associates himself with many shady characters — Damigo (felon and likely fed), Friberg (known for fucking over past business associates), Kessler (an Occupy and Obama supporter up until late 2016 who out of the blue helms a huge right-wing rally? Tell me that doesn’t smell like fed..) and other assorted suspicious characters. Not to mention his hefty trust fund, gay mien and foreign non-white beard wife who is very odd in her own right. It’s a big pile of red flags that everyone is told not to look at.

    As long as he is the de facto leader of the alt-right there are going to be more incidents like this and heilgate that set back the alt-right. I see the alt-right under Spencer’s leadership taking the same trajectory as Occupy, never more than fringe and eventually fading out.

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    • Hipster Racist
      August 14, 2017

      @nantuck

      The question isn’t whether Spencer has some sort of hidden agenda, the question is whether Spencer is useful to the pro-white cause or not.

      Since Trump was elected, Spencer has been a lot LESS useful to the pro-white cause then he used to be and far LESS useful than he could be, but I’m not really convinced he’s a net negative at least.

      If Spencer is a CIA agent it’s a really interesting development. I’m curious what his assignment actually is. Like I said it’s not really a net negative as far as I can tell and somewhat positive, so who knows?

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      • nantuck
        August 15, 2017

        My definition of useful to the pro-white cause is someone who makes apolitical whites wake up, but in that sense all the alt-right leaders are useful, even (and probably especially) the ones who are not sincere, because they are good actors. So I suppose Spencer is useful, but when people start souring on him and suspecting he is an actor it will undo some of the alt-right’s progress. People don’t like to be played for fools.

        As a self-admitted “conspiritard” I wonder what the FBI/CIA’s end goal is. Obviously, his handlers just want the promotion and pay raise for procuring a long list of names and thwarting a terrorist attack that they themselves will set up. But the deep state, I don’t know. The deep state is a very small subset of secular white Jews, and they don’t care about white people or any of they other non-white groups they have empowered to thwart white people. Perhaps it is an elaborate checks and balances scheme and they have determined that some of their non-white pets have gotten out of hand and they need whitey to tamp them back down.

        This brings me back to what is useful for the pro-white movement: not having leaders who are zog puppets. Some in the alt-right don’t care if some leaders are agents of the deep state because “look at all the normies getting red-pilled!” They either believe the movement can gain enough momentum that the deep state loses control of the narrative, or they believe the deep state is secretly on their side. Both are dangerous fantasies, the latter being worse than the former, the former at least has a very slim chance of happening.

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      • Hipster Racist
        August 15, 2017

        @nantuck

        The deep state is a very small subset of secular white Jews

        I disagree with this. I don’t think the Deep State is dominated by Jews, at all. In fact, since the late 1990s the Deep State has been one of the centers of resistance to Jewish power. We saw this especially in the late 1990s and early 2000s and again half way through the Obama administration. The fact that the US has not started a war with Iran is evidence that the Deep State is not at all controlled by Jews and in fact overruled ZOG on specific important issues. Jews have their social power mostly in media and academia and their political power via AIPAC and bribing Congress.

        I want normies to get red pilled, and I don’t particularly care how it happens, but it isn’t Spencer or his rallies that red pill the normies. Conditions on the ground are what red pills normies, and the vast constellation of pro-white internet media red pills the normies. The rallies and “protests” and either counter-productive or just a waste of time usually, but they can’t “un-red pill” anyone so I just don’t think it matters.

        I thought Spencer was far better at organizing a serious group like NPI, putting on conferences, and political lobbying. Spencer was better at that sort of thing than anyone else we had. But he’d rather waste his talents standing on the streetcorner and screaming into a bullhorn. Eh, better him doing it than virtually anyone else, but it’s still a shame to see such a waste of potential.

        I think we’ve seen peak Spencer. He won’t be running for Congress, he won’t be leading intellectually or culturally, and he won’t be building a serious organization (and AltRight.com won’t ever be as big or mainstream as Breitbart.com) But I suppose it’s better him leading that stuff than the clowns.

        If Spencer is a CIA agent, what difference does it make? What harm can he do? When you start at the bottom there’s no where to go but up.

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      • Sam J.
        August 19, 2017

        “…The deep state is a very small subset of secular white Jews…”

        “…I disagree with this. I don’t think the Deep State is dominated by Jews, at all. In fact, since the late 1990s the Deep State has been one of the centers of resistance to Jewish power…”

        I think you’re both, sorta wrong. I think there’s more than one deep State. There’s the Jew deep State. CIA, maybe parts of NSA and others I don’t know about. They have Jew money. that puts them on top. Then there’s the DIA deep State. Jews don’t join the military so they aren’t there, mostly. I’m sure they have civilians, Jews, wedged in here and there but they aren’t the core. They don’t have money, media or political influence so they have to tread carefully. Their influence per Iran is right on target. I don’t know if it’s still done but the NSA in their training used to play the tapes from the Israeli attack on the USS Liberty incident to every single person who went into the NSA. I’m not sure about the NSA. There’s a lot of Marines in the NSA. I think to keep an eye on them for the military.

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  24. Bob Sagget
    August 14, 2017

    There are quite a few people I’ve been discussing this event with and there seems to be some really conflicting opinions.

    Many see it as a great development. The ‘Alt-Right’ reveals its face. At least, when you go on AltRight.com that’s the gist I get.

    Others see it as one whole big ‘controlled op’ honeypot entrapment plan successfully implemented. They cite the fact that many attendees weren’t masked, and therefore their participation has been made public (potentionally destroying their lives and the lives of their families). It’s not too farfetched when one thinks about it. The KKK does this sort of stuff, and guess who was in attendence, yeaup, that’s right, members of the KKK.

    Some see it as ‘horrible optics’. The media is claiming that a ‘crazed Alt-Right’ supporter/’member’ acted out of ‘pure hatred’ and killed that cat-lady (I forget her name). There may be some truth to that, but it’s also true that the leftists were violently attacking people and probably provoked the driver (who could have been fearing for his life) to do what he did themselves (there is more and more video footage showing the car having bricks thrown at it and people hitting it with a bat before it rams into the crowd).

    Leftists, well, leftists are reacting as always. Jews, well, do I really have to go over how they’re reacting to this?

    Overall, I think it’s a shit show, but it may just have some benefit (even if that benefit is miniscule). It might spur your ordinary, shy racially conscious White person to begin being less subtle in advocating for their own race.

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    • Hipster Racist
      August 14, 2017

      @Bob Sagget

      That is sort of my take on it. I wouldn’t advise anyone to go to any of these staged protests because chances are they will be set up by some combination of the organizers, the Antifa, the media, and the various astroturf groups like the “NSM” and the “KKK.”

      But I can’t help but see it as somewhat of a net positive; it’s really bringing the Antifa and the anti-whites out of the closet, it’s radicalizing the average joe white Trump voter, and even groups like the NRA are starting to leverage the image of the Antifa. Look at what happened in Seattle, I don’t think the “Patriot Prayer” groups is anything but normie conservative Trump supporters but they were nevertheless attacked by Antifa.

      But frankly I think you’d be crazy to take the Alt Right at face value at this point. Spencer is wasting his talents doing these silly media stunts, which is too bad, but you know, he’s a rich guy and I guess this is what he does for kicks. Better him than average people who can’t afford to have their lives destroyed. Let the celebrities, the fakers and the shills take the hits and wear down the anti-whites.

      Street protests are really just an excuse to not do anything anyway, it doesn’t actually have any positive impact, protests are certainly no threat to the anti-white system.

      I do however feel very badly for the well meaning young White guys who are manipulated by some extremely cynical operatives on “both sides” (likely, the same side) but they can’t say Hipster Racist hasn’t spent the last few years warning them.

      I could say that I don’t want to say “I told you so” but I in fact do want to say “I told you so.” In the interests of “movement harmony” I pulled my punches on certain public figures but they are all exposing themselves quite nicely lately so, you know, it is what it is.

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      • Sam J.
        August 19, 2017

        “…They cite the fact that many attendees weren’t masked, and therefore their participation has been made public (potentionally destroying their lives and the lives of their families)…”

        I don’t see this as a total loss at all. As Vox Day pointed out if the Left can fire the right for politics then the right can do the same. I bet there’s even less support for the AntiFa among your average American than there is for Nazis. We keep looking on the bad side but the Alt-Left has little to no support among average people. Outing them is great.

        Essentially they are legitimizing “Segregation”!!! This is fucking great. We should be promoting their cause of segregation.

        All the things they are doing now can be used to GREAT effect when we take power. They themselves started the trend. Let them live with it.

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    • bob saffron
      August 14, 2017

      I hope the event organizers don’t forget Peter Cvjetanovic, Cole White, and other non-professional activists suffering repercussions for their participation. Their fate will be a lesson for others observing the fray from a safe distance.

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      • Bob Sagget
        August 15, 2017

        Exactly.

        The people who are going to suffer the most for this are the ordinary folks who were there who can’t defend themselves when people fire them and ostracize them.

        Hell, I’m ‘friends’ with a couple of the attendees on Faceberg, and they still think that the event was a success and nothing wrong can happen. I imagine as soon as they get denied the ability to have any stable job they’ll realize that something bad did indeed happen.

        It’s only now, with people like BakedAlaska getting basically blinded by acid (not pepper-spray, but acid) and others possibly having their lives (and the lives of their families) destroyed that they realize making themselves so public and being fine with the ‘hooligan’ label etc… has ‘consequences’. I don’t want to sound like an ass, but it’s true. They think being ‘subtle’ is basically ‘cucking’.

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      • Hipster Racist
        August 15, 2017

        They think being ‘subtle’ is basically ‘cucking’.

        On the old blog and here early on we really tried to drive this point home. But boys will be boys and when you spend your life on the internet engaging in fringe culture like 4chan and anime, you often lose touch with the real world. These rallies are what, 1,000 people? I do feel sorry for the well meaning young men like that one kid who was filmed during “Hailgate” and signed a media release thinking he’d be getting publicity for his Lord of the Rings style novel about European history, only to be slandered as a “neo-Nazi.”

        But I suspect the boys showing up now know what the deal is and want to be the “Fa” and play with the “Antifa.” There have always been skinheads and punk rockers and other social subculture types, and yeah they often regret getting those tattoos and piercings when they get older and try to get real jobs but they know what they are getting into.

        None of this does anything particularly useful for the pro-white cause of course.

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  25. guest
    August 14, 2017

    I agree with el rushbo who half jokingly today suggested:

    “I’ll tell you what else let’s do. Let’s not stop at Robert E. Lee statues. Let’s ban Gone With the Wind. Let’s ban the book, and let’s make sure the movie can no longer be purchased, rented, or exhibited anywhere. We will get rid of not just Robert E. Lee. We’ll tear down anything that tells anybody where Gettysburg is and what happened there.

    Well, now wait. No, Gettysburg will stand.

    Gettysburg will stand ’cause that’s where they had their lunch handed to them, so Gettysburg will stand. But we’ll go all the way back to Lincoln. We’ll take Lincoln’s name off of Mount Rushmore and we’ll put Trump up there. (I’m only kidding.) But, I mean, let’s do this. Let’s get rid of all of these outdoor signs of the nation’s injustice and unfairness. Get rid of everything so that American slavery is never known to have existed in any way.”

    If the left wants to destroy every outward sign of American evil, why would we want to stand in opposition? Go ahead and what slavery?

    I’m pro anything that leads to less get-r-done larping.

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    • guest
      August 14, 2017

      Let’s cut the cord, actually and metaphorically.

      I threw my southern identity out with my TV!

      Or maybe it was only on the TV? I can’t tell.

      That’s deep… 🙂

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      • Hipster Racist
        August 14, 2017

        @guest

        Sorry I’m not giving up my Dixie flag and the Dukes of Hazzard will always live in my heart.

        Outside of America no one freaks out about the Confederate flag and it’s just seen as it always was, a regional symbol not particularly different than a state flag. When I was a little kid I wore Confederate flag t-shirts and no one blinked an eye – and I’m not that old either, depending on how it’s defined I’m a millennial or at least “Generation Y.”

        I’m also rather partial to the Gadsden flag.

        These symbols were mainstream Americana until the second Obama administration.

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  26. bob saffron
    August 14, 2017

    It’s also a salutary lesson about the police, whose primary role is to protect the system, citizen protection merely an ancillary.

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  28. Nightingale
    August 15, 2017

    Hipster Racist, which is it? Are 100% of these LARPing “white supremacists” with fashy haircuts actually anti-white, or is Richard Spencer a net positive? You seem to be arguing that he’s an asset to the pro-white cause who just keeps botching things foolishly. But the rest of your logic would point to him as being in-league with the anti-whites. Why are you resisting your own conclusions? I’m not saying you’re wrong, just looking to get more of your thoughts on this. You seem to be giving some “fringe” types a pass even while saying that 100% of them are anti-white, and I’m wondering how you assess these borderline cases who might be pro-white but might not.

    Also, how about Pax Dickinson? He’s hilarious and I am favorably inclined toward him. But, based on all your analysis, the people who organized this Charlottesville Unite the Right rally weren’t doing mainstream pro-whites any favors. I read somewhere an opinion that Pax sort of “works for” Moldbug.

    One thing is clear–Spencer and Dickinson worked closely with Obama-guy Kessler and already outed people like Mike Enoch on this rally. What should we conclude from this?

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    • Hipster Racist
      August 15, 2017

      @Nightingale

      Spencer isn’t a “neo-Nazi,” obviously, his haircut is mainstream despite the nickname. The “NSM” are the neo-Nazis, and they are obvious completely counter-productive and are functionally anti-white. Anyone waving a swastika around is 100% anti-white, either personally, or being handled by anti-whites. The weight of 50 years of history shows that unambiguously.

      Spencer and his crew aren’t waving around swastika flags. As far as I can tell, Charlottesville was a wash as far as mainstream pro-Whites. The only people hurt by Charlottesville are the young white men who actually participated and will likely be slandered online and unable to get real jobs anytime soon. I suspect the “leaders” consider them disposable heroes.

      What should we conclude from this?

      I conclude that some powers-that-be want there to be “commie vs. nazi” street fights. Consider the recent NRA commercial and the panic it caused among mainstream Democratic party liberals. I might suspect that Spencer isn’t a CIA agent, or secretly working for the ADL, but may just be working for the Republican party and the mainstream Conservative Inc. movement to draw out the Antifa.

      The mainstream liberals and progressives HATE the Antifa and are not particularly fond of Black Lives Matter either, because they know that those groups make them look really bad and cost them a lot of votes and mainstream sentiment.

      So here’s my new conspiracy theory: Richard Spencer is working for Laura Bush:

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  29. Nightingale
    August 15, 2017

    Maybe your answer is partly what you said above….that you pulled your punches on some public figures in the interest of movement harmony. But now that they are outing themselves, can you give us any more thoughts on how/where we should draw the line? Who to trust is a very big question in a world of fakers and sabbateurs and anti-whites conspiring to turn liberals and conservatives against each other.

    Also, what’s your take on Moldbug? My take is that some of the ideas are good–Cthulu always swims left, the left attracts the politically ambitious, monarchy is arguably better than democracy, etc. But “formalizing” the rule of the rich is an awfully convenient proposal for Jewish power, which already controls a lot informally.

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    • Hipster Racist
      August 15, 2017

      @Nightingale

      In order to be a public activist, a “face” for the movement, you have to have at least one of three attributes: good looking, charismatic, or smart.

      Matt Heimbach has none of those attributes: he’s ugly, stupid, and not in the slighest bit charismatic. It would be best if he just stayed home.

      Peter Brimelow is a weird looking guy, but he’s a good public speaker and he’s super-smart. Kevin MacDonald isn’t going to be winning any beauty contests and he isn’t a particularly riveting public speaker, but he’s a genius and has put in the work – his contributions to the cause are unmatched.

      Spencer is good looking and charismatic. I don’t think he’s a genius philosopher but he come across great on camera and he’s exactly the right kind of person to be a spokesman.

      Mike Enoch is ugly and doesn’t come across as particularly smart either, but he really does have a great voice for radio and comes across – on radio – as quite charismatic. The fact that he’s married to a Jewess would have been no big deal if he had been honest about it from the beginning – the fact he hid it and that entire crowd postured as “Daily Stormer Lite” is frankly suspicious. Enoch should just do his radio show and leave it at that. It’s not as if he has any unique ideas, he’s just good at speaking over a microphone.

      Andrew Anglin is stupid, dumb, and creepy. Azzmodor is ugly, stupid, and somewhat charismatic, but he’s just off-putting and creepy and should just go get a real job and stop bothering people.

      Don’t “trust” anyone, of course.

      Moldbug was a super-smart and nerdy half Jew that had some interesting ideas. I don’t think his Jewishness makes his ideas bad, but his ideas are 90% just interesting philosophically, they don’t really have any practical importance to White people in 2017. The “NRx” movement based on his ideas is worse than useless, it’s counter production – it service ZERO purpose but to distract White people from White interests. “Restoring a monarchy” is literally the gayest idea I’ve ever heard of in my life and even taking the ideas of a unified executive seriously – “NRx” doesn’t even get that right. Go read some modern management theory and you’ll realize that the “NRx” people, while clearly including some very smart guys, and just circle-jerking with each other and smelling each other’s farts. I read socialmatter.net occasionally and I do think they are right about a lot of social issues, but mostly Moldbuggery is a giant waste of time.

      There, I’ve pissed over everybody. I say what the pro-white movement needs is an actual, real, mainstream political lobby. Something like ALIPAC. Spencer’s NPI was in the perfect position to be that lobby, but Spencer cucked to Anglin because he got called a “faggot” too many times so now he’s slumming it with stupid internet trolls and putting on these dumb “Fa vs. Antifa” events. AltRight.com was ok when Hunter Wallace ran it, but Vincent Law is a 24 year old faggot with a vastly overrated opinion of himself so now AltRight.com is nothing but the (((Daily Stormer))) attempting to be more high brow by not posting Japanese cartoon kiddie porn.

      As usual, the “movement” has snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.

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      • bob saffron
        August 16, 2017

        Any opinion on the Daily Stormer suspension?

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      • Hipster Racist
        August 16, 2017

        The (((Daily Stormer))) is the same as the Westboro Baptist Church. They are purity spiralers that want to hurt “their own cause” because they like feeling marginalized and oppressed. Fundamentally it’s a masochist fetish. Anglin is openly anti-white. I object in the strongest possible terms to the stupid suggestion that Anglin and the (((Daily Stormer))) are “to the right” of me, or that we secretly sympathize with them but think they are just “bad optics.”

        No, to the extent that the (((Daily Stormer))) is serious, they are anti-white. Anglin has in fact said that “the real enemy” is White women. Yes, they are trolls, but they are trolling pro-whites – just like the Westboro Baptist Church was always clear that their main enemy was conservative churches that were anti-homosexual but wouldn’t join the Westboros.

        I feel as bad for Anglin’s legal troubles as I do for Antifa’s legal troubles – they are on the same side, both are anti-white.

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    • Hipster Racist
      August 15, 2017

      I’ll add more:

      Jared Taylor: brilliant, charismatic, and photogenic. I understand the criticism of “they look hu-white to me” but I also understand where he is coming from. He said he thinks Jews can be “men of the West” and I agree with him – the problem is most Jews don’t agree with him.

      Hunter Wallace: obviously not a male model and from listening to some of his radio interviews I don’t think he’s particularly charismatic but Wallace is surprisingly intelligent and he’s obviously very well read, bordering on scholarly. I just like the guy. I think Occidental Dissent has it’s place and I’m totally 100% pro-Southern nationalism although I think it’s basically a lost cause. But I think the Confederate flag and the Dixie heritage is worth defending – it’s clearly an American proxy for “White” at this point in history.

      RamZPaul: nerdy looking guy, but rather charismatic and usually funny. Like Spencer he doesn’t come across to me as a brilliant philosopher but he’s smart enough. I like RamZPaul because he stays in his lane: he just does his videos and occasionally makes a funny speech at AmRen. He’s also almost always right when it comes to “movement drama.”

      I don’t know much about Nathan Damigo but the few interviews I have seen of him he comes across good: photogenic, interviews well, somewhat charismatic, seems smart enough. I understand people’s suspicions due to his background and “Identity Evopa” borders on LARPy when it comes to iconography but so far I haven’t seen any red flags.

      Red Ice: Lana is a super-hottie. She’s ultra-charismatic and brings that “haughty hottie blonde” attitude that is gold for our movement. I assume Heinrich must be extremely well hung to have bagged such a babe. Red Ice is great, the best media channel we have going for us.

      Greg Johnson: Listening to his interviews he comes across as mildly charismatic and he’s obviously extremely intelligent. His personal online drama tends to be a distraction but his work at Counter Currents is top-notch. He should just keep doing what he’s doing.

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      • Bob Sagget
        August 15, 2017

        There is the whole this with Red Ice and Duginism and Revizionist Zionism etc… tho…

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      • Hipster Racist
        August 15, 2017

        One more:

        The same JIDF trolls that are “handling” the (((Daily Stormer))) are now “handling” AltRight.com – literally some of the same handles. They work as a team; they are the “Troll Army.” It wouldn’t be at all surprising if they all have desks next to each other in Tel Aviv. They spend every day, all day, on AltRight.com policing the comment section.

        Anglin, as an “avatar” of the (((Hollywood Nazi))) is the foundation, you are not allowed to ever criticize Anglin; to criticize Anglin or the (((Daily Stormer))) is to “punch right” which is the ultimate sin.

        Bring up (((Joshua Goldberg))) or the long history of Jews dressing up like “Nazis” and you will be gas-lighted and attacked in unison. They will literally go running to the moderators. They have TIME – seriously, these neo-Nazi JIDF trolls are a full time operation. These are not just kids sitting around blowing off steam on the internet, it’s a coordinated campaign.

        There was a study released not long ago that shows online use of curse words and personal insults is effective – just notice how slurs like “cuck” and “faggot” and “sperg” are used in these “right wing” circles. It’s not just people bullshitting online or trolling each other, it’s a practiced tactic.

        My hunch is that the JIDF that runs the (((Daily Stormer))) have set up on AltRight.com, presumably to make sure AltRight.com never goes mainstream, that is always repels “normies.”

        Spencer is a smart guy and he knows the deal. The fact he is allowing this to happen to what is supposed to be his premiere internet site does not say anything good about him. Chances are it’s just negligence mixed with a bit of naivete – Spencer isn’t an internet troll LARPing from his mama’s basement, he’s a rich upper class jet-setter and James Bond wanna-be.

        Fact is that Colin Liddell (and RamZPaul) have ALWAYS been right about this and everyone knows they are right because we’ve seen it all before. 4Chan has been around for 20 years. The union movement calls it “raiding” – it’s when one union just raids another movement for members. Guess what? That does NOT bring new people to the cause, that just transfers the same crowd from one group to another.

        Daily Stormer didn’t bring anyone new into “the movement” – Daily Stormer just raided 4Chan and Stormfront. Heimbach didn’t bring anyone new into “the movement” – he just raided the existing clown groups and federated them as “Trad Youth.”

        Spencer and AltRight.com are not going to be bringing anyone new into the movement with the same old 4chan/Daily Stormer troll gimmick either. What are they going to do next, start posting anime cartoons? Raiding the existing cultural ghetto does NOT grow the movement.

        The JIDF knows this which is why they are so insistent on making sure that all these online groups just raid each other for the tiny fringe of online (((Hollywood Nazis))) – which of course are likely 20% the JIDF and their multiple handles themselves.

        For all the media coverage of Charlottesville, let’s not lose site of the fact: it had at most 1,000 Alt Right participants. For the DC Virginia area, 1,000 people is less than the number of people that show up to a suburban mall for a sale at Target. 1,000 people is probably less than the number of staff at one of Trump’s bigger rallies.

        Serious pro-white people want pro-white ideas to be MAINSTREAM, not fringe. We’re trying to build a mass movement, NOT a little club, or a subculture, or a cult.

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    • Sam J.
      August 19, 2017

      Matt Heimbach did a great push through the Left with shields and flag poles! Classic stuff. Shields to push with poles to keep them from grabbing the shields. If they would have stayed together and done exactly the same on the way out all of you would be singing a different tune about “how the right stuck together when pushed out of the park”. So the difference between defeat and winning was actually far smaller than people let on.

      You should think about this. What would the narrative be if they were pushed out of the park and stayed together exactly like on the way in? It would have looked good and Heimbach would have been the hero for saving all the others from being bashed. Here’s them going through the commies. to around 2:30

      Here’s what I believe. If they won and pushed them out of the way the whole time it would have been a big win. Bad media or not because as Patton used to say Americans like winners. Nazi flags not Nazi flags I don’t think it makes as much difference as you guys think. I think, in the long term, Whites directly advocating for Whites is a winning cause even if they LARP Nazi as long as the win. Whites want to win. If they see Nazis pushing Leftist out of the way they may tell everyone they hate the Nazi but inside they know the Nazis are pro-White. I do advocate following the law and not doing a lot of illegal stuff but attack when attacked seems fine to me whatever the media says.

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      • Hipster Racist
        August 19, 2017

        @Sam J

        The narrative would have been exactly the same. “Street battles” are a huge waste of time. Even if the youtube videos showed “our side” being awesome and perfect and “their side” being evil and bad – so what? No one is going to see the youtube video except for a handful of people.

        Even if a million people see the youtube video and think “wow, the pro-white side was really the good side and those anti-fa suck” – now what? They are going to go back to their normal lives and forget the whole thing.

        I’m sorry, anybody who actually believe that Matt Heimbach is ever going to “lead a revolution” or have some significant following is living in la-la land. 99% of white people see this “muh streets” crap and think “what a waste of time.”

        Richard Spencer has the potential to be a boon to the cause but if this “muh streets” stuff goes on for another year or two most people are just going to get bored with it.

        “Patton used to say Americans like winners.”

        Cranks who shown up in “muh streets” are not considered “winners” by anyone. Even the liberals mocked all those “Pussy hat” paraders.

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    • Hipster Racist
      August 15, 2017

      @Karen T

      I don’t see why it would matter if this Kessler guy was an Occupy Wall Streeter – I’m quite sympathetic to the Occupy Wall Street movement in its original form.

      As for Obama? Eh, Obama was the only one that stood up to the Israel lobby. If McCain or Romney had won, we’d probably be at war with Iran and Russia right now.

      If Kessler comes from the left/liberal side of politics and is pro-white – GOOD. That’s GREAT. I’m not a “right winger” at all and conservatism is stupid. I want more liberal/left leaning pro-whites. So good for Kessler.

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  30. presbyterianrevival
    August 15, 2017

    The ‘altright’ is an intelligence operation. Every single leader in this ridiculous movement is a confirmed spy except for poor “Hunter Wallace” who is just a garden variety paddy dumbass. Anglin is a jew. Weev is a jew. Peinovich is a jew. Lokteff is a jew. Kessler is a jew. Trump himself is a jew. Try to find even one ‘altright’ e-celeb who isn’t a jew or at least a weird foreigner. Spencer is just a massive fagg*t and a traitor to his country.

    Jews are white and white nationalism is jewish nationalism. These poor guys who think every jew looks like the happy merchant are helpless against jewish tyranny.

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    • Hipster Racist
      August 15, 2017

      @presbyterianrevival

      Anglin isn’t a Jew, he comes from a conservative evangelical Christian family and his sister is a Christian missionary. Besides, Anglin’s not smart enough to be a Jew. McZOG is convinced that Anglin’s sister is an intelligence operative and that (((Daily Stormer))) is too, but I think the simplest explanation is likely the most correct: (((Daily Stormer))) is a troll site, Anglin is a dumb-assed internet troll, and the JIDF find it to be very useful and Anglin to be a useful idiot. After all, Anglin actually published a professional Jewish propagandist, Joshua Goldberg. I think Anglin is literally that stupid.

      Weev probably is a Jew and he probably is working for the FBI as a condition of his release, but he’s also literally mentally ill and his poor family have begged people to stop playing into his mental illness. I feel sorry for his mother.

      Lokteff isn’t a Jewess. You are greatly overestimating Jewish power which is, ironically, a pretty Jewish supremacist thing to do.

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      • presbyterianrevival
        August 15, 2017

        Jewishness isn’t a religion, it’s an ethnicity, a nationality. Tons of “Christians” are jewish ethnics. Lokteff is absolutely a Russian yenta. Anglin is absolutely a Lithuanian jew. We know who the jews are by their genealogy, their blood – religion and ideology are beside the point. Eastern European-types involved in U.S. politics should be presumed jewish until proven otherwise. Even if they’re not officially jewish, they’re not true Americans and they need to be put in their place. It’s unbelievably arrogant for them to be politically active in any way, beyond a humble civic nationalism. Remember their motto: “by deception thou shalt make war”.

        The ‘altright’ is part of the war against American freedom, meant to advance the israeli-style police state. Underestimating jewish trickery is the real problem.

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      • Hipster Racist
        August 15, 2017

        @presbyterianrevival

        There’s no way that Anglin has even a drop of Ashkenazi ethnicity – not a chance. A nigger in the woodpile? Maybe. One eight “Cherokee?” Quite possibly. Some yellow fever somewhere in there? Wouldn’t surprise me. But Askhenazi? Not a chance in hell, no way. I’d bet you a hundred bucks if we can get access to his 24 and me.

        I doubt Lana is even partially yenta. Why is it the types that see Jews everywhere seem to actually have the worst “Jewdar” ever?

        Eastern European-types involved in U.S. politics should be presumed jewish until proven otherwise. Even if they’re not officially jewish, they’re not true Americans and they need to be put in their place.

        Sorry that’s not very Presbyterian of you. We Scot Presbyterian types believe in TRUTH and factual reality above all else. If it were up to me, I’d expel all Papists and Slavics on general principles alone, but that doesn’t mean I’m going to go around pretending ever Polack is a Jew or every Russian is an Ashkenazi. That’s just not how it works.

        One of the reasons dealing with the Jew Problem is so difficult is precisely attitudes like yours – are we really sure that your rather Jewish attitude towards truth (you are all but quoting Elie Weisel there) doesn’t have some genetic basis to it?

        You ARE a Presbyterian right? You’re not trying to pull one over on us are you? Quick: what does “Tulip” stand for? Any self-respecting Scots-American would know without looking it up …

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    • Hipster Racist
      August 15, 2017

      Also Wallace isn’t a paddy, come on. Wallace is a Southerner from old line English colonial stock and he was raised Methodist.

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      • presbyterianrevival
        August 15, 2017

        We’ve all got a little paddy in us, and in Griffin’s case that element is certainly ascendant. He’s as dumb as they get.

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      • Hipster Racist
        August 15, 2017

        @presbyterianrevival

        Sorry, you’re letting that Southern drawl fool you. Wallace is extremely book smart, almost scholarly. Just because he talks slow doesn’t mean he’s stupid. I know lots of New Yorkers that talk a mile a minute and they are as dumb as bricks. Just read Wallace’s essays and book reviews about various Southern authors, Wallace could easily get a PhD in literature and work as a professor. He is the farthest thing from dumb. Now he may be a bit provincial because he’s probably rarely left Alabama except for his summer spent in the Big City of … Alexandria, Virginia (they even have a train!) But provincial isn’t stupid.

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      • Sam J.
        August 19, 2017

        “…Wallace is extremely book smart, almost scholarly…”

        Agreed.

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  31. presbyterianrevival
    August 15, 2017

    @Hipster: Presbyterianism is dedicated to thwarting foreign tyranny. We make the rules, and ANY foreigner who meddles with our ancient law must be opposed with all vigor. “Looks huwhite to me” is pure treason.

    I wouldn’t use a goofy word like “ashkenazi”, it’s gibberish. They’re eastern European and they have no business bossing us around in our country. BTW, the khazar hypothesis is not a hypothesis at all, it’s simply a fact. Douglas Morton Dunlop sorted it out ages ago and the case is water-tight. They’re Tatar mongrels with a far-fetched fantasy genealogy.

    I’m afraid that your jewdar is sadly non-functional if you couldn’t tell that Anglin is jewish from his voice alone. His appearance and behavior are archetypical. Anglin is a jew, write it in the sky. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyBD9opVGpk

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    • Hipster Racist
      August 15, 2017

      @presbyterianrevival

      Now you are just trolling, you don’t really believe that Anglin is a Jew. I doubt you’re even a Presbyterian either.

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      • presbyterianrevival
        August 15, 2017

        lol Well, that’s the internet, we don’t REALLY know who anyone is.

        Let’s say that Anglin isn’t a jew (he is absolutely a jew, but let’s pretend that he isn’t for the moment), whose interests does he serve? Cui Bono? Framing Trump as a pro-white, jew-wise candidate, connecting white identity to ISIS, promoting vicious misogyny and “fascism” as a white value and so on – nobody benefits from this except for jewry.

        Then look at the real threat to jewish domination, the Liberty caucus: who is chimping out the most at our progress within the festering cess-pool of GOP politics? The negroes? The Mexicans? The “antifa”? Nope, we can get all of those guys on board, no problems. It’s the jew-run ‘altright’ getting salty because they know we can win. Because we do win, on the ground, where it actually matters. But try telling a dumbass like “Hunter Wallace” to get on the right side, and watch what happens.

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      • Hipster Racist
        August 15, 2017

        When the Liberty caucus starts talking about stopping mass immigration, let us know. If anything it was the immigration issue that turned people off to libertarianism. Most “Alt Right” people were libertarians and Ron Paul fans at one time, but the libertarians – including the Pauls – just refused to deal with the issue. They were the ones that snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.

        I say this as someone who went to Ron Paul meetups back in the day and donated money to him, even though I never believed in any of that Austrian goldbuggery bullshit.

        Anglin’s just a white trash tool used by the JIDF, that doesn’t make him ethnically Jewish. If he were ethnically Jewish he likely wouldn’t be borderline mentally retarded.

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    • guest
      August 15, 2017

      Hipster said: “Neo-Nazis are the REAL Antifa.”

      And the classic counterpart to that would be:
      “White supremacist is a code word for white.”

      Maybe combined with “don’t hide behind it”.

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      • Hipster Racist
        August 15, 2017

        @guest

        Well “white supremacist” is just an anti-white slur. No one else is called a “supremacist” just like no one else is called a “racist.”

        But “Neo-Nazi” is a self-identification by a specific group of people. No actual NSDAP member would ever refer to themselves as a “Nazi” because “Nazi” itself is a slur word for “National Socialist” just like no liberal would call themselves a “libtard.”

        So imagine if some group of people started calling themselves “The Libertarded Party” – what would that be? Obviously an anti-liberal group of conservatives mocking them.

        What is a “Neo-Nazi” anyway? It refers to a series of groups started by Jewish anti-whites and the FBI in the 1960s to defame white people. Most “Neo-Nazi” leaders have been Jewish and the ones who weren’t Jewish were – as far as I can tell, ALL of them – FBI informants.

        The “Neo-Nazis” and the “Anti-Fa” are both part of the same group, recruited from the same crowd, and managed by the same people. That’s not a metaphor – that’s literally true.

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    • bob saffron
      August 15, 2017

      Well, I admit I laughed, even though I take a dim view of his enterprise and it’s 9/11 obfuscation. The disdain towards “white people” is a red flag (05:45 and 51:28):

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      • Sam J.
        August 19, 2017

        If you don’t believe 9-11 was an inside job and most probably totally run an instigated by the Jews then I don’t trust you. Building 7 fell the same speed as a rock dropped in air meaning build 7 was held up by…air, if it fell the same speed as a rock dropped in air. I see no way for this to happen unless the bottom was demoed out from under it. Israelis videotaping the attacks in advance and papers written by them stating the exact wars that we are in now seal the deal for me. The Jews did 9-11.

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      • bob saffron
        August 21, 2017

        It’s not me you’ve got to convince, it’s Anglin. He pushes the FBI dunnit line.

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  32. Nightingale
    August 15, 2017

    Hipster,

    This is off topic, but an earnest question on which I’d value your opinion.

    As at least some white people hopefully turn back toward God in the coming years, what are the reasonable choices? (And also, can you give us a bit more perspective on your problem with papists?)

    I get that America is originally a British protestant country. But if you include Germans, Italians, and Irish in the “white European” category, the descendants of protestants and papists alike are the mainstream white Americans we need to convince to start advocating for themselves and their fellow whites.

    The typical white person today is not nearly as religious as his or her grandparents. So when (hopefully), young white people turn back to God, to tradition, and to religion, many have no idea where to turn. And when they look back at their parents and grandparents and great grandparents, there are a variety of religious denominations and sometimes mixes of them to look to. There’s Anglicanism/Episcopalianism, there are the other mainline protestant traditions (Methodist, Baptist, Presbyterian, etc.), there are the nondenominational Christian evangelicals, and there are Catholics.

    I’m curious what you would say the pros and cons of these traditions are.

    One bit of context: it seems like some Jews have worked hard to undermine these various Christian denominations, through criticism, protest, lobbying, ridicule, infiltration, etc. etc. Catholicism looks like the hardest hit and perhaps the biggest target over time for undermining. This may just be because it’s big and old and rich and spans across nations to a greater degree than the others. But if (((they))) hate it so much, perhaps there’s something to it. And if Jews and Protestants and Masons were all united by anti-Catholicism, maybe Catholicism has something to recommend it. Or not.

    So, with that context, I guess I have 4 questions.

    1) If we want to be pro-white and pro-tradition, what are some of the right denominations to consider or avoid?

    2) Is there anything to the idea of Catholicism as the original, the one true Church, etc. vs. all the protestant offshoots? Or not.

    3) How should we think about the ideals of the various denominations vs. their current state? Are certain protestant denominations too committed to homosexuality and open borders and anti-white thinking to be good homes for pro-whites? Is Catholicism too far gone, too riddled with gays and pedos and hypocrisy, to be a good home for pro-Whites? Should people looking for religion turn to some kind of “original” or more “orthodox” versions of whatever denomination they choose?

    4) What is the source of your opposition to papists? I can think of a few possibilities:
    a) Like Jews, Catholics have alliances that extend beyond America and its people.
    b) While white non-hispanic Catholics are of European descent, they aren’t really founding stock. German, Italian, and Irish immigrants of the 19th century are more “foreign” than the founding stock, even if much less foreign than recent waves of immigrants.
    c) Other. What are other reasons?

    But question 1) is the main one. If you were looking to choose a Christian denomination, what would you do?

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    • Hipster Racist
      August 15, 2017

      @Nightingale

      Don’t take @presbyterianrevival and I trolling each other seriously. Presbyterianism for me is more of an ethnic designation than a religious one, and Presbyrevival is just keeping a joke going from months ago on AltRight.com.

      And if Jews and Protestants and Masons were all united by anti-Catholicism, maybe Catholicism has something to recommend it. Or not.

      Lots of people were anti-Catholic because Catholics were the ruling imperial power. Catholics and Jews were in cahoots with each other for centuries let’s not forget.

      Frankly I don’t think Christianity of any kind is coming back but I’m all for people going to church, whichever one they were raised in, because I’m all about civil society institutions.

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      • guest
        August 15, 2017

        Just wait until the first black pope!

        That will be the comeback of the century.

        The Africa pivot of the Catholic church is in full swing:

        “Christianity is now Africa’s dominant religion, with the number of practising Catholics there outnumbering those in all Europe, a major conference on religions has heard.”

        “On the basis of the current figures, Prof. Introvigne added, Europe has now been surpassed by Africa in terms of practising Catholics and, he predicted, within 10 years, the continent will outgrow the Americas, too, to become the most populace Christian continent.”

        I nominate the honorable David Manning for pope! 🙂

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      • Hipster Racist
        August 15, 2017

        If we had more Negros like Pastor David Manning, we wouldn’t be having all these problems!

        https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Trent_Lott

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    • Sam J.
      August 19, 2017

      “…As at least some white people hopefully turn back toward God in the coming years, what are the reasonable choices?…”

      Catharism is the only choice. Catharist believe the old testament, the Jew bible, is the rantings of a demon possessed by the devil and what Jesus Christ said is the only thing of importance. After all if you’re a Christian then shouldn’t that be what you’re worried about? What does the muttering of a tribe of evil Jews matter?

      JESUS CHRIST, speaking to the Jews in the Gospel of St. John, 8:44 “Ye are of your father the devil, and the lust of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is not truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar and the father of it. – then answered the Jews — ” (which makes it clear that Christ was addressing the Jews.)

      Isn’t that clear enough?

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      • Hipster Racist
        August 19, 2017

        “Catharism is the only choice.”

        If that’s true we may as well just pack it in now.

        As Greg Johnson once pointed out – Lord of the Rings fandom has a better chance of becoming a cause to rally around than any of these obscure historical fetishes, from “Nazism” to “Catharism.”

        You go start a single church of “Catharism” and maybe you’ll have a point – but of course that is never going to happen, all that is ever going to happen is posting internet comments about “Catharism” that will be ignored by everyone.

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      • Sam J.
        August 20, 2017

        I understand your point but it’s not always accurate. Certain times of turmoil ideas that seem fantastic catch on and spread like wildfire. It not completely understood but I’ve heard it phrased as “when it’s time for steam engines it’s just steam time” or something like that. Chatharism is a perfectly sound idea based on Christian values that cuts out what I see as a tribe of psychopaths led by the devil. Chatharism had a very large following at one time until they were exterminated by the Pope. It’s only obscure through genocide. Maybe it catches on maybe or doesn’t but nothing venture or uttered nothing gained.

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  33. presbyterianrevival
    August 15, 2017

    Hipster: The Libertarian solution to the immigration problem will cure it overnight – stop paying for them to come here. It’s not rocket science.

    Before the election, this objection might have made sense, but now it should be clear that the whole “immigration-hawk” routine is just basic zog faggotry. “We need an israeli-style police state because of the Mexicans”. Well, how come we didn’t need our precious israeli helpers before, since the Mexicans have always been there? What changed? The jews took over with their infernal Oriental despotism, that’s what. It’s that same despotism which is the source of every racial and immigration problem in the country.

    So now we get to subsidize more Chinese and Hindoo “high-skilled” immigration, what a joke. All we need is Freedom. All we want is Freedom. And we are going to get Freedom, whether the jews like it or not.

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    • Hipster Racist
      August 15, 2017

      The libertarians refuse to be pro-white – until they do that, they are just as faggoty as the typical cuckservatives. Personally I’m far more concerned with Chinese and Hindoos taking jobs than poor Mexicans washing the dishes, but you get what you get.

      I have my issues with the “Alt Right” but the libertarians aren’t even playing the game. Get a libertarian to say what you just said and he’ll win in a landslide. But I’m not holding my breath, libertarians tend to be religious fanatics who think that you just need some “system” and all human problems will be solved. “Liberty” is a property of White societies, no other race is interested in “liberty.” It’s a White thing.

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      • presbyterianrevival
        August 15, 2017

        “Pro-White” got co-opted and is now pro-zog. Liberty means freedom from zog. I don’t think Liberty is a broadly White ideal, rather it’s an American ideal and an Anglo-Saxon ideal. White ethnics (jews and papists and whatnot) are typically horrified by Liberty. They actually like feudalism – they want three hots and a cot.

        The altright is jewish, QED. They’re trying to get people to punch down at less fortunate peoples, at women etc. That’s a bad idea, because then the jews get to white knight and be seen as gallant. Ron Paul told us to bring people together for Liberty. Our ancestors told us that discretion is the better part of valor. You’ll find that a coalition of all races for freedom and against jewish tyranny is the winning ticket and the most pro-white position possible.

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      • Hipster Racist
        August 15, 2017

        The idea of a “coalition of all races for freedom” is nothing but cuckservatism. No one of any other race gives a damn about liberty. You’ll get laughed out of the room trying to “united the races against Jewish tyranny” as well.

        I’m sorry, this isn’t 1999 – that rhetoric lost decades ago, it’s over. Libertarianism was co-opted by Jew “Austrian economists” and the openly Zionist Ayn Rand Institute years ago.

        You don’t even believe what you are saying.

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      • eyeslevel
        August 16, 2017

        @Pres

        Pro-white is the one term that can’t be co-opted. No endless arguing over its definition. “I’m pro-white; you’re anti-white.” It explains perfectly what we’re about.

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  34. Felix
    August 15, 2017

    Libertarians for the lulz. The non-white “immigrants and refugees” aren’t financing their own journeys into America and Europe, they are being airlifted into America and Europe by a hostile elite who are using unlimited banker bucks to pay for our replacement. Returning to some kind of “real free fucking market” is NOT going to save white people. We have enemies with unlimited economic power dedicated to white genocide in EVERY white nation on earth. Look at how the Pajeets are using muh free markets to colonize our towns, schools, universities and corporations. An explicit white ethnostate must be the clearly stated goal. No more fucking around.

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  35. bob saffron
    August 15, 2017
  36. bob saffron
    August 16, 2017

    Mike Enoch seemed very insistent that the Challenger guy acted purely in self-defense. If it was real, it’s better the truth come out in court rather than from Alt-Right advocates. If it was a psy-op, then those machinations should be the focus.

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    • Hipster Racist
      August 16, 2017

      @bob saffron

      From what I’ve seen and read, the most likely scenario is that his car was surrounded by a mob, they started hitting it with bats, he panicked and hit the gas. He’s also supposedly mentally ill and was on heavily drugged so a panic reaction is even more likely.

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  37. Hipster Racist
    August 16, 2017

    Just how stupid are the “Alt Right” kids anyway?

    I blame the god-damn anime for alienating young whites from American/Western/European culture. When I’m President, ALL anime fans are going into the ovens.

    Read: young Alt Righters suggest maybe waving American flags and using American symbolism might be more effective than Hollywood Nazi imagery and anime cartoons. Some just realized that all of the American Founding Fathers were actually White Nationalists.

    I know, right? Who knew?

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  38. Boopedybop
    August 16, 2017

    Hipster, what do you think about this?

    I’ve been reading some other blogs and some people (particularly those in the UK) say that Joe Owens is a spy, but I think he makes some points that are similar to yours (even if some others are a bit looney).

    I think the most important argument he makes is that these ‘groups’ have to actually focus on issues that ‘ordinary Whites’ care about first, before they can talk about ‘the evil Zionists’ etc… They have to win people over first, instead of just jacking each other off.

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    • Hipster Racist
      August 16, 2017

      @Boopedybop

      Joe Owen is right about a lot of things. One good point he makes, if the local white residents don’t care about these Confederate statues, why is the “Alt Right” making them an issue?

      If the “Alt Right” really cared about Confederate status, what are they doing in practical terms to save them?

      Have that canvassed the city’s white neighborhoods and spoken with the people, organized them, prompted them to call the city council?

      Of course not. The Alt Right doesn’t do practical politics. Richard Spencer used to pretend he was going to use NPI to do that, but he changed his mind. What does Spencer do now?

      He holds radical and edgy “street theater” – he’s the “Fa” to the “Anti-Fa.” It makes for good TV and good youtube videos, but of course it’s all theater, and no substance.

      If it wasn’t for Trump’s latest presser yesterday defending the marchers, the entire Charlottesville event would have been basically a failure. Marchers would have been fired from their jobs, the media would continue to have lied about how “neo-Nazi terrorists” were attacking people, etc.

      But Trump saved it.

      So maybe Spencer is playing 3-D chess, just like Trump. Let’s not forget that Spencer is friends with Trump’s Jewish speech writer Stephen Miller, and they went to school together.

      I notice something else too – Spencer’s fan base is getting younger all the time. Now Spencer is directly appealing to the (((Daily Stormer))) base, and as Anglin has told us, the readership of (((Daliy Stormer))) ranges from about 12-25.

      There are a lot of 16 year olds that believe that what is happening with Spencer and the Alt Right is really new, I had one even say it was “just like 1930.” These kids don’t remember the 80s, or the 90s, or the 2000s, so they don’t realize that this stuff happens all the time, the only difference is now you can see more of it on youtube. So a lot of these 16 years think that there will be “fighting in the streets” and that a “New Hitler” will emerge – maybe Spencer himself – and something something we live happily ever after.

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      • guest
        August 16, 2017

        I was just listening to Mike Enoch & Guildhausen on counter-currents.

        And was chuckling every time they used terms like “war” or “klicks” (1km).

        Like the “battle” of Berkeley lol.

        War certainly looked different here in the Balkans.

        In a way I’m happy it’s over for them now, it’s a blessing.

        Thanks antifa, thanks for drawing out the clowns!

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      • Hipster Racist
        August 16, 2017

        @guest

        For over a year, since 2016, I’ve been asking anyone who will listen: what is the point of these “street battles” with Antifa? What does it accomplish? I’ve been asking, what does holding up a sign on a street corner accomplish? What is the goal of the action and is that goal being met by the action?

        That’s typically when I get banned, or trolled, or cursed out, or accused of “punching right” or not being “hardcore” enough.

        But no one has ever been able to give me a good answer yet. Well Richard Spencer did, in one of his video, make a decent attempt to answer the question and responded to the points in the article “Fa vs. Antifa” here, which I posted on RADIX Journal. The answer was the it gets media coverage from our perspecive in the social media, on youtube. Which is fair enough – it’s like a Reality TV Show, from our perspective, that people can watch on youtube. Fair enough.

        But I’m still not sure what it’s supposed to accomplish.

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      • Boopedybop
        August 16, 2017

        Agreed.

        I really get the feeling that the Daily Stormer crowd are becoming a sort of youth cult, with Anglin as their ‘dear leader’. Almost like a sort of Hollywood version of the Hitler Youth (no surprise there, considering the Daily Stormer promotes the Hollywood Neeeeeezi image).

        Everytime I (even just subtly) bring up the fact that he’s essentially one of the biggest hypocrites that has ever lived his ‘cultist’ crowd comes to defend him saying ‘don’t countersignal’ ‘you’re just a virgin because you don’t support ‘White Sharia” ‘civic nationalist’ etc… They will agree with/parrot anything he says, not matter how utterly ridiculous (again, the perfect example being ‘White Sharia’).

        I’ll admit that I was close to becoming one of those ‘cultists’ early on after I ‘woke up’ to, well, everything. Hell, I still tell many of my friends that I ‘subscribe to many of the beliefs that Mosley had’, and I’ve only really began to recognize how ‘cringe’ that sounds, even if Mosley was probably the most ‘moderate’ Fascist out there. Indeed, many of my (online) friends (most of them young, like you said) have gone deep into that ‘uber Nazi’/DS crowd, and it’s kind of sad.

        I just want someone who will actually attempt to ‘do’ something about all this. I mean, I understand that ‘the system’ is against us and all that. But what is engaging in theater going to do for us? It’s theater, it’s not real.

        People bring up ‘the overton window’ and explain that all this craziness shifts it further in the direction we want it to go, but you still need a party/’politician’ who will emerge to push those ideas into the mainstream. Without that, all that’s going to happen is it will reach the end point and then begin to shift back.

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      • Hipster Racist
        August 16, 2017

        @Boopedybop

        I wouldn’t really take the (((Daily Stormer))) trolls seriously when they pretend to “believe in” Anglin or act all cult like. What the “He will not divide us” protests in Manhattan showed us is that a HUGE percentage of people who are into the Daily Stormer are Korean, Chinese, Japanese, “happas” and Jewish boys.

        Part of their “cult like” attitude is itself a form of trolling. I’m SURE there are plenty that take it quite seriously but I’m also sure that there are quite a few that don’t at all – they just want to see if they can convince other people online that they “really believe” in whatever.

        The “overton window” thing is also somewhat of a troll. Some kids truly do believe it but some are clearly just trying to see if they can convince people to act stupid.

        Remember too Anglin said he makes 50k a year off of the Daily Stormer, it’s a full time job for them. I know of at least one “not really white” rapist who has supposedly give a lot of money to Anglin. It’s a scam, essentially. There’s one born every minute – think of how much kids spend on video games, and the (((Daily Stormer))) is sort of like a video game, an “online LARP.”

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      • Sam J.
        August 19, 2017

        “… what is the point of these “street battles”…”

        Simple.

        The whole entire establishment agrees that we need to wash out the Whites with mass immigration and damn their forefathers for even existing. With these protest IMMEDIATELY you know their narrative DOES NOT have total support. Without them you would never hear a peep that there was any question at all.

        To ignore this is to miss the point. Bad press…so…any press for us is good because without it we would have…NONE.

        So if they alarm the population about the Nazis…good. Maybe they will actually look at the websites where the Nazis are talking about the Jews and how we’re being pushed into being a minority. Much of it will turn people off but, they will see and over time the raw evidence will stack up. What the Jews are doing is the same old shit they’ve done for centenaries, even thousands of years and they’ve been kicked out of every single country they’ve ever been to because they can’t help themselves. Their long term behavior seems to be no different from that of a tribe of psychopaths and nobody can stand to have psychopaths around them so they cast them out.

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      • Hipster Racist
        August 19, 2017

        @Sam J

        I’m sorry, that “strategy” has ALREADY been shown to be a complete failure. These morons have been marching around in the streets for 50 years. As a way to manipulate the media and “get our message out” – it has ALREADY failed.

        Ramzpaul doing his silly videos has ALREADY proven far more effective than these stupid “muh streets” battles. Blogging is FAR more effective than holding up a stupid sign on a street corner like some sort of nutjob that belongs in the looney bin.

        The proof is that when there are not ENOUGH morons in “muh streets” the Jews hire actors to play the part.

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      • Sam J.
        August 19, 2017

        I might add that only a few hundred Alt-Right people, a totally unknown bunch, got the attention of the whole planet and if anyone reads what they say they will see they are against pushing Whites out of their homes with mass immigration and that they blame the Jews for a lot of this. The normies may not get it right away but the facts are on our side.

        This is a WIN.

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      • Hipster Racist
        August 19, 2017

        “got the attention of the whole planet

        No – that is 100% FALSE. The MEDIA got the attention of the entire planet, not “a few hundred Alt-Right people.”

        If the media had chosen to not cover them, no one would know about them.

        The fact the media CHOSE to cover them says all you need to know.

        Who is William Binney? No one knows because the media ignored him. Who is Edward Snowden? EVERYONE knows because the media chose to cover him.

        I’m trying to keep things in the real world here, not spout glittering generalities. Let’s try to be precise and discuss FACTS and REALITY and not engage in fantasy.

        No one “gets the attention of the media” – the media CHOOSES to broadcast certain things and CHOOSES to not broadcast certain things.

        If I had my way, I’d “fire” every one of these idiot marches and instead HIRE 200 bright young college kids to go door to door with a clipboard signing people up for a political lobby. That would have far more of an effect than these stupid “protests” – which is of course why it’s never done.

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      • Sam J.
        August 20, 2017

        “…I’m sorry, that “strategy” has ALREADY been shown to be a complete failure…”

        Look I respect you, I don’t hate you or want to fight, I’m sure your better looking than me, smarter, richer, a great hero and all that but what you said is total bullshit. it worked for the Nazis, it worked for the Communist, it worked for the Nationalist in Japan. Many others.

        You keep going on about the Nazis. Well I’m NOT a Nazi but the Nazis make my positions look reasonable. I like that. They move the bar. Also there’s the practical side that no Nazi ever called me a Nazi, racist or Anti-Semite. They’re not my enemy. They’re not yours. The more they clamp down on the Nazis free speech the more people will see the lying and perfidy of the the anti-Whites. You keep on about the Nazis being Jew agents. and I keep saying, it doesn’t matter. In the past you would be right because of the vast amounts of money needed to counter the propaganda of the Jews. We don’t live in that world anymore. The truth is not the same anymore. They have no magic bullet anymore. You will see. In order to be a propaganda agent effectively you MUST tell a little truth. All of these little truths about the Jews add up. People are not complete idiots. They see the press lies they assume the Nazis are too but they also see stuff that the press will never in a million years talk about at all. If this sparks their interest then they can look farther. They will find how fucked up the Jews are and their history of screwing up every place they go. If they don’t then so what. These people who have no curiosity or don’t look into anything will just believe what the lying media says anyways so we’re right back where we started with this incurious group. They don’t matter in the long run. It’s the people that get fired up that do. How do you think the Jews have done so well after all this time. If anyone bothers them they bitch, raise hell and protest. Now they have more power now and better resources but that can change. They had a grip on Germany FAR stronger than they do on the present US. I think they overstepped. If we can stay out of Jews wars so that they can defeat us we can whip them. Once they get whipped this time they’re fucked good because the Chinese, the Asians, the Indians(dot) all know about their shit and will refuse to let them take over like we did with all our good feels.

        I wonder if it’s you want to be respectable? Thought of as a great thinker”. Myself I just want the Jews out and control the massive rabble packed on top of us in our country. That’s all. While I get a little bothered by what people say about me at times mostly I’ve just gotten over it. I don’t care.

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      • Hipster Racist
        August 20, 2017

        You can’t even be bothered to use the correct word. “Nazi” is a slur for the “NSDAP” the National German Worker’s Party and “national socialism.”

        Imagine how it would come across if someone were to say, “Hey, it worked for the Libtards, let’s be Libtards!”

        This is a perfectly simple calculation here: Anti-white Jews call us “Nazis” and say we want to kill six million Jews. For some crazy reason I cannot even begin to fathom, some other people agree with these anti-White Jews, and say we ARE in fact Nazis, but Hitler never killed any Jews so it’s ok.

        I don’t get it, none of that makes any sense to me. I know for a FACT it’s a complete loser strategy that has lost, and is losing, and will always lose. I know for a FACT it’s a complete loser strategy promoted by losers like (((the Daily Stormer))) and (((weev))) and various cranks and FBI agents like the NSM.

        Most importantly – we are either of you trying to convince ME? If you really believed your own argument, you would go to CNN.com, or FOXNews.com, or Breitbart.com, and you would be saying “hey, the Holocaust is fake, the Nazis weren’t so bad, and compared to them I’m reasonable!”

        But neither of you are doing that, I can only assume precisely because you know no one would listen to you and they would just think you are a crank. You know perfectly well that that strategy won’t get anywhere, so again, why are you trying to convince ME?

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      • Sam J.
        August 20, 2017

        Forgot something. I look at a lot of the Left and as long as they’re not anti-White or straight up Communist I don’t really have a big problem with them. They hate banks, so do I, they hate Oligarchical big business, so do I, I have a lot in common with them. I want clean air, solar power, electric cars. I don’t want people dying in the streets. It’s the Jews. The Jews are pushing the left into this anti-White attacks. Most of even the antifa out there in the streets would not be attacking people if the paid agitators of Soros weren’t there to egg them on. It’s the Jew that’s my enemy.

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  39. Nightingale
    August 16, 2017

    Hipster, here’s a question for you. Your answer will help me win over some normies.

    I am inclined to agree with your assertions that:

    “Anyone waving a swastika around is 100% anti-white, either personally, or being handled by anti-whites. The weight of 50 years of history shows that unambiguously'”

    and

    “What is a “Neo-Nazi” anyway? It refers to a series of groups started by Jewish anti-whites and the FBI in the 1960s to defame white people. Most “Neo-Nazi” leaders have been Jewish and the ones who weren’t Jewish were – as far as I can tell, ALL of them – FBI informants.”

    * Are there any famous and semi-proven examples of this? I would really like to cite a couple specific examples in discussions with normies. Otherwise it sounds like a believable but unproven conspiracy theory.
    * Are there any documented examples where the neo-Nazi leaders turned out to be FBI?
    * Are there any documented examples where vocally anti-Semitic neo-Nazi leaders turned out to be Jewish?
    *Best of all, are there any documented examples where vocally anti-Semitic neo-Nazi leaders turned out to be Jewish activists in disguise (obviously hoaxing as opposed to just independently turning to fascism)?
    * And best of best of all, is there any documentation of any of this in any mainstream sources that a normie couldn’t just ignore?

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    • Hipster Racist
      August 16, 2017

      @Nightingale

      It’s extremely well documented but neither the mainstream media nor the “right wingers” seem to want to point it out. Just a small sample:

      https://jewise.wordpress.com/jews-posing-as-neo-nazis/

      1946 to 1979: The Animist Party and National Renaissance Party (NRP), early U.S. “neo-Nazi groups,” are organized under titular leader James Madole, actually a cat’s-paw of the Anti-Defamation League. Former Bolshevik spy Vladimir Stepankowsky, Emanuel Trujillo (alias ‘Mana Truhill’), and other Jewish and/or Communist agents of the ADL are Madole’s main source of financial support and organizational talent from the beginning. During the 1950s the NRP emerges as the most sensational and visible American “neo-Nazi group,” with its brown-shirted swastika-banded “stormtroopers” frequently staging street demonstrations in New York City that often and predictably deteriorate into riots. All related expenses, including the uniforms, are defrayed by the NRP’s main benefactor, the ADL. The swastika is displayed at ADL spy Truhill’s insistence. As “liaison officer” and de facto leader of the NRP by 1954, Truhill is in constant contact with other right-wing groups and individuals all over the world. His real work is name-gathering these people and incriminating them by coaxing extreme anti-Semitic remarks from them, thus collecting juicy tidbits for the ADL’s vast library of dossiers. (Joseph P. Kamp, The Bigots Behind the Swastika Spree (New York: Headlines, 1960))

      1950s & ’60s: The foreign intelligence division of Stasi, Communist East Germany’s secret police apparatus, infiltrates spies into West Germany to pose as “neo-Nazis engaged in anti-Semitic vandalism,” a psy-ops campaign organized by Stasi spy-master Markus Wolf—a Jew. ADL director Benjamin R. Epstein follows through by traveling to Germany and advocating long-term Stalinist “re-education” for West Germans. In other words this is just the Jew World Empire performing a “pretext operation” so it can further torment people it hates (Joseph P. Kamp, The Bigots Behind the Swastika Spree (New York: Headlines, 1960); Michael Kallenbach, Stasi Files reveal links to anti-Semitic attacks in former West Germany, 12 March 1993 Jewish Chronicle (UK))

      1965-1971: The Canadian Jewish Congress (CJC; Canada’s premier Jewish advocacy organization) decides to promote John Beattie, an insignificant fringe figure, to “public menace” status along with his ridiculous “Canadian Nazi Party,” Canada’s closest thing to the NRP. Most of Beattie’s ten “followers” are actually CJC spies / agents provocateurs. Following a curious, probably staged incident in May 1965, Beattie is suddenly “newsworthy,” his irrelevant extreme views palmed off as “news” on the front pages of most Toronto dailies. Only the “conservative” Toronto Telegram notices the weird smell and exposes the food chain behind Beattie, for example CJC operative Henrick Van Der Windt’s involvement (issue of 25 June 1965). Soon the 100-year-old newspaper is being abandoned by major advertisers and sabotaged from within by union employees, finally collapsing six years later. Thanks to a down-payment donated by Van Der Windt, ergo the CJC, Beattie is able to move his outfit into an inflammatory Toronto address.
      Beattie’s circus freak act is suddenly so “important” and prominent because the CJC wants to manipulate Canadians into accepting federal laws criminalizing ‘hate speech,’ laws it’s been conniving to shove down their throats since the 1930s and is preparing via the ‘Cohen Committee’ in Ottawa, also beginning in 1965. As §319 of the Criminal Code and §13.1 of the Canadian Human Rights Act, titled “telephonic communication of hate,” these laws are sgned into effect in 1971, after which the Canadian Nazi Party promptly implodes. (Patrick Walsh, The Unholy Alliance: A Documented Exposé of How Agents Provocateur Infiltrate and Misdirect, then Destroy, Well-Meaning Patriotic Groups (Flesherton, Ontario : Canadian Intelligence Publications, 1986) The John Beattie Case; Canadian Association For Free Expression, John Beattie to Expose the Nazi Party That Never Was (press release), 26 November 2000)

      • June 25, 1978: Frank “Collin” the Heartless Nazi Monster leads his “Nazi march” on its alternate route through Chicago. During preceding weeks “Collin” achieved national notoriety with his outrageous original plan to march through the suburb of Skokie, the largest community of “Holocaust survivors” on earth. His “right to march” is championed by Jewish attorney and purported “civil liberties advocate” Alan Dershowitz.

      “Collin’s” real family name: Cohen. He’s Jewish. His father is a “Holocaust survivor.”

      His “Fuhrer” career is destroyed when this comes to light, but most Americans are none the wiser, so three years later “Frank ‘Collin’ the Nazi Monster” and his march become the subject of a nationwide made-for-television slobber-fest titled Skokie, one of many such propaganda bombs during these years. The original was NBC’s eight-hour miniseries Holocaust, a tele-orgy of fake “history” that aired two months before Collin’s march. The whole Skokie affair thus proves instrumental in catapulting Holocaust Guilt into mainstream American consciousness right when the Jewish psy-war on America is shifting gears in exactly this direction, thus Dershowitz’s real interest.

      • February, 1979: Using his frequent alias of “James Guttman,” Mordecai Levy of the Jewish Defense League swaggers into the National Park Service office in Independence Hall, Philadelphia, dressed in full Nazi drag to obtain a permit for a “Nazi rally.” With permit in hand, he next contacts KKK chapters, Nazi clubs, leftist and Jewish groups, black churches, etc., alternately “inviting them to participate” / “alerting them to an outrage.” His own banner reads: “Hitler was Right! Gas the Commie Jews!” At this time Levy is an asset of the Anti-Defamation League (as revealed by ADL fact-finder Gail Gans to Village Voice reporter Robert Friedman). Reporters penetrate Levy’s sordid plans and the permit is canceled under a cloud of astonishing headlines: “Jew Applied For The Permit For Nazi Rally” (Philadelphia Journal); “Nazi Rally Rouser Really Jewish” (Philadelphia Bulletin). Had Levy’s charade not been uncovered, he might have succeeded in engineering a major race riot— but it sure would have made “Nazis” look bad! (Robert Friedman, Oy Vey, Make My Day, 8/22/1989 Village Voice, p. 15).

      • December 7, 1981: Minneapolis television station WCCO airs an in-house documentary, Armies of the Right, to expose “the disturbing hidden world of paramilitary right-wing extremism in the U.S.” The program’s most virulent anti-Semitic rhetoric is uttered by one “Jimmy Anderson,” actually James R. Rosenberg, one of several ADL agents provocateurs known to have infiltrated the Queens, New York chapter of the Christian Patriot’s Defense League, expressly to agitate the group as “rabid anti-Semites.” The producers of Armies of the Right know who and what Rosenberg really is but withhold this information from their audience.

      • 1990s: The Canadian Jewish Congress gets back in the act, this time using member and Canadian government (CSIS) spy Grant Bristow to infiltrate the Heritage Front, a Canadian-German advocacy group, to act as an agent provocateur urging violence against Jews. Sure enough some of Bristow’s dupes are arrested at a well-known Jewish hangout after raiding it and provoking a brawl. Totally disgraced by this moronic action, the Heritage Front rapidly disintegrates—obviously the real purpose from the beginning.

      Mid-1990s: “Davis Wolfgang Hawke,” a.k.a. “Commander Bo Decker,” etc., makes himself the new darling of the “neo-Nazi” movement by launching a tiny, flamboyant “Nazi” group, the Knights of Freedom Nationalist Party. Many parallels to the John Beattie and Frank “Collin” cases are striking, not least being the absurd amount of attention “Hawke” receives from media and law enforcement.
      The name given to “Hawke” by his parents: Andrew Britt Greenbaum. Though posing as a Nazi in South Carolina, he’s really a Jew from Connecticut. As is usual with “Kosher Nazis,” Greenbaum is a comic caricature whose moronic public image is totally deliberate and cultivated. It’s stagecraft.

      The above examples span 50 years, going back to immediately after the war that created their mold, and add up to an unmistakable pattern. Whenever a social phenomenon this sensational impinges so directly on Jews and their interests, we should always ask qui bono?— who really benefits? Naïve “White Nationalists” NEVER benefit. They just fall ever so neatly into their assigned stereotype of “dangerous morons,” which leaves the question open—but it has a definite answer!

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      • bob saffron
        August 16, 2017

        @ HR:
        Thanks for that list, much appreciated.

        Re: Andrea Nolen’s original hypothesis, ie. that a Trump administration’s more stringent stance on immigration was a price worth paying for action against Iran – do you think it still holds water?

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      • Hipster Racist
        August 17, 2017

        @bob saffron

        I suspect that Trump’s views on a lot of things have changed considerably over the last 2 years. I bet that when Trump started running he took it for granted that Iran was bad, Israel was good, etc. I am certain that the last two years have clued him in about a lot of things. I suspect Trump now understands the relationship between Russia and Iran and I’m sure the Deep State has Trump’s back when he resists Israel lobby pressure to start a war with Iran.

        But also remember that my views on the Jewish Problem are a hell of a lot more nuanced than a lot of people’s. I’ve long said that the Zionist Jews are not as functionally anti-white as the Cosmopolitan Jews. It’s not 2002 anymore, when the Zionist neo-cons could support a Jewish state in Palestine while attacking Whites here. The neo-cons were driven out of power and the actual conservatives did a pretty good job of exposing them. Now even basic bitch conservatives with an IQ over room temperature know the deal – I’m talking about the conservatives at places like Taki and Unz and all the various blogs.

        Glenn Beck style neo-con Jew-loving is about as popular as 1980s style TV televangelist faith healders. There may be a few geriatrics in the old folks home that still listen to his radio show but no one who matters. Glenn Beck is almost bankrupt.

        It’s a new day.

        Trump is turning out far better than I ever expected and it seems to be Bannon’s influence.

        Which means there will likely be some kind of false flag terrorist attack to get us into a war.

        Watch this space.

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      • bob saffron
        August 17, 2017

        It will be interesting to see how Trump navigates any turbulence in the financial markets.
        “This overall assessment incorporated the staff’s judgment that, since the April assessment, vulnerabilities associated with asset valuation pressures had edged up from notable to elevated, as asset prices remained high or climbed further, risk spreads narrowed, and expected and actual volatility remained muted in a range of financial markets”
        https://www.federalreserve.gov/monetarypolicy/fomcminutes20170726.htm

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      • Sam J.
        August 19, 2017

        Great list. Thanks!

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  40. icareviews
    August 16, 2017

    Hipster Racist, you’re neither a Millennial nor Generation Y. You’re older than me, and I’m on the borderline between Generation X and Millennial. That makes you Generation X.

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  41. guest
    August 17, 2017

    I always told people don’t be the white devil our enemies seek, don’t be the big foot which gets caught, because the hunt was clearly on, the hunting parties dispersed.

    Now they got one alive, prepare for the parades!

    The MSM is reporting on this like it’s a second 9/11.

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  42. guest
    August 17, 2017

    LOL did anyone see, Alex Jones caught in the sky net!

    “Alex Jones: Nazis in Charlottesville ‘Were Jewish Actors’ – Newsweek”

    That’s what he said exactly:

    “I mean, quite frankly, I’ve been to these events, a lot of the KKK guys with their hats off look like they’re from the cast of “Seinfeld.” Literally they’re just Jewish actors. Nothing against Jews in general, but they are leftists Jews that want to create this clash and they go dress up as Nazis. I have footage in Austin — we’re going to find it somewhere here at the office — where it literally looks like cast of “Seinfeld” or like Howard Stern in a Nazi outfit. They all look like Howard Stern. They almost got like little curly hair down, and they’re just up there heiling Hitler. You can tell they are totally uncomfortable, they are totally scared, and it’s all just meant to create the clash.”

    Seinfeld himself was once caught giving the salute on camera:

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    • guest
      August 17, 2017

      And here is Alex Jones defending himself today:

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      August 17, 2017

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    • Sam J.
      August 19, 2017

      I don’t what know what to think about Alex Jones. He’s like a huge false flag yet he says some of the most on the point stuff sometimes. I have a video of him saying something like,”It’s all the Jews but you can’t say it”.

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  43. guest
    August 17, 2017

    If this doesn’t significantly calm down by tomorrow
    you people better lock yourself in over the weekend.

    I predict several random whites getting lynched.

    Someones gotta pay, that’s the message on social media.

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    • Boopedybop
      August 17, 2017

      Good thing I live in Eur…..Oh…….Wait…

      Dang it…

      Another attack in Barcelona, in case you guys didn’t hear :/

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  44. james
    August 18, 2017

    Disappointing.

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  45. Primarius Krone
    August 19, 2017

    Am idea for a new drinking game. Every time HR types in “Joshua Goldberg”, you have a shot of your favourite poison.

    I challenge anyone to leave the page sober. 🙂

    All kidding aside, I have very little intelligent commentary to add to all of this or the discussion on the other page about the Alt-Right Doco project.

    Honestly, I’m about a bee’s dick away from closing all my “Political” accounts and just living my life as best as a good hypocrite can (just like everyone else I know.) It still can be done for a while longer – if you know where to go. For my kids, well, that’s another question.

    Perhaps I can add one coherent thought:

    I don’t think any aspiring politician with a pro-White stance can stand-up to infiltration, subversion or submission (to you know who) in the long run. Not in this day and age.

    In Australia, one “Nationalist” politician recently turned up to parliament in a Burka to make a point about “Islamic Terrorism” and “Women’s Equality.” It always turns into a clown shown. They’re desperate for attention.

    Or, maybe a few more Charlottesvilles is all we need to kick the can and get the show rolling. Is this the plan after all? Or hasn’t anyone anticipated that possibility?

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    • Hipster Racist
      August 19, 2017

      @PK

      Good game – prepare to get wasted, I’ll never shut up about Joshua Goldberg. They had to ban me because I kept bringing up such uncomfortable truths – that most of their movement is fake and it’s meant to harm White people.

      By the way, something hilarious just happened: Kessler, the guy who organized the rally, posted how he was glad that woman got killed and how she deserved it and linked to the Daily Stormer mocking the dead girl.

      Richard Spencer – no less – immediately denounced him and said he would no longer have anything to do with Kessler and demanded everyone else shun him as well.

      Then, (((Weev))) claimed that it was him, that he had “hacked” into Kessler’s account and left a link to the Daily Stormer mocking the dead woman.

      Will Richard Spencer now denounce the (((Daily Stormer))) Anglin and Weev?

      If he doesn’t … ?

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      • Primarius Krone
        August 19, 2017

        I think we’ve all been wondering what Richard’s been up to. Not just him of course. This year has been one of the hardest for me to interpret.

        I wonder if Richard’s just been enjoying all the media attention as of late. It must be addicting.

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      • Hipster Racist
        August 19, 2017

        @PK

        Spencer has become a media celebrity and liberal women are writing sexual fantasies about him in left-wing publications like Jezebel.com. I don’t know if he has the time or privacy for any extra-curricular activities (his wife lives on another continent, I’m sure they have an “arrangement”) but if I were Richard Spencer I’d be banging every hot liberal lawyer chick in Washington DC who wants the bragging rights of having seduced “America’s Most Famous Nazi.”

        I also suspect that Spencer might have a little problem with the drinkey-drinkey which likely affects his judgement.

        So far, having Spencer out there is better than not having Spencer out there – which is only true of Spencer and not at all true of virtually everyone else in “the movement” which would do us more favors by just staying home and shutting up.

        But I still see his “Fa vs. Antifa” clown act as being a huge waste of potential. This guy could have run for Congress as an explicitly pro-white guy and still had a decent chance of winning – no chance of that now.

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      • Primarius Krone
        August 19, 2017

        Jezebel.com? 🙂

        You have quite the reading portfolio my friend. I don’t know where you find the time. Your work rate is incredible – even with all the replies to commends. I on the other hand, get an idea for an article, and five minutes later I lose the motivation.

        But then, I’m very busy with a new family, personal projects and work now days. Either way, keep up the good work.

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    • Hipster Racist
      August 19, 2017

      @PK

      “Get the show rolling.”

      That’s your cognitive failure right there – no offense. You are thinking in terms of a TV Show, like we’re living in a movie. You’re waiting for things to “start” – you’re waiting for the Showdown, the Gun Battle, when we can Finally Take Care of Things.

      That’s not how real life works – that’s how Hollywood movies work. There is no “final showdown.” Things change slowly, they go back and forth, this way and that, ebb and flow. There is never going to be some Final Moment of Revolution where we win and the bad guys lose and then We All Live Happily Ever After. Nor is there going to be a Final Loss where we all die and it’s Game Over.

      None of that is real life at all.

      The reality is things evolve. You’ll grow old, your kids will get married and you’ll have grandkids, you’ll die and they will continue your legacy. All you want to do in this life is help set it up so they have a good future.

      Stop waiting around for the Revolution to Start – there isn’t going to be any “revolution” – the name of the game is *evolution*.

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      • Primarius Krone
        August 19, 2017

        It’s ok, no offense taken.

        “Things change slowly, they go back and forth, this way and that, ebb and flow.”

        Bolshevik revolution started with a pretty good bang, didn’t it?

        Between WW1 and WW2 an awful lot of things changed in a hurry, but frankly you don’t even need to go that far back. There are a lot of examples out there where political winds change pretty rapidly.

        Assad was laughing at Gadafi’s remarks too…

        Look, I don’t know if this will ever happen to us, but I expect if it does, we’ll all be shocked at the pace of change. You don’t feel there is a possibility of this?

        I wonder if there was some guy sitting in Iraq thinking the same thing before the bombs started to fall. “Don’t worry, things change slowly.”

        I have no crystal ball, but I do worry a lot.

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      • Hipster Racist
        August 19, 2017

        @PK

        We live in the world’s superpower, and the USA (and Canada) is in a rather unique position because we’re rather isolated from the globe: an ocean on each side and a vast stretch of land that is actually rather underpopulated.

        Sure, we could see something like major riots in the cities – in fact, we saw that on a regular basis in the Obama administration. Nothing really changed all that quickly, things evolved.

        Hell not too long ago we had airplanes flying into skyscrapers and buildings blowing up. They were saying it was a “New Pearl Harbor” and it “changed everything.” But life went on as before – I got to work at home for 2 weeks, then it was back to the grind, basically nothing had changed.

        As they say there are only two things for sure: death, and taxes. So no matter what happens I’m fairly certain that I’ll be paying taxes, and then I will die.

        For my entire life, since I was a little kid, the right wingers have been predicting The Imminent Economic Collapse, Nuclear War, Communist Invasion, and the Day the ATMs Stop Working, and Rapture are all going to be happening Any Day Now, please buy our frozen food for your bunker.

        But life goes on, pretty much the same as it always does. Things change, people adapt, there are tragedies and triumphs.

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      • Primarius Krone
        August 19, 2017

        On the other hand, I watched my homeland get flooded by millions of “migrants” in past couple of years and literally nothing happened. AfD polls something like 7% and Merkel looks like she’s a shoe-in for the next election.

        Don’t read into my flippant comment(s) too much.

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      • Sam J.
        August 20, 2017

        “…There are a lot of examples out there where political winds change pretty rapidly…”

        I agree Maximum!

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  46. Primarius Krone
    August 19, 2017

    Former homeland, I mean. I guess I betray my sympathies.

    Life goes on. Indeed.

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  47. icareviews
    August 19, 2017

    A comment under the most recent post at Morgoth’s Review:

    “In more Charlottesville fallout, the more rabid libtards are now actually beginning to call for things like Jefferson and George Washington statues to be removed. I don’t understand the black-pilling re this event. It enraged the lefties so much it’s brought their long-term plan for our eradication more out into the open for American normies to see. We’ve complained for years about the “boiling frog” slow destruction of our people, and Charlottesville turned the temperature up so suddenly American normie frogs are beginning to notice they’re being boiled alive. Here’s hoping we can turn those boiling frogs into Pepes.”

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    • Hipster Racist
      August 19, 2017

      @icareviews

      I pretty much agree with that comment and one of the reasons I still hold out some hope for Spencer is that I think it’s possible he knows what he is doing – maybe.

      I think he would have been better off running for Congress, running a respectable pro-White version of the ADL like NPI – he would be David Duke WITHOUT all the baggage David Duke picked up in his youth.

      But maybe, just maybe, Spencer is drawing out the Antifa and the anti-whites – maybe that is purposeful.

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      • icareviews
        August 19, 2017

        I don’t think Spencer is on top of his game since the incident where he got punched. It occurred to me this week that that episode might have been what tipped him toward a misguided belief in the necessity of “right-wing protection squads” and the acceptability of associating with the likes of Heimbach and Damigo. Clearly, he doesn’t know what he’s doing if he trusts people like them, Peinovich, or Kessler. Like you, though, I don’t really see anybody more viable as a figurehead at present. It’s just sad to see him reduced to the status of some beautiful woman with a big, ugly tattoo that will partially disfigure her looks for the rest of her life. I don’t really trust Spencer, but he remains a difficult guy to dislike.

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    • Sam J.
      August 20, 2017

      “…We’ve complained for years about the “boiling frog” slow destruction of our people, and Charlottesville turned the temperature up so suddenly American normie frogs are beginning to notice they’re being boiled alive…”

      Ding, Ding, Ding, what have I been saying. Nazis are good for us.

      Just like Cassius Clay said about the North Vietnamese,”No Vietnamese ever called me a Nigger”. Wise words.

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    • Sam J.
      August 22, 2017

      Baltimore they destroyed the Christopher Columbus memorial.

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  48. guest
    August 21, 2017

    My favorite so far: USC’s Mascot Criticized for Having Name Similar to Robert E. Lee’s Horse

    “It’s unclear whether the original mascot was named for Lee’s Traveller. There are conflicting accounts without attributed sources, and the university does not associate the horse with slavery or the Confederacy.”

    The horse promptly disavowed the alt right!

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  49. eyeslevel
    August 22, 2017

    How does the left deal with Communist LARPers and people marching next to them screaming “Kill white babies!” -? How do they react when one of their guys murders five cops?

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    • Hipster Racist
      August 22, 2017

      @eyeslevel

      The left doesn’t have to deal with it because the media doesn’t cover it.

      Once the pro-White side controls the entire mass media I guess we can start acting just like the Communist LARPers do.

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      • eyeslevel
        August 22, 2017

        No one covered the Dallas cop killing?

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      • Hipster Racist
        August 22, 2017

        @eyeslevel

        The first thing out of the media’s lying mouths when the Dallas shooting happened was to point out that the shooters had been “expelled” from Black Lives Matter and immediately distanced the larger BLM movement from the shooters. Then they covered the story as if it was not political, merely a mental illness issue.

        Then they blamed guns.

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      • eyeslevel
        August 22, 2017

        Maybe we should take a hint from the people in power on how they treat extremists who march along side them.

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      • Hipster Racist
        August 22, 2017

        @eyeslevel

        Maybe we should take a hint from the people in power on how they treat extremists who march along side them.

        Good idea, how do the people in power treat extremists who march along side them?

        1. They pretend they don’t exist or don’t matter and do not give them publicity or media coverage.

        2. When they are forced to acknowledge them, they immediately counter-signal them and distance themselves from them (as the mainstream progressives at TheYoungTurks routinely do when they cannot pretend AntiFA doesn’t exist.)

        As soon as pro-whites take over ABC, NBC, CBS, MTV, FOX, CNN, NYT, WP, NYP, WSJ, and every other major media platform, we can execute strategy number 1. In the meantime, we can execute strategy number 2 right now.

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      • guest
        August 22, 2017

        It’s not “rape” rape when they do.

        And to paraphrase El Rushbo:

        “It’s journalistic malpractice, except it’s not because it’s not journalism. It’s advocacy disguised as journalism, they are advocates for one side, but they never, ever admit that.”

        Hence it’s heads they win, tails you lose, with the media.

        That’s why you don’t talk to the media.

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