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The Chickens, the Bulls, “The Skull”, and the Jews: Did Israel Own J. Edgar Hoover?

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Unrest at the Stonewall Inn, 1969. Site of the coming-out party for today’s gay rights movement, the Stonewall was a disgusting dive operated by the Genovese crime family.

J. Edgar Hoover, it is now generally recognized, was a woefully compromised public servant who allowed organized crime to prosper under his auspices – all while pursuing chimerical communist bogeys into the fifties and sixties. Did the Israelis hold Hoover’s leash? The answer may lie with Hoover’s involvements with Roy Cohn, Meyer Lansky, and a homosexual blackmail operation utilizing underaged boys.

Justin Cascio summarizes the New York syndicate-homo connection at Mafia Genealogy – also introducing an odd character nicknamed “The Skull”:

Lucky Luciano built the Genovese monopoly on gay nightlife in New York City in the 1930s. […]

Of the Five Families of New York, Lucky Luciano’s was the one we now call the Genovese crime family. […] Until 1957, when Vito Genovese went to prison for trafficking heroin through his gay bars, it was called the Luciano crime family.

Luciano had long experience in running brothels, bars, prostitution rings, and even drug smuggling. […] Investing in “fairy places” or “fag bars” was part of a diverse portfolio of organized crime, and an area in which the Luciano family excelled. Their monopoly on gay nightlife in New York City would not be broken for fifty years. […]

Apartment owners and employers did not have to rent to, or employ, people they knew or suspected were queer. A bar could lose its license not only by permitting same-sex kissing, touching, or dancing in their establishment, but simply by allowing gay people to congregate. […]

The businesses that served the LGBT community, were those that paid off the police. And that meant gay bars were run by the mafia. Historians have connected all five of the families to gay bars in New York, with the majority belonging to the Genovese. […]

Mafia-managed bars ran the rackets that had always accompanied the gay bar trade, since at least the beginning of the century: prostitution of both sexes, including minors, pornography sale and production, drug trafficking, blackmail, and extortion.

In addition to crime, poor conditions and sleazy business practices went along with black markets, and gay bars were no exception. The Stonewall Inn was re-opened in 1967 by Tony Lauria, the son of a mafioso, with Genovese family backing […] The missing amenities included an emergency exit and running water. In 1969, the Stonewall was responsible for transmitting hepatitis by serving drinks in dirty, used glasses. […]

Matty “the Horse” Ianniello, acting boss of the Genovese family for ten years (between prison terms for racketeering), was widely acknowledged as “the Genovese capo who controlled much of New York’s gay nightlife.” He paid off the police to protect Lauria’s Stonewall.

Ed Murphy (1926-1989), born Edward Francis Murphy and nicknamed “The Skull,” was a former pro wrestler (not to be confused with another wrestler called Skull Murphy, who died in 1970). Ed was a mafioso, and in 1969, a closeted gay man. He ran prostitution rings, and worked as a bouncer in gay bars. The Skull was working the door of the Stonewall the night of the police raid that kicked off the riots. […]

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Ed “The Skull” Murphy photographed in 1978

The predation of both the police and the mafia were the targets of the fury that was unleashed when police raided the Stonewall Inn in June, 1969. One of the goals shared by the Gay Activists Alliance and Gay Liberation Front, two groups that came out of the Stonewall protests, was to get organized crime out of the gay bars. But with gay liberation, those same bars were now cash cows, and the mafia was less likely than ever to want to let go of them. It would be another generation before Giuliani’s aggressive targeting of organized crime in New York in the mid-1980s broke the monopoly on gay bars in the city. […]

Christopher Street Liberation Day, as it was first called, commemorated the Stonewall uprising on its first anniversary, 28 June 1970, with a march from Greenwich Village to Central Park. Four years later the Stonewall’s old bouncer, Ed Murphy, convinced the committee to reverse the parade route to its present trajectory, so it ended on Christopher Street, where attendees could drink in the many Mafia-owned establishments. Murphy came out as gay in the late 70s, and rode in the parade with a sash calling him the Mayor of Christopher Street. He died of AIDS in 1989. Murphy’s obituary called him a gay rights leader.1

Cascio mentions Murphy’s callings as a bouncer and pimp, but neglects to indicate that this “gay rights leader” was also a pedophile. “Murphy was a Gambino associate who banged underage boys – even suspected of killing one or more – and yet neither his mob ties nor degenerate proclivities seemed to garner much outrage from the larger LGBT community,” writes Phillip Crawford, Jr., author of The Mafia and the Gays. “The unfortunate fact is that throughout the 1970s many gay organizations – although certainly not all – advocated for outright repeal of age-of-consent laws.”2 “From the 1960s through the 1980s the FBI used Ed ‘the Skull’ Murphy as a confidential informant and cooperating witness,” Crawford also reveals. “Murphy […] was a notorious child rapist who pimped out underage boys and then blackmailed the closeted johns during the 1960s for the Genovese family in the so-called ‘chicken and bulls’ extortion racket.”3

Slate’s William McGowan tells the story of the extensive chickens-and-bulls network discovered by New York police in 1965:

Impersonating corrupt vice-squad detectives, members of this ring, known in police parlance as bulls, had used young, often underage men known as chickens to successfully blackmail closeted pillars of the establishment, among them a navy admiral, two generals, a U.S. congressman, a prominent surgeon, an Ivy League professor, a prep school headmaster, and several well-known actors, singers, and television personalities. The ring had operated for almost a decade, had victimized thousands, and had taken in at least $2 million. […]

As the NYPD and FBI pursued their investigations in 1965 and 1966, they found that the ring had conducted operations in a dozen or more cities around the country. It was fluid in nature, with a changing cast of about two dozen “bulls” and “chickens.”

Three main ringleaders organized, financed, and equipped its various operations. In Chicago, there was John Pyne, already in his early 50s, who had joined the Chicago Police department in 1938. Pyne had been a member of the Chicago department’s Confidential Squad, learning the tricks of the blackmail trade from the very same shakedown artists he had put in jail. Using a nationwide network of police officers, mostly “clerical men,” in his pay, Pyne had dozens of different police badges, which were referred to as buttons. Pyne also had arrest forms, warrants, and extradition forms “from virtually every jurisdiction in the country,” as Assistant U.S. Attorney Thomas Baer would later say at Pyne’s arraignment.

Moving between New York, Chicago, and Baltimore was Sherman Chadwick Kaminsky, a 38-year-old “salesman” who also went under the alias of Paul Vargo. Kaminsky’s past was hazy. […] Kaminsky often partnered up with John Fellabaum, described in press reports as a “weightlifter and bodybuilder” in his late 20s from Monroeville, Pa. Fellabaum’s beefcake physique apparently made him an attractive lure.

Another principal figure was the arrested Hilton Hotel house detective, 39-year-old Ed Murphy. A burly tough from Manhattan’s lower west side, Murphy was expelled from a Catholic grammar school as a young boy and was put in reform school after whacking a policeman over the head with a milk bottle for breaking his shoebox. He served in the Army in France during World War II and in the late-’40s became a doorman at a couple of gay bars on Eighth Avenue near the Port Authority Bus Terminal. After a spree of robbing dentists of gold used in fillings, Murphy was sentenced to 10 years in state prison, most of it spent in isolation after violent assaults on fellow inmates and guards.

Released from prison, Murphy went back to working the door at a number of sketchy gay clubs such as the Cork, the Sans Souci, and the Bali. He also took up professional wrestling, grappling against legendary characters such as the Super Swedish Angel and Gorgeous George, and throwing chairs at people who booed him. With his bright shaved head, Murphy took on the wrestling moniker of “Skull.” But to the young male runaways and prostitutes whom Murphy cared for – and sometimes pimped – he was “Mother.” Despite his criminal history and shady involvements, Murphy became the director of security at Manhattan’s Hilton Hotel […]

In almost every case, after making contact, the chicken would accompany the mark up to his room, or suggest another hotel where they could go instead. Once in the room, one of two scenarios would follow.

In some cases, the bulls would wait until the two men had gotten themselves into a compromising position before bursting into the room and identifying themselves as vice squad detectives, capitalizing on the fear, panic, and surprise they induced in the victim as they initiated what they referred to as the play. At the Hilton, where Skull Murphy was head of security, the timing was made easier by the inch or so Murphy had shaved from certain room doors, into which he inserted a small dental mirror taped to the end of a cane, the better to see exactly when to pounce.

The bulls would explain the penalties for violating sodomy laws or corrupting a minor, then demand an outright bribe, or as they did to the Princeton professor, suggest that the victim pay “bail money” as a way of avoiding making his arrest public, or prison. In some cases the bulls might induce a payoff by putting a victim together in a room with another man they pretended to have arrested for the same thing elsewhere in the hotel. That other man might say something like: “Hey, I can’t afford to be arrested. I’m going to offer them money, what about you?” Having the victim induce the payoff, rather than demand the money outright, lowered the criminals’ exposure in court.

Sherman Kaminsky

Sherman Kaminsky

With all the right clothes and the right police jargon, some of the blackmailers appeared “more detective than real detectives,” the FBI’s Paul Brana said. The official paperwork – warrants, affidavits, arrest forms – was convincing too. […]

They played this long game with chutzpah too. On two occasions they marched New Jersey Congressman Peter Frelinghuysen, who sat on the House Foreign Affairs Committee, right out of his Capitol Hill office and onto a private plane for a trip to his New Jersey bank where he paid them $50,000 in total, according to the FBI’s Paul Brana. Admiral William Church [cousin of Senator Frank Church], who, among other duties was in charge of the New York Naval Yards at the time, was escorted from the Pentagon, handing over $5,000, as was an Army general who paid $2,000. The criminals also rushed a prominent surgeon right out of an operating room, forcing his colleague to finish the procedure. They didn’t miss a chance to see a bit of the world either, flying to London to nick a well-known British producer for $3,000. […]

In one case, two phony detectives, armed with pistols and flashing their shields, broke into a hotel room and got the drop on a nuclear scientist from California with a chicken. The bogus cops took the man’s credentials then let him leave for the West Coast. A month later, the cops arrived in California and gained entrance to the government research facility where the scientist worked. As they confronted him for money, they were interrupted by the scientist’s supervisor. The quick-thinking victim introduced the extortionists as two detectives he had befriended on his last trip east, and the two “detectives” were then given a tour of restricted areas of the facility, right at the height of the Cold War.

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1969: The Village Voice advocates the decriminalization of gay bars.

As the blackmailers’ interest in the House Foreign Affairs Committee and government nuclear facilities (and perhaps also McGowan’s use of the word “chutzpah”) might suggest, the chickens-and-bulls operations were clearly something more ambitious than what would typically be associated with mere “mafia” racketeering. McGowan continues:

Sherman Kaminsky agreed to plead guilty on federal charges, but when Admiral William Church committed suicide, New York DA Frank Hogan raised the prospect of prosecuting him on manslaughter charges. Kaminsky tried to strike a deal with federal prosecutors, says Andrew Maloney, but the feds refused. Panicking, Kaminsky jumped bail, becoming a fugitive for 11 years.

Authorities suspected that Kaminsky might have spent some time in Israel, but couldn’t find any productive leads. In January 1978, however, the FBI got a tip and apprehended Kaminsky early in the morning at the Seattle-Tacoma International Airport as he transited flights between Vancouver and Denver. According to the FBI, Kaminsky had lived for much of the intervening 11 years in Denver under the name of Calvin Paley, and had operated a rabbit-raising business as well as a company that distributed hair replacement products.

Because Kaminsky had deliberately fled, the federal statute of limitations on his extortion conviction was voided. In the end, Kaminsky dodged jail, making a deal with federal prosecutors to gather state’s evidence on a fellow detainee who was suspected of being a central figure in the 1976 Orlando Letelier bombing case […] Kaminsky was enrolled in the federal witness protection program in whose custody he has presumably died. […]

Eventually known as the “Mayor of Christopher Street,” Murphy played a central role in organizing the now-famous street festival that takes place during New York’s annual gay pride weekend. Every year, Murphy and a crew much younger men would ride in a convertible Cadillac in the gay pride parade itself. […]

At his standing-room-only Roman Catholic funeral, the priest said that “If Ed Murphy is not with God, then there is no God.”4

“How had Murphy dodged the lethal prison bullet?” asks R. Marc Kantrowitz at Patriot Ledger:

Was it due to the difficulty the feds had in securing witnesses? Or was it due to a far more basic reason? Murphy was a rat, an informant against the Mob and, as such, treated with the softest of kids [sic] gloves. Or was it, as some have opined, that among those he was blackmailing was the head of the FBI, J. Edgar Hoover, who for years refused to even acknowledge that organized crime existed? Whatever the truth, Murphy was never punished for his brash lawlessness.5

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Pre-PC reportage on the 1969 rioting at the Stonewall.

It is interesting to observe, in view of the very highly placed figures targeted by the chickens-and-bulls network, that investigators “suspected that Kaminsky might have spent some time in Israel”. Robert N. Schwartz, an assistant U.S. attorney in New York’s Southern District, told writer Eugene Propper in 1978 that Kaminsky “was a rather colorful criminal with an arrest record stretching back to 1945, who had decorated his cell [in the Metropolitan Correctional Center] with a photograph of himself proudly wearing the uniform of the Israeli Haganah, the elite commando organization that had used terrorist tactics to help win Israel’s battle for existence.”6 Aryan Skynet’s question is: did Kaminsky’s service to the Zionist state come to an end when he left Israel for the United States?

According to Burton Hersh, author of Bobby and J. Edgar, Manhattan D.A. Frank Hogan’s mid-sixties Rackets Squad investigation into the chickens and bulls uncovered a photograph of “Hoover himself ‘posing amiably’ with Kaminsky, while [Hoover’s lover] Clyde Tolson had reportedly ‘fallen victim to the extortion ring.’”7 Anthony Summers, in his study Official and Confidential: The Secret Life of J. Edgar Hoover, cites the assertions of Susan Rosenstiel – fourth wife of Jewish tycoon Lewis Rosenstiel, a business partner of Meyer Lansky, “Chairman of the Board” of organized crime in America – to make the case that Hoover was compromised on the basis of his deviant proclivities:

In 1939, Meyer Lansky used Rosenstiel as a go-between while plotting the surrender to Edgar of the gangster Louis “Lepke” Buchalter. By the forties, Edgar was cheerfully accepting the liquor baron’s hospitality. In 1946, he and Clyde were guests of honor at a barbecue thrown by leading liquor companies, including Rosenstiel’s. […]

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Roy Cohn with an unidentified friend.

By the fifties, Rosenstiel was surrounded by familiar figures from Edgar’s world. […]

Closest of all was Roy Cohn, now a high-profile New York attorney. His services were at the disposal of Lewis Rosenstiel […]

Rosenstiel trusted Cohn “as a son,” and Cohn indulged his eccentricities. The pair was once observed on a yacht, cruising past the West Point Military Academy with a recording of General MacArthur’s farewell speech blaring forth from a loudspeaker. The Rosenstiel clique liked to address one another as if they were members of some secret army. Cohn, like Lansky, called Rosenstiel “Supreme Commander.” The millionaire called Cohn “Field Commander,” another crony “Sergeant-at-Arms” and so on.

Rosenstiel cultivated Edgar assiduously. […]

Susan Rosenstiel’s final and most sensational revelations suggest her husband and Roy Cohn involved Edgar in sex orgies – thus laying him more open than ever to pressure from organized crime.

 

She describes orgies involving her husband, Cohn, Hoover, and teenage boys that took place in New York’s Plaza Hotel, in “a beautiful suite, one of their biggest, all done in light blue.”8 “One corroboratory sidelight turned up when New York attorney John Klotz began to investigate Roy Cohn on behalf of a client,” Hersh reveals:

Declassified New York government files and spadework by a private detective substantiated the allegation that there was indeed a “blue suite” at the Plaza, Suite 233. “Roy Cohn was providing protection,” Klotz discovered. “There were a bunch of pedophiles involved. That’s where Cohn got his power from – blackmail.”9

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Meyer Lansky

Roy Cohn, as Michael Collins Piper points out in Final Judgment, was also one of the investors in the shadowy Permindex corporation linked to the Mossad and the JFK assassination10. Hoover’s other interesting associations included Meyer Lansky and the Anti-Defamation League of B’nai B’rith. According to Lansky associate and covert FBI operative Michael Milan, Lansky and Hoover “sometimes broke bread together”, while “Mr. L. was never rousted, was rarely served with federal subpoenas, and was generally left alone to conduct his business.”11 The mobster, as Jerry Klinger writes for The Jewish Magazine, “was a life-long Zionist and ardent supporter of Jewish charities.” In violation of an American arms embargo against the occupiers in Palestine, Lansky worked with Haganah terrorist Yehuda Arazi to ensure “that weapons destined for the Arabs mysteriously got lost, fell overboard or were mistakenly loaded onto [a] ship bound for Israel.”12 Hoover, moreover, was a notable beneficiary of ADL largesse, Piper reveals:

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Mike Piper

It was the pro-Israel Anti-Defamation League (ADL) of B’nai B’rith that was largely responsible for the establishment of the J. Edgar Hoover Foundation in 1947. (Top Lansky associates have long been generous financial backers of the ADL.) The Hoover Foundation’s first president was Rabbi Paul Richman, Washington director of the ADL.

Hoover’s longtime associate, Louis B. Nichols, the FBI’s Assistant Director in charge of the Records and Communications Division of the Bureau, was the FBI’s key contact with the ADL when the ADL helped orchestrate mass sedition trials against key critics of President Franklin D. Roosevelt’s foreign policy.

Nichols went on to serve as president of the J. Edgar Hoover Foundation, but only after he left the FBI. Upon retirement from the Bureau he signed on as Executive Vice President of Schenley Industries, a major liquor firm run by ex-bootlegger and Lansky associate Lewis R. Rosenstiel.13

Is any of this adding up – or is Aryan Skynet just paranoid?

Rainer Chlodwig von K.

[Note: for more on the Zionist connections to the JFK assassination, see the post “Do You Know ‘Jack’?” In addition, the following episode of The Opperman Report features the reminiscences of NYPD Detective James Rothstein, who investigated, among other things, the Son of Sam web and its connection to New York pedophile rings.]

Endnotes

  1. Cascio, Justin. “Gay Liberation and the Mafia”. Mafia Genealogy (April 18, 2016): https://mafiagenealogy.wordpress.com/2016/04/18/gay-liberation-and-the-mafia/
  2. Crawford, Phillip, Jr. “Pedophile Group NAMBLA Once Ran Gay Pride Parade”. Friends of Ours (April 15, 2017): http://bitterqueen.typepad.com/friends_of_ours/2017/04/pedophile-group-nambla-once-ran-gay-pride-parade.html
  3. Crawford, Phillip, Jr. “Report: FBI Used Child Predator to Infiltrate Alleged Waste Carting Scheme”. Friends of Ours (January 15, 2014): http://bitterqueen.typepad.com/friends_of_ours/2014/01/report-fbi-used-child-predator-to-infiltrate-alleged-waste-carting-scheme.html
  4. McGowan, William. “The Chickens and the Bulls”. Slate (July 11, 2012): http://www.slate.com/articles/life/history/2012/07/the_chickens_and_the_bulls_the_rise_and_incredible_fall_of_a_vicious_extortion_ring_that_preyed_on_prominent_gay_men_in_the_1960s_.html
  5. Kantrowitz, R. Marc. “Edward ‘The Skull’ Murphy”. Patriot Ledger (June 24, 2012): http://www.patriotledger.com/x655470989/LAW-N-HISTORY-Edward-The-Skull-Murphy
  6. Branch, Taylor; and Eugene M. Propper. Labyrinth. New York, NY: The Viking Press, 1982, p. 582.
  7. Hersh, Burton. Bobby and J. Edgar. New York, NY: Basic Books, 2008, p. 88.
  8. Summers, Anthony. Official and Confidential: The Secret Life of J. Edgar Hoover. New York, NY: G.P. Putnam’s Sons, 1993, pp. 250-255.
  9. Hersh, Burton. Bobby and J. Edgar. New York, NY: Basic Books, 2008, p. 88.
  10. Piper, Michael Collins. Final Judgment: The Missing Link in the JFK Assassination Conspiracy. Washington, DC: The Center for Historical Review, 2000, p. 612.
  11. Ibid., p. 81.
  12. Klinger, Jerry. “In Search of Meyer”. The Jewish Magazine (February 2009): http://www.jewishmag.com/130mag/meyer_lansky/meyer_lansky.htm
  13. Piper, Michael Collins. Final Judgment: The Missing Link in the JFK Assassination Conspiracy. Washington, DC: The Center for Historical Review, 2000, pp. 81-82.
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78 comments on “The Chickens, the Bulls, “The Skull”, and the Jews: Did Israel Own J. Edgar Hoover?

  1. icareviews
    June 9, 2017

    Reblogged this on icareviews.

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  2. Pingback: The Chickens, the Bulls, “The Skull”, and the Jews: Did Israel Own J. Edgar Hoover? | Hipster Racist

  3. Sam J.
    June 10, 2017

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  4. Hipster Racist
    June 10, 2017

    Apparently the question of Hoover’s sexuality is not as cut and dried as people think. Among a certain crowd, especially Jews, gangsters, and people who hated Hoover, it’s conventional wisdom that he was some sort of pervert being blackmailed by the mafia. But according to many people who knew him, he had two serious relationships with women and almost married one of them, but was just one of those men “married to his job.”

    Truman Capote, who helped spread salacious rumors about Hoover, once remarked that he was more interested in making Hoover angry than determining whether the rumors were true

    [H]istorian David K. Johnson attacked the speculations about Hoover’s homosexuality as relying on “the kind of tactics Hoover and the security program he oversaw perfected—guilt by association, rumor, and unverified gossip.” He views Rosenstiel as a liar who was paid for her story, whose “description of Hoover in drag engaging in sex with young blond boys in leather while desecrating the Bible is clearly a homophobic fantasy.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Edgar_Hoover#Sexuality

    But his collaboration with organized crime seems far more credibly established, whether or not it was due to blackmail. Whether his collaboration was more than just looking the other way at who was running the ponies he liked to bet on is still an open question.

    Then again it’s certainly possible that the mafia really did have pictures of him dressed like a cheerleader.

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    • icareviews
      June 10, 2017

      He lived with a man, and as his relations with the ADL demonstrate, he wasn’t uniformly despised by Jews. I find the rumors too numerous and convincing to ignore. Summers, in his book, doesn’t rely on only one source.

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    • Sam J.
      June 10, 2017

      I find the rumors credible not by what he did do but by what he didn’t do. He did nothing about the Jewish mob which as noted was the mafia. He could have busted untold numbers if he was of a mind to. He also did nothing about the Kennedy assassination.

      What does this say about our present leadership that they do nothing about the Jew 9-11 attack?

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      • Hipster Racist
        June 10, 2017

        @Sam J

        The story goes that George H. W. Bush visited J. Edgar Hoover the day of the JFK hit – Hoover wrote a memo about their meeting presumably so it would be on the record. When it was finally declassified in the 1980s, Bush said it was “a different George Bush of the CIA” that had met with Hoover the day of the JFK hit. The newspaper did a search and found there was only one other George Bush of the CIA, a low level file clerk working on the night shift.

        This showed that George H. W. Bush was working for the CIA all the way back in 63, during the Bay of Pigs, and that he was apparently powerful enough even back then to be meeting with the director of the FBI, presumably America’s top law enforcement official, the day of something as huge as the JFK hit.

        The thinking goes that Bush asked Hoover, “you going to play ball or are you going to make trouble?” Apparently Hoover chose to play ball.

        As for today and 9/11, just look at the FBI director Louis Freeh. The FBI director during the first WTC attack, Sessions, was quickly removed, his deputy replaced him but was removed after a few months, the Freeh was put in and lasted long enough to cover up 9/11.

        Lindauer says her CIA guy, the notorious Russian girl trafficker Richard Fuisz, asked her, “what’s going to happen if there is no FBI director when 9/11 goes down?” and suggested that Freeh would cover it up because that is what he was for.

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      • bob saffron
        June 10, 2017

        On G.H.W. Bush, Hoover and the JFK hit (03:15):

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      • Sam J.
        June 11, 2017

        I think George H. W. Bush was always working for larger fish than him. Rothschild??

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  5. Hipster Racist
    June 10, 2017

    On two occasions they marched New Jersey Congressman Peter Frelinghuysen, who sat on the House Foreign Affairs Committee, right out of his Capitol Hill office and onto a private plane for a trip to his New Jersey bank where he paid them $50,000 in total

    This is just amazing, that such high level people could be entrapped by crooked cops with fake badges and plagiarized court forms.

    The Jewish – and specifically Zionist – nature of organized crime in post WWII America is one of those stories that never gets told. One of the TOO writers likes to point out how many Hollywood movies turn Wall Street crooks into uber-WASPs and how the straight-laced lawyers that take them down are always played by Jews – essentially a complete reversal of reality.

    Hollywood mafia movies always show the Italians as the leaders and the Jews merely hangers-on doing penny-ante stuff like running numbers or shaking down other Jews, in what looks to be another direct reversal of the reality.

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    • bob saffron
      June 10, 2017

      @ HR:
      You should watch Eureka (1981). It’s a classic on the Jew/gentile conflict: materialism/venality versus spirituality/Faustian spirit. Unmentioned is that the gangster is a Jew, his lackey Italian, and not the converse as convention dictates.
      http://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/eureka-1981

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      • Onceler
        June 11, 2017

        Chill out. I’m not blonde 😉

        I merely pointed out that the sandnigger alliance is considered unbreakable in the exact location you’re talking about, that I live in. And, that the rumor about Frelinghuysen means nothing to those of us familiar with the parties instigating it.

        It’s just a fact, not some assault against anyone.

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      • Onceler
        June 11, 2017

        That comment was meant to reply to icareviews below.

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      • bob saffron
        June 11, 2017

        Oh, I forgot to mention that the Jewish gangster developer in Eurekais played, very convincingly, by Joe Pesci.

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    • Onceler
      June 11, 2017

      Okay, I’ll bite. And no, there is no entendre there.

      You are taking the word of sandniggers, of NYC and places like Essex County, NJ (suburban home of NYC sandniggers) seriously.

      We don’t. We meaning the aryans of NJ.

      I read this about Frelinghuysen, whose current scion is a representative in neighboring, to the west, Morris County, on Wikipedia and thought to myself, ‘whatever.’

      There is PLENTY of motive for the jews and italians to make this kind of thing up about the WASP’s in power. They experienced such WASP’s and WASP’s in general as the main obstacle to their taking over. And jews and italians don’t compete through talent and industry, regardless of how much some want to believe they do.

      While it could be true, it could literally just as easily have been 100% fabricated by what would truly more likely have been the italians in this case. That’s not to say the jews aren’t equal partners, or at the end of the day the dominant ones, just that that exact type of gossip character assassination fabrication is more typical of the guineas than the hebes.

      There’s much more going on here in general than this, but I truly don’t want to deal with needless drama so I’m just going to leave it at that.

      Don’t propagate lies about my people.

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      • bob saffron
        June 11, 2017

        Racial vilification and/or Holocaust Denial will get you a prison sentence in Italy. I don’t think there can be any doubt (((who)))’s really in charge.

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      • icareviews
        June 11, 2017

        Okay, Blondie. You figured it out, so I guess there’s no reason for us to pretend any longer. Aryan Skynet is, always has been, and always will be a crypto-guido sandnigger website. We’re all Italian Jews who hate WASPs and still cherish a vendetta because of Sacco and Vanzetti. I’ve even been told by more than one person that I resemble Joe Pesci in sidelocks. [This comment will self-destruct in thirty minutes, so get a screencap of it now.]

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      • Hipster Racist
        June 11, 2017

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      • Hipster Racist
        June 11, 2017

        @Onceler

        I’m not sure what your point is. Are you suggesting that Frelinghuysen wasn’t a homosexual that was extorted by the Jewish mafia? Or are you responding to my doubt that the rumors about Hoover’s sexuality were true?

        Even if Hoover was a transgendered LGBT, it seems simplistic to say he was being “blackmailed by the mafia” if anything, he himself was the center of what amounted to a massive blackmail ring, he may have been partners more than victim.

        He supposedly had all sorts of evidence of JFK’s womanizing and used that as protection for himself against the Kennedy brothers, who apparently despised him.

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      • icareviews
        June 11, 2017

        Here’s video of Frelinghuysen being interviewed on TV back in the fifties. I’ll let you guys judge for yourselves whether or not you think he comes across as a little squishy.

        https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Longines_Chronicles_with_Peter_Frelinghuysen_1954_ARC-96008.ogv

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      • Onceler
        June 11, 2017

        I was referring to you repeating the claims about Frelinghuysen, not about Hoover (although consider the determination with which Hoover hunted down white thieves like John Dillinger while ignoring the Mob…).

        My point was the rumors started by niggers aka italians and jews of NYC/Essex County mean absolutely nothing to the WASP’s they target. We weight the word of these people with zero – ZERO – credibility. We don’t even pay much attention to the shit they talk on each other, which is sort of my second point. This is the way the italians particularly get power. They lie and make shit up about each other, or exaggerate and distort. Since they posit us as their arch enemy (we just think they’re beneath us), their lies about us – WASP’s, or even irish or germans in some cases – are even less credible.

        So the only evidence we would consider about Frelinghuysen is that he attended Princeton and may have existed in circles that did the kinds of things the guineas are claiming. But that’s not specific evidence against Frelinghuysen himself.

        We simply disregard the filth emanating from the giant noses and mouths of these animals as a rule.

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      • Onceler
        June 11, 2017

        Oh and icareviews seems to refuse to accept my point about italians.

        Which is that it’s not even the notion that ‘italian jews’ collude with the I guess whatever jews to attack WASP’s. Italians who aren’t jews do. I don’t know why that’s so hard to process (what I’m saying), whether you believe it or not that’s what I’m saying.

        It’s natural for them to do so. They are an ethnic/’racial’ family, after all. They share the same values, mores and ways to a large extent (or lack thereof on the former).

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      • icareviews
        June 11, 2017

        Don’t forget the French. They’re right across the border and probably sandniggers, too. And what the fuck is up with Belgium. Do you seriously expect me to believe that Gerard Depardieu is white?

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      • Hipster Racist
        June 11, 2017

        @Onceler

        I think everyone is well aware of the North Eastern big city Democratic machines of the early 20th century that were dominated by Papist Italians and Irish, Tammany Hall being the typical example. I think everyone is aware of the faux-resentments carried by some Italians, Irish, and Jews against real Americans.

        Typically we have McZOG explaining to us that it’s the Irish in league with the Jews, you’ve surprised us by claiming it’s really the Italians.

        Of course at the point in history these Italians, Irish, and Jews claiming persecution is nothing but posturing, as all three groups have as much power as anyone in modern America. It’s especially amusing to see Irish people pretending to sympathize with the IRA or something and whine about the Queen of England. Or the comical sight of the Italian mafia boss setting us his own “Italian Anti-Defamantion League” in the 1970s to fight against the stereotypes that Italians were a bunch of mobsters, only to be gunned down during the parade by one of his rival godfathers.

        Your distaste for Italians comes across as a personal thing more than a political issue anyway. You have to understand that icareviews lives in the Midwest, he’s likely never even been to New Jersey and I doubt there are any actual guineas in Kansas City.

        Then again it’s hard to take your vitriol against Italians all that seriously, as a True WASP Lady wouldn’t be using the kind of purple prose and profanity that you do. It seems a bit forced, to be honest.

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      • icareviews
        June 11, 2017

        I totally get and have never denied the notion that Jews and Italians, especially during their early years in the U.S., have been allies against the WASP elite – and I understand, as well, that Italian “mafia” activity has frequently been a front for Jewish organized crime. Anybody who reads Aryan Skynet knows that I know this. But it’s just petty and stupid to pick on Irish and Italians as not being truly white. Peoples in all of the European countries are in the same boat now, and dredging up past grievances is counterproductive in our present situation.

        @HipsterRacist Kansas City actually has a substantial mob heritage (KC is even name-dropped in The Godfather) – the Civellas were the family I remember hearing about as a kid – although I’ve never lived in areas where mob activity was in evidence. My old supervisor used to tell me sometimes, though, that she was around mafioso types in a different section of town where she grew up, and that her mother was once a witness to one of them leaving a crime scene. She said they let her pick a ring from a tray full of jewelry with the understanding that she would keep quiet about it. My old boss went to school with a bunch of Italians back in the seventies and was surrounded by them, but I’ve hardly known any in the entirety of my life with the exception of the proprietor of a pizzeria we used to visit when I was a kid. My earliest memories are of living in an area that had already turned into a black ghetto.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kansas_City_crime_family

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      • icareviews
        June 11, 2017

        I was briefly in New Jersey circa 1997. I got dragged on a family trip to New York (I hated having to stand in the boring line to get to the top of the World Trade Center with all of the other tourists) and we stayed in a motel in East Rutherford. Other than that, though, all I remember of the “Garden State” is passing through some slum in Paterson.

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      • Sam J.
        June 11, 2017

        “…Aryan Skynet is, always has been, and always will be a crypto-guido sandnigger website…”

        I KNEW IT. I just knew it. Fortunately for me I’ve been wearing neoprene gloves every time I go to this site so I’m protected.

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      • Onceler
        June 11, 2017

        I’m neither a WASP nor a lady, ultimately. How many Generation X’ers are ‘ladies’ at the end of the day? How many native New Jerseyans are..

        What I am is a woman who bears the ‘quintessential’ face of the WASP female, and the last name of what is perceived to be WASP by the blacks, jews, et al. But I guess one could say my background is sort of ‘ethnic’ in that more of me is irish catholic, some german catholic.

        But none of you come across as gentlemen, either. Well, maybe Bob Saffron maintains a dignified demeanor, more or less.

        I can 100% assure you the WASP (and aryan) men of my people (region) wouldn’t begrudge me my utter contempt for these people, HR.

        Because it’s deserved, and because the sheer depravity of these animals – and what they do to aryan females – outrages them.

        A midwestern friend of mine told me a story of I think the 80’s when he worked for the mafia doing tech work or something. He attended a party at one of the nigger clubs (yes, italians) where all the waitresses were not only northwestern european but totally naked, from head to toe. Even this dingbat (he is autistic) perceived that the bottom nakedness was pure power. The party was some meeting with most of the innocent aryan midwestern politicians in attendance.

        Such a scene would never even be conceived of in the sick demented minds of the sandslugs known as italians.

        Why? Because there’s a time when even a noble aryan man isn’t a gentleman.

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      • icareviews
        June 11, 2017

        On the score of “innocent aryan midwestern politicians”, get a load of this dude:

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      • Onceler
        June 11, 2017

        *sandslugs known as NJ/NYC italians…*

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      • Hipster Racist
        June 11, 2017

        @Onceler

        I’m still rather confused about what your ultimate point is, although I do notice your anecdote about the party with the nude waitresses and how you said that was about “pure power.”

        I just think you may be misunderstanding the nature of power, especially when it comes to sex and men and women. It seems like to you, the women being naked is stripping them of their power.

        For many women – even and maybe especially North Western European women – nakedness *is* a sign of their power. You think the women being waitresses is a sign of low status, while many of them know perfectly well that walking around “serving” men while nude is an expression *of* their power.

        You know in the high class Eyes Wide Shut parties, the men are wearing suits and the women are nude – if you think the men are “forcing” the women to be nude while the men are retaining their power because they are clothed – I might assume you’re a spinster that has never actually had sex with a man. These White women wouldn’t DREAM of allowing a man to cover up their body.

        White women tend to love and revel in the power that they bodies and their sexuality has over men.

        Just for the record – you brought it up, I’m simply pointing out how “feministy” types seem to be “inverted” when it comes to actually understanding how power works in a sexual context.

        One can imagine all those Aryan waitresses sniggering in the back room at the pathetic spectacle of those swarthy guineas drooling over them.

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      • icareviews
        June 11, 2017

        I didn’t see much power in the doped, unconscious woman Cruise’s doctor has to treat at Sydney Pollack’s party.

        Nudity actually does correlate with helplessness, which is another reason (along with the obvious one, the sex appeal of naked boobs) why shower attack scenes are so effective and so frequently utilized in horror films. It puts a person in the same sartorial position as a newborn baby.

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      • Hipster Racist
        June 11, 2017

        That’s the movie version, I was talking about real life. No one will be able to convince me that most women do not engage in major power trips when they discover the effect their sexuality has over men.

        I doubt the real life Eyes Wide Shut parties hire heroin addicts. Coke, sure, because that’s compatible with a party. But there’s nothing sexy about someone nodding off in the corner.

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      • icareviews
        June 11, 2017

        With nudity, I would qualify that the context matters. My comment about nude helplessness obviously doesn’t apply to a statue of Aphrodite. With men also, I think it’s different. There are actually some memorable action scenes in movies that display male actors in the nude so as the better to convey the raw brutality of their power – like Schwarzenegger’s first appearance in The Terminator or his nude bath fight in Red Heat. There’s also Viggo Mortensen’s nude fight in Eastern Promises and Michael Caine’s naked shotgun moment in Get Carter, where he walks out of his hotel onto the street totally unashamed and lets loose a blast.

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      • Hipster Racist
        June 11, 2017

        “Nudity actually does correlate with helplessness”

        Yes, “helplessness” is a weakness – for a man. For a woman? “Vulnerability” is one of women’s sexist traits.

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      • Onceler
        June 11, 2017

        Hipster you have some really serious issues with women. I say that with utter sincerity and with compassion, which I’m not sure is deserved or not.

        But it’s there. I’m very tired right now, utterly demoralized from a lot of things going on in my personal life as well as in the public at large.

        I’m sorry for whatever women did to you, as some woman in your formative years had to have shirked even basic responsibility to have left you so…whatever. Scarred? Bitter? Paranoid?

        I don’t know. I just know it’s fucked up, and I truly am sorry.

        You missed most of my point, but I’m too tired and weary to care right now, and you like imposing your own myopic interpretation of things on those around you anyway.

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      • Hipster Racist
        June 11, 2017

        @Onceler

        What makes you think I have “serious issues with women?” You’re the one that is constantly posting these erotically charged scenarios of Aryan women stripped naked with often Italian men poking at their nether parts – you just posted your second little narrative in the last few days. First it was Italian police officers poking and prodding at a nude Amanda Knox, now it’s a mafia party with nude Aryan waitresses being leered at by Midwestern politicians, and you even specifically pointed out how the “bottom nakedness” was “pure power.”

        Surely you cannot be so utterly self-unaware to not realize what you are doing and how it comes across? I mean these stories of yours are straight out of “My Secret Garden” – feminist erotica from the 1970s.

        If we’re going to play amateur psychologist, I’m going to assume that some olive skinned Italian boy took your virginity then coldly dumped you and you’ve been nursing that wound ever since.

        If you want to make a point about New Jersey Italians and Jews and their political coalition against the Germans of New Jersey, feel free – just this time try to not include porn scenarios straight of of the Story of O.

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      • icareviews
        June 11, 2017

        I did a little detective work and tracked down some footage of Onceler.

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      • Onceler
        June 11, 2017

        See, you’re getting mad at me or something. Everything is some power struggle between you and women, at least as some fictional internet character.

        That you find erotica in either of my recent reports about italian male violence towards aryan women is exactly what I see as your problem, and it’s only compounding my sadness that is mostly reaction to stuff going on in real life.

        Again, sorry for whatever aryan women did to you. I give psychology as much credence as I do guinea ‘411’ so it’s not patronization I’m offering.

        Some women really are human beings, Hipster.

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      • Hipster Racist
        June 11, 2017

        Oh come now, Oneler, no one is angry or mad at you. Stop the projections, it’s hardly convincing, it’s you that is constantly bringing up these “power” scenarios, I’m just putting them in context since the audience can barely understand what you are talking about here.

        Some women really are human beings, Hipster.

        All women are human beings, Onceler, by definition of course. It’s your very bizarre hangups with sexual power that is confusing you. Women do not lose their “human” status because of their sexuality. What is it about feminism and these Victorian notions of women anyway? There’s nothing wrong with being a prude either – plenty of respectable WASPs are prudes. It’s just when you see sexual power exchange everywhere, even in relatively innocent exchanges between men and women, it really might be, well, you.

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      • Sam J.
        June 22, 2017

        “…For many women – even and maybe especially North Western European women – nakedness *is* a sign of their power…”

        A confirmation of this is their actions. Words are one thing actions are another. When Leftist Women want to protest or “show their in control” they show their cunts. They march around naked. Slut walks. Art exhibits of the Women artist painting with their cunts, using their bodies as brushes. If this is what they do to show us power what might we think IS their power.

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  6. eyeslevel
    June 11, 2017

    “…the FBI wanted to look invincible, and Organized Crime was LOT bigger than the FBI was. So the FBI bought out white trash relatives of Klansmen and made huge progress in crushing a much smaller and more divided foe.

    The media don’t want to criticize THAT.

    But that was, for Hoover, a diversion. He knew what the media wanted, and the media didn’t care whether Organized Crime died or prospered. It wanted Southern resistance crushed.

    Hoover was a master politician. Like Churchill, he did not care what he did to the world so long as he kept power. And unlike Churchill he DID keep power, whereas the world spit Churchill out.

    The simple fact is that any attempt to deal with organized crime in Hoover’s time was doomed. So J. Edgar declared it a myth until that disastrous meeting in the mountains made it too obvious to declare mythological any more. But that was in the 50s, I believe.

    Hoover was right. He couldn’t deal with Organized Crime. It was not until the passage of the RICO Acts that a crime boss could be charged EFFECTIVELY with crimes committed on his orders. The Warren Court worked desperately hard to defend all criminals, especially the big ones, and you couldn’t get anybody for drugs unless you found drugs ON them, and then it wasn’t easy.

    No big man in the Mafia ever had drugs within a football field of him. So it was obvious that all the law enforcement agencies got nothing but small fry, and it didn’t look good…” ~Bob Whitaker

    http://www.whitakeronline.org/blog/2010/03/25/j-edgar-hoover/

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  7. indravaruna
    June 11, 2017

    Lucky Luciano remarked that the Italians learned how to dress and be influential in politics with the Jews, Meyer Lansky probably was the most powerful mobster of the period and in the end he runned away to Israel unsurprisingly.

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  8. icareviews
    June 11, 2017

    Just as a side note, I want to clear something up about this article. I’d originally intended to include some extra detail about Lansky’s mafia connections, but decided that the post was already too long and published as is. Some idiot told me the title was “clickbait” because the information is mostly about mafia activity rather than Israel. The fallacy this person falls into is in failing to recognize the Jewish background to much of the organized racketeering in America. I mention the Genovese and Gambino families, for instance; but it would be a mistake to assume that these were somehow exclusive of Lansky’s activities and totally unrelated to Zionist intrigues. Different historians have different takes on Lansky’s role. Some, like Mr. Crawford cited in the article, characterize Lansky as “dutifully” subordinate to Genovese; but others like Piper identify him as the “chairman of the board” of the national crime syndicate he was instrumental in organizing. Even his New York Times obituary (and the Gray Lady was not an anti-Semitic gossip rag the last I checked) calls Lansky “the reputed financial genius of the underworld”. The website Gangland Wire says that Genovese, in seeking a national leadership role, “received approval from Meyer Lansky” and that “Genovese could not kill Anastasia without Lansky’s support.”

    https://ganglandwire.com/murder-incorporated-part-3/

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    • bob saffron
      June 12, 2017

      Of course, the “Italians” didn’t have anywhere near the high-level political protection of the Jewish networks. If it comes down to it, “Italian organized crime” is a chimera. Crime in Italy is dominated by regional networks, at times competing, at times collaborating with each other. Mafia is Sicilian, Camorra, Neapolitan, and ‘Ndrangheta, Calabrian. And within these regional groupings, the various family groups vie for control of particular markets or geographic areas. See John Dickie’s Mafia Republic: Italy’s Criminal Curse.

      If I recall Collins Piper correctly, Joe Kennedy had to beg Lansky to intervene after some deal went awry and a contract was put out for his life. I can’t remember whom he’d stiffed.

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  9. guest
    June 13, 2017

    Hipster: Here is the rest of Bobs twits on pastebin, exactly everything that was posted since your “Stinging The New Year” skynet post until his passing the other day, i hope the original entry can be amended or updated, so there would be a 100% complete archive, he posted 200 additional twits in 2017, he didn’t slow down at all, not bad.

    His very final one was: “My whole concept of warfare, including the political fronts, says: “Do what the enemy does NOT want you to do.””

    Nobody has taken this to heart like a certain hipster.

    Kudos!

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  10. Onceler
    June 14, 2017

    I just realized something.

    icareviews made a reference above to italians allying with jews ‘in the early years’ of their arrival (or something) against the ‘WASP elite.’

    The sandniggers attacked ALL WASP’s. Pointing this out is not an endorsement of some supposed right they had to attack ANY WASP’s.

    There is NO ‘early years’ of guinea hebe alliance against – ALL WASP’s, and by extension, ALL northwestern europeans.

    If icareviews wants to respond to the voices in his own head, fine. But he is not replying to what I have said.

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    • Hipster Racist
      June 14, 2017

      @Onceler

      “If icareviews wants to respond to the voices in his own head, fine. But he is not replying to what I have said.”

      You even suck at insulting people, you sound like a Jew. I’m not even convinced you are able to understand his point at all.

      Say, did you ever start that blog, or have you given up doing anything productive for white women and have decided simply to be bitchy on other peopele’s blogs?

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      • Onceler
        June 14, 2017

        What’s wrong with me pointing out the difference between what I said and what icareveiws implies that I said?

        You sort of admit that white women aren’t being advocated for by white men.

        But isn’t that basically what the pro-white sphere is…who’s better at insulting who, white men versus white women, etc.

        Advantage White Men.

        Oops, maybe not…

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      • Hipster Racist
        June 15, 2017

        @Onceler

        Apparently you’ve been away for a while. There’s a whole new crop of White women in the pro-white sphere and the “alt right.” Lana Lokteff, the entire group around Red Ice, Lauren Summer, Ayala, Pettibone, etc. They do productive work, have blogs and videos, they mentor the younger women, and are otherwise useful to the pro-white cause generally.

        Five years ago there were only whiny and obnoxious white feminists constantly bitching about white men but now the useful women have stepped up to the plate. They don’t need white men to advocate for them, because they advocate for themselves and other white women. Although these white women do have plenty of men cheering them on.

        Looks like your type has been made redundant. Wouldn’t you fit in better with Sinead’s McCarthey’s harpy fest trolling the boys at (((Daily Stormer)))? The pro-white movement has wisely set up a containment field for difficult personalities, male and female, and clearly they are more your crowd than Aryan Skynet is.

        Have fun:

        http://heathenwomen.com

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    • icareviews
      June 14, 2017

      In my defense, everything I post is dictated to me by H.P. Blavatsky, so maybe you should consider directing your grievances to her. My posting of the revelations in no way constitutes an endorsement.

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  11. bob saffron
    June 14, 2017

    The WASP elite viewed Polish and Italian Catholic enclaves as something to be broken up. I don’t doubt that pleased Jews, too.

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    • Hipster Racist
      June 15, 2017

      @bob saffron

      I really like Jones although he’s so comically biased you have to take that into account.

      The “WASP elite” – the people running the USA – wanted Polish and Italian Catholics to not be isolated and to join the larger White community. Jones finds this to be an anti-catholic conspiracy and is upset that these Poles and Irish became “white guys.”

      Remember, Jones is a race denier. He believes an African that grew up speaking German is “German,” that race doesn’t matter, only religion and culture.

      I’m a fan of his research but I draw different conclusions than he does.

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      • Gaben
        June 15, 2017

        ‘I’m a fan of his research but I draw different conclusions than he does.’

        Exactly. His books are a good gateway to truth, as they are somewhat sloppy written. Finding out the truth, one has to dig deep himself. I don’t agree with everything in this review, but it’s a fair criticism of Jones. Here it is:

        https://www.goodreads.com/review/show/1906990944

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      • Hipster Racist
        June 15, 2017

        @Gaben

        Interesting review, but it’s clearly mired in hostility to Jones because the author is apparently a Vorbis partisan. So it’s intra-Catholic infighting. But some criticism of Jones is accurate, at the end of the day Jones is more polemicist than analyst; his goal is to deconstruct anything non-Catholic and he withdraws the principle of charity for non-Catholic ideas while being as generous as possible to Catholicism. So, the English Reformation had no religious significance it was just “theft,” Martin Luther was just a drunk, the Hussites were just womanizers, Knox just an uncharitable greedy capitalist – but the Catholic priests that molested children were just corrupted by Reich and the Jews, the entire Enlightenment merely a conspiracy against God and the Catholic Church, America merely a slave colony that corrupted innocent Polish and Irish workers, all good things come from Rome and all bad things come from any deviation from Rome – even anything good about White people has nothing to do with them, their race, or their genetics – it’s all thanks to Benedictine monks who “sivilized” the pig hunters in the German forests. Jones, too, is the type of partisan that punches close before he punches far – hence, Protestants and “liberals” are the primary enemies, the Jews second, the Muslims are practically allies that just lack Greek philosophy.

        Still I’ll admit I’ve learned a lot from Jones, I’m actually a fan of his “pattern spotting” – you just have to give him “artistic license” and not take him too literally, he’s more art historian than analytic philosopher.

        I also suspect that Jones, typical of highly intelligent people who grew up religious, is embarrassed of the cult aspects of his own religion, which is why he’s always talking about “Logos” instead of “Jesus.” Telling stories about a Palestinian carpenter doesn’t really have the philosophical heft of an abstract concept like “Logos” – so unlike say, C. S. Lewis, Jones does nothing more than occasionally pay lip service to supernaturalism like “the real presence,” the Virgin birth, or even the Nicean Creed. Protestants took all those things seriously, which led rise to the modernist vs. fundamentalist conflicts in America and Britain during the early 20th Century. Catholics like Jones just punted and pretended to still believe in physical miracles but otherwise studiously avoided the topic.

        http://imgur.com/gallery/UsfyDu6

        http://www.patheos.com/blogs/rolltodisbelieve/2014/04/21/hes-not-a-zombie-or-a-lich/

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      • bob saffron
        June 15, 2017

        Fair enough. I admit I’ve not read any of his works and only listened to the odd podcast. (I certainly think he’s wrong on the usury question and economic theory in general). It is hard to imagine today, but the animosity between Catholics and Protestants pre-WWII was quite something.

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      • bob saffron
        June 16, 2017

        “There are nuggets hidden in these 600 pages which are useful in combating the modern regime of sexual anarchy, but I wanted a cannon [sic?].”☺

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      • bob saffron
        June 17, 2017

        @ HR:
        Have you seen some of this YouTube Kids material? Do you think there is any agenda at play other than money-making?

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      • Hipster Racist
        June 17, 2017

        @bob saffron

        No, I have never seen any of that and watching 30 seconds of one them didn’t make me want to watch any more.

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  12. bob saffron
    June 17, 2017

    There’s something very disquieting about this material. (Hearsay only, but I’d avoid the Bad-Baby-Colors videos with Cyrillic script. One doesn’t know exactly what might appear on screen and be logged on the server).

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    • icareviews
      June 17, 2017

      Alright, that’s enough of that. I couldn’t make it all the way through.

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      • bob saffron
        June 17, 2017

        How quickly do “racist” or “homophobic” videos get taken down? There must be some reason for this sort of benign tolerance on the part of YouTube and the Copyright holders.

        I had no idea of their existence and, even worse, diffusion. Demoniacal isn’t too strong a description.

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  13. bob saffron
    June 17, 2017

    The Predator takes a bath, 72 million hits!

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  14. james
    June 17, 2017

    Interesting.

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  15. SharpShooter
    June 17, 2017

    https://sputniknews.com/world/201706171054715887-putin-rejects-911-intelligence/

    I wonder why they are talking about it now? Putin is seen as a God by some people in the alt-media circles, is this possibly aimed at making people like us drop our skepticism? Very interesting.

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    • icareviews
      June 17, 2017

      This isn’t new. Putin was already on the record insulting 9/11 truthers. Russia totally played along with the War on Terror narrative – don’t forget that Putin’s government had its own reasons for playing along, with their own troubles with the Chechens, for example – and Putin really only stepped onto the scene as a counterbalance when the U.S. interventionism started creeping into his sphere of influence. I know a lot of alt-media people think Putin can do no wrong – and I used to be one of them – but some think he used that apartment building bombing at the beginning of his reign as Russia’s own 9/11 and that it was a false flag. I haven’t studied it and don’t pretend to know; but Putin clearly knows the value of a noble lie.

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      • Hipster Racist
        June 17, 2017

        @icareviews

        The hero-worship of Putin is one of the most obnoxious aspects of the “Alt Right.” I hate to spin conspiracy theories, but I have noticed that Spencer is married to a Russian and even Mind Weapon was married to a Russian, and both of them basically thought Putin could do no wrong.

        The Alt Right defends everything that Trump does except in those specific cases where Trump has defied Putin, as in Syria. Does my theory have predictive power? Let’s watch what happens the next time Trump defies Putin and see how the Alt Right reacts.

        Way back during the campaign I posited a Trump-Putin-Netanyahu axis, apparently I’m not the only one to notice this:

        https://majorityrights.com/weblog/comments/theres_no_there_there_to_russian_investigation_only_where_the_alt_right_doe

        Fash the Nation is back, returning to its vomit with Mike Enoch and sheer Trump advocacy on June 11th. After all this Jewishness and all their purported savvy in that regard, Jazzhands McFeels and Halberstrom do nothing but kiss the kosher-approved ass of Trump; while denying any significance to Russian-Jewish-Trump connections – “a nothing burger”

        https://majorityrights.com/weblog/comments/theres_no_there_there_to_russian_investigation_only_where_the_alt_right_doe

        Apparently Jared Kushner uses an orthodox Jewish group as his back channel to Putin and we know that Jared Kushner is not just an Israeli but comes from a Mossad family that was involved in 9/11. If anything, the Democrats are going easy on Trump’s actual Russian ties because they don’t want to expose the Jews that connect them.

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      • icareviews
        June 17, 2017

        Russian-Israeli connections can be difficult to read sometimes. They appear to be on the same page at some times and not at others. Putin’s actions in Syria give him anti-Zionist cred with some observers; but he might simply be sorting out a compromise deal through which Russia gets to keep its naval base and the Israelis or whatever other energy interests are involved get to carve off the pieces of Syria that they want. Syria is pretty convoluted. About the Alt-Right and Russia, I’ll say this. I’m in broad agreement with the position, voiced for instance by Spencer, that secret Russian-American collusion would actually be a good thing and very much preferable to the constant jingoism; but it’s just sort of cartoonish to believe that Putin is one of us and that he carries a brief for Europeans. I do find him less objectionable than American neoconservatives, and I enjoy his unapologetic style, his government’s willingness to shut down homo proselytization of children and its support for traditional values, etc.; but he also plays along with American lies in strategic ways. He’s also clearly not pro-white in the sense that we are, as he has no problem celebrating the dubious heroism of the rape-happy communist genocide of the march on Berlin in 1945, nor does Putin seem to have a problem making deals with a country like South Africa, where the majority is literally engaged in an ongoing white genocide. How much trouble would it be, if he really cared anything about whites, to stipulate some sort of technical assistance to South Africa on the condition that they allow whites to live in peace – maybe installing some Russian observers on the ground to enforce it?

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      • Hipster Racist
        June 17, 2017

        he might simply be sorting out a compromise deal through which Russia gets to keep its naval base

        Of course that is Russia’s main strategic concern, Syria is their warm water naval base, their second most important naval based after Crimea.

        willingness to shut down homo proselytization of children

        That was complete Western propaganda. What actually happened was that Putin shut down Western/Soros/NGO media channels that were explicitly anti-Putin’s party. Putin used the fig leaf of “homo proselytization of children” because Russia is a pretty anti-homo culture. The US of course couldn’t tell the truth – Putin had shut down what amounted to CIA propaganda media directed at Putin – so they screamed about “homophobia.”

        It’s essentially the same with the “Femen” stuff. The Western media liked to pretend that Femen were some sort of “feminist women’s rights activists” when in reality they were literal prostitutes hired by Soros to do things purposefully to get arrested, then Soros could cry “misogyny” or whatever.

        I see Putin in the same way I see Assad. If I were Syrian, I’d probably support Assad, if I were Russian, I’d probably support Putin – in the same way I “support” Trump. I’m glad Trump won instead of Clinton, and I’m glad Trump won instead of “Please Clap” and Ted Cruz. But it’s a marriage of convenience as it were. Not just the “lesser of two evils” exactly, just more a temporary confluence of interests, Trump’s enemies are my enemies, for the most part, but that doesn’t make Trump my friend.

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      • icareviews
        June 17, 2017

        “That was complete Western propaganda.”

        What you’re writing is true about Putin mainly smiting NGO influence; but don’t forget that cultural subversion is itself a foreign policy tool precisely because it really can be destructive of national integrity. I don’t suggest that Putin is a real Christian or anything, and his government may simply be throwing a bone to Christian constituents; but they’ve also shut down multiple porn sites that probably have nothing to do with the CIA. YouPorn and Pornhub could be CIA operations, I suppose; but the bigger problem is that of national mental health and the damaging effects of porn addiction. Whatever the motivations, I still see it as a net positive that Putin’s government takes a stance of unabashed opposition to these things. A government agency actually responded publicly to a Russian citizen who complained about one of the online porn crackdowns by suggesting that he try to meet someone in real life. That’s gold.

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      • Hipster Racist
        June 17, 2017

        I read an article about this by a “gay activist” who pointed out that there was basically no gay stuff on the channels that Putin suppressed. He was a leftist that was angry “US imperialism” was using “gay rights” as a tool of, well, US imperialism. He didn’t want the US to go to war with Russia over “gay rights.”

        Both sides here – the “left” that was upset that Putin was “anti-gay” and the “right” that was glad that Putin was “anti-gay” both took the bait. The “gay propaganda” thing was the shiny object to distract people’s attention from the reality – the media in question was anti-Russia United, Putin’s party, and that was the actual reason that Putin banned the channels.

        I’m certainly not criticizing Putin for opposing Western “degeneracy” even if he’s just doing it to cater to his base – good. Nothing wrong with any of that. But watching Western pro-whites get a man-crush on Putin because he “stood up to the fags” I find to be awfully counter-productive and essentially just being reactionary and being led around by the nose by what should be transparently thin propaganda.

        I remember when Bush actually cracked down on some very extreme porn sites early on in his first term, pre-911. The religious right was enraptured because they had been losing on that front for a long time. Of course it was nothing but a nominal victory that was only being used to give Bush some “religious conservative” credibility so the Christians would support the planned neo-con wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.

        Boy did the Christians have egg on their faces when the Abu Ghraib pictures came out – they actually had to defend Bush for his literally homosexual S&M military policies.

        Oh My God – Fred Phelps was right!

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      • bob saffron
        June 17, 2017
  16. bob saffron
    June 17, 2017

    Holocaust denial, Moon landing, non-Russian mass internal migration, false flags as casus belli for military operations, fractional-reserve banking system where the commercial and central banks rule in league with the administration. Remember the Kursk and the payout (debt forgiveness?) from the US that occurred after that incident? Did Russia not play along with the charade?

    Putin is a more subtle and prudent version of the West’s best. To attack the American or Europe franchise is to expose himself and the weaken the model over which he presides.

    I do, however, appreciate his public fondness for Chabad-Lubavitch. This message can’t have been lost on Ivan Ivanovich.

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  17. bob saffron
    June 17, 2017

    Moreover, Russia must have its own Brookhaven Lab. or similar.

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    • icareviews
      June 17, 2017

      RT is a mixed bag. It’s on the list of sites I look at on occasion.

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