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Richard Spencer vs. Matt Forney on Socialized Medicine

Richard Spencer has frustrated some in the Alt-Right by coming out in favor of socialized medicine. “What Trump partisans call ‘Ryancare’ or ‘Obamacare 2.0’ – but which everyone else calls ‘Trumpcare’ – will increase costs on Trump’s core constituency of White working-class voters, as even Breitbart points out,” he writes at AltRight.com. The legislation, Spencer chastises, “is exactly the kind of Conservatism, Inc. idiocy we’ve seen year in, year out, where the most loyal constituents of the American Right are given the shaft, while those who despise Republican voters are rewarded.” Spencer continues:

If there are two things – two root concepts – that define the Alt Right, they are identity and the red pill, that is, the concept of race and belonging and the ethic of seeing through the pretty lies of our time.

Identity means that we are part of a family, and that we have responsibilities to our people. Unlike Paul Ryan and Rich Lowry, who masturbated to Atlas Shrugged in their college dorms and have no loyalty to their race, Donald Trump is a nationalist. He is a man whose miraculous candidacy was based on promising his lower- and middle-class supporters that he would be their champion – that he understands the system and will make it work form them. If Trump actually believes his own words – and if he recognizes the reality that conservatives like Ryan never liked him, never really supported him, and don’t have his back – then why is he adopting their policies? Why not “rig the system” on his people’s behalf?

Taking the red pill on healthcare also means recognizing that the system was hardly a free-market paradise before Obama: prices were always set through Medicare. Moreover, Obamacare itself wasn’t really “socialism” at all: it was the fake socialism of an insurance scheme. (And let’s not forget that Obamacare’s “individual mandate” ultimately originated in the conservative movement of the late ‘80s.) […]

And we can’t ignore the politics of this. If Trumpcare passes, leftists can credibly claim that Trump has betrayed his populist vision. […]

And it is time for the Alt-Right to push for a “public option” – the single-payer system that Obama’s [administration] didn’t have the balls to implement.

Yes, of course, we don’t live in Sweden circa 1960; and a single-payer system would be mired by the contradictions of multiculturalism and open borders—but so is the system we have now. We are past the point of trying to impose a rational policy in what is already an irrational situation.

And in any given environment, we have to consider what policy option or political choice will further the strategic objective of moving toward racial consciousness. Universal healthcare accomplishes this in several ways.

Firstly – and most importantly, politically – we must accept that healthcare is an issue we cannot rationally address until we have a European nation. The best we can do is support the most plausible solution that would serve our constituency. The system we have now is essentially the worst of both the free market and socialist options, as the government tries to manipulate prices in order to preserve a nominally “capitalist” system. By doing this, it destroys the pricing mechanism, which is the one critical advantage capitalism has. The result is a bureaucratic nightmare. Universal healthcare is less confusing and nonsensical (and probably cheaper) than what White people have to deal with now.

Secondly, we underestimate the rise of neo-social democracy at our peril. Even as the “Bolivarian Revolution” in Venezuela descends into chaos, socialism is growing more popular in the United States, and easily the most beloved politician is Bernie Sanders.

Matt Forney, however, counters that many of Trump’s supporters voted for him precisely to overturn Obamacare and that any embrace of a socialism that would disproportionately benefit non-whites would only outrage and betray the voters who put him into office. “The reason why white taxpayers are not enthused about universal healthcare and all these other things is because they know their money is going to be disproportionately going to blacks and they don’t want to be funding people who hate them. They don’t want to be funding people who are antagonistic to them, who are net drains on society.”

Thoughts?

Rainer Chlodwig von K.

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28 comments on “Richard Spencer vs. Matt Forney on Socialized Medicine

  1. icareviews
    April 3, 2017

    Reblogged this on icareviews.

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  2. BMan
    April 3, 2017

    Why use the loaded wording embrace of a socialism or socialized medicine? The very reason is to demonize an idea before real dialogue and debate.

    This just happens to be one of my pet subjects, going back a very long time.

    There are a multitude of ways a Single Payer system can be implemented. Just keep the jews’ mitts off of it first and foremost.

    The health insurance scam is a jewish MEGA profit generator. THAT, first and foremost is the reason you hear the attacks and red herrings.

    Spencer is right on this issue, as far as I can tell.

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  3. guest
    April 3, 2017

    The true red pill is this action plan by KD, which addresses the root of the problem, cost, everything else is kicking the racketeering can down the road.

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  4. Cora
    April 3, 2017

    Even if healthcare could somehow be made affordable again it wouldn’t matter if the hospital is filled with non-white doctors and staff. The hospital near me is ranked #3 in the state, a modern building gives the illusion of modern medicine, but it’s staffed with third worlders giving third worlder care.

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  5. Hipster Racist
    April 3, 2017

    Regardless of one’s opinion on health care I had hoped that everyone could agree that it’s not worth paying attention to Matt Forney on any issue.

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    • icareviews
      April 3, 2017

      I’d actually gone months without reading or listening to any of his content, whereas, say, two or three years ago, I was listening to his show on a weekly basis. Forney is an opportunist, and gross, but I wouldn’t go as far as to say that he’s not worth any attention at all. His rhetoric on the Woman Question is too abrasive to be broadly appealing and is likely to alienate most people, and as his Philippines sex tourism book demonstrates, this guy can sink as low as they go in order to make a buck; but he can also be a highly articulate advocate of identitarian positions. I don’t pretend that his heart is in it, and he doesn’t cut the most photogenic of figures; but he can manage an admirable turn of phrase now and again. Consider Forney a guilty pleasure:

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      • Hipster Racist
        April 3, 2017

        He is not only a doxxer, he is the kind of creepy guy that stalks people’s children on line.

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      • Hipster Racist
        April 3, 2017

        Just to be clear: Matt Forney is the same thing as the people that outed MW. Matt Forney “doxxed” an anti-feminist woman, in COLLABORATION with anti-white leftists and feminists, and posted personal information and pictures of her children online.

        He was hoping to get her fired or otherwise in trouble for her “controversial” opinions. No reason to believe he’s not sucking up to the “alt right” for the exact same reasons.

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      • bob saffron
        April 3, 2017

        Forney names everything but the Jew.

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      • Hipster Racist
        April 3, 2017

        I’ve noticed since the beginning their are tiers to this race thing. Forney is making health care and the Trump vote somehow “anti-black.”

        It’s actually extremely acceptable on the “conservative” Republican side to be anti-black and anti-Muslim. Sure, it’s not really officially endorsed to be anti-black, but it’s certainly tolerated, and it’s completely acceptable to be anti-Muslim.

        I always thought the liberals were right in that a lot of conservative politics are based on anti-black sentiments. I think they are wrong that whites are willing to hurt themselves instead of allowing any government benefit to blacks – liberals are always pretending that social policies are not a zero-sum game, while turning right around and celebrating that politics are a zero sum game.

        Maybe I’m a white supremacist because I’ve always felt it was kind of low class, even white trash, to complain too much about blacks. You’re supposed to at least feign some sort of paternalistic realism – to do otherwise is to put yourself in competition with blacks. Respectable poor white people don’t do that either.

        I have noticed over and over again that when Jews are trying to worm their way into a pro-white movement, they tend to project their own prejudices and biases onto the “goy” Whites. Post 9/11 of course it’s all anti-Muslim, but before that they would try to suck up to Whites by being extremely anti-black and if they were trying to suck up to Christians by being anti-homosexual. It’s kind of amusing to see some Woody Allen doing his best imitation of what he think “racist conservative goys” are like – it usually involves some ranting about how niggers are apes and faggots should be killed. Let’s just say that it always comes across as somewhere between “trying way too hard” and an attempt at distraction.

        I think “opportunist” is right, Forney is just trying to carve out a niche for himself to make money online. Once his picture leaked online he couldn’t pull off the “Pick Up Artist” thing anymore, so after floudering around for a while he hitched his wagon to Trump and the “alt right.” When he was transitioning, he went to an AmRen conference and he and his friend caused a minor ruckus by getting drunk and thrown out of a bar for harassing women.

        So you know if the alt-right and Trump thing goes South he’ll likely do the “reformed racist now promotes tolerance SJW” thing.

        One really terrible thing about the internet is that people who utterly fail at their chosen professions – like Matt Forney and Matt Heimbach – can’t just drop it and get a honest job anymore, so they have to keep doubling down which just does even more damage to the causes they are supposedly supporting. Forney should be teaching creative writing at a community college somewhere, or working as a morning drive radio DJ, or maybe selling enterprise software or something. He is just not smart enough, not educated enough, and doesn’t have any wisdom or life experience to be a serious commenter on social issues or politics.

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      • icareviews
        April 3, 2017

        Conservatives have something of a split personality when it comes to blacks. They have a gut dislike for blacks in a lot of cases and know that they account for more than their share of the street crime and welfare leeching; but at the same time they don’t feel quite comfortable having these feelings and jump at the chance to revere a docile negro like Ben Carson (or, before him, Herman Cain, or, before him, Lawrence King). I can observe this first-hand in my working class neocon coworker. He’s a Christian Zionist and so believes in the equality of all (excepting the specialness of the Jews, of course), but at the same time, when no blacks are around, he will sometimes vent some frustration with black behavior. He seems to feel bad about it, though, and, whether consciously or unconsciously, douses any gleamings of race realism whenever a black person is around. Most of the time, he ridiculously overcompensates and goes out of his way to show how accepting he is of blacks. He seldom misses an opportunity to mention his favorite actor, Morgan Freeman, or how great Denzel Washington movies are; and he makes a point of mentioning that some black woman is “beautiful”. The consummate cuckservative, he recently told an anecdote about how he told his daughter (an obese single mom who has trouble meeting men) how he would be okay with her dating a black guy. Somewhere inside, in the cobwebbed recesses of his common sense, he’s aware that there’s something seriously wrong with blacks; but he’d rather contort himself into some imagined love for them than admit to himself or others that they’re fundamentally different on the inside. He’d rather cuck himself out of existence to make sure he gets an invitation to hang out with the big Jew in the sky when he dies.

        Forney actually would make a pretty funny morning radio host.

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      • icareviews
        April 3, 2017

        As I recall, he mentions Jews in the show embedded in this post. You’re right, though, at least to the extent that he doesn’t emphasize their role and prefers to finger the “Left”.

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      • bob saffron
        April 4, 2017

        Here’s another XXXL showing how it’s done:

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      • bob saffron
        April 4, 2017

        How does your Zog-bot colleague rationalize the habitual spitting on Christians by Orthodox Jews? Or that no church has ever been built anew on Israeli soil?
        http://www.haaretz.com/christians-in-jerusalem-want-jews-to-stop-spitting-on-them-1.137099

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      • icareviews
        April 4, 2017

        I think I actually mentioned the spitting to him on one occasion. I think it just went in one ear and out the other. Mostly I avoid the subject of Israel in order to maintain a positive workplace atmosphere. (Back in 2012, after he called Ron Paul a “pussy” for being anti-war, I said something about Israel being “on welfare” just to trigger him, and I think I actually saw his eyes misting up like he was really hurt.) My coworkers know I’m into weird “conspiracy theory” stuff and there probably is some whispering about me being some sort of bizarre right-winger, but none are aware of my racialist views. I keep the political discussions with the neocon guy to safe, simple stuff about the “Left” for the most part, although we’ll occasionally veer into Pizzagate or something offbeat if I think he might be open to it.

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      • Sam J.
        April 4, 2017

        “…Maybe I’m a white supremacist because I’ve always felt it was kind of low class, even white trash, to complain too much about blacks…”

        That’s because, I believe, you’re a Yankee. I’ve lived around Blacks all my life. I know exactly how they are. I used to feel sorry for them but now…I try as best as possible to structure my life where I have no interaction with them all. Difficult as there’s hoards of them where I live but it can be somewhat done. I’m polite enough to them but in all cases I try to distance myself from them as soon as possible.

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      • Hipster Racist
        April 4, 2017

        @Sam J

        No that is actually my Southern side coming out. Yankees expect blacks to act exactly like whites then hate them because they don’t. Southerners know that blacks aren’t like whites so don’t expect them to be. The old saying is “Southerners don’t mind living near blacks as long as they don’t act uppity, while northerners don’t mind blacks acting uppity as long as they don’t have to live near them.”

        Southerners may get annoyed at blacks and impatient with blacks, but they never get disappointed with blacks thus don’t hate blacks. Yankees are exactly the opposite – they tend to expect blacks to be just like whites then go into fits of rage when they aren’t. They tend to be the ones that are obsequious in sucking up to blacks then turning on them later.

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      • icareviews
        April 4, 2017

        It’s funny where I work because there’s this SJW who likes to suck up to blacks, but the black woman I work with can’t stand her at all and never has anything good to say about the SJW. She’s on better terms with the Propaganda Minister of Aryan Skynet.

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      • Hipster Racist
        April 4, 2017

        Nobody likes to be patronized.

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    • icareviews
      April 3, 2017

      No comments on the Samurai Cop clip?

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      • bob saffron
        April 4, 2017

        Disgusting (hair). Here’s something classier:

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  7. bob saffron
    April 3, 2017

    I re-listened to his presentation in the Identitarian Ideas IX clip, and it’s definitely ohne Juden. Anyway, he really needs a voice coach and some orofessional advice on public speaking. Say much less, slow down, breathe. Pause for effect, rather than raising your voice. People want gravitas in a man, not shrillness.

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    • icareviews
      April 3, 2017

      I said the show embedded in the post. The Matt Forney Show episode 140, not the video I linked in the comments.

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      • bob saffron
        April 4, 2017

        So you did.

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  8. eyeslevel
    April 5, 2017

    With whites facing genocide how could talking about national health care possibly get the the top of a pro-white’s to do list?

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    • Nick Dean
      April 5, 2017

      It couldn’t and didn’t. It was Spencer and Forney’s priority.

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  9. Anon1
    April 19, 2017

    Forney needs to be rigorously shunned.
    Mark these words; eventually, he will become curated opposition and trotted out by the mainstream media whenever they need a ‘spokesman’ for Alt Right issues.
    The fact he’s ugly and inarticulate with a spoken word isn’t even his biggest image problem. Watching him run in horror from two incredibly weak, flaming homosexuals
    who were chasing and mocking him was one of the most cringeworthy things I’ve ever seen in my life… and that is precisely the sort of image the media would love to
    (((curate))) for the alt right. The repellant sex-tourist who is ultimately an impotent coward. Forney is their wet dream, our worst nightmare. Public disavowals of him
    should be far and wide.

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