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Death Mills and Rumor Mills; or, British Intelligence Passes Gas

Many identitarians are aware of the origins of the infamous “six million” figure in Jewish mysticism; but what is the literary provenance of the alleged Nazi homicidal gas chambers? Andy Ritchie, in an informative article published this year by Inconvenient History, casts some much needed light on this issue of continuing relevance for the reputations of Germans generally and European nationalists everywhere:

For more than thirty years, historians have been aware of once-secret memoranda by senior British intelligence official Victor Cavendish-Bentinck in which he casts doubt on the alleged use of homicidal gas chambers by National Socialist Germany. Writing to Whitehall colleagues at the end of August 1943, Cavendish-Bentinck used dismissive language which today in most European countries would undoubtedly see him prosecuted for “Holocaust denial”.

During the trial of British historian David Irving’s libel action against Deborah Lipstadt in 2000 (now dramatized in the Hollywood film Denial) some of Cavendish-Bentinck’s remarks were raised by Irving as justification of his claim that the gas chamber story originated as a propaganda lie.

During the war years, Cavendish-Bentinck headed Britain’s Joint Intelligence Committee, which “had evolved shortly before the war and stood between the political and military ‘consumers’ of intelligence, and the organizations responsible for obtaining it, including MI6, MI5 and GC&CS (known today as GCHQ)” and was known as the “final arbiter of intelligence”.

In August of 1943, when Poland’s government-in-exile lobbied the British to issue a public condemnation of German atrocities in Poland, both Cavendish-Bentinck and his assistant Roger Allen were skeptical of the specific crimes alleged by the Poles to have been perpetrated against them. Allen was “unhappy about the statement, to be issued on the authority of His Majesty’s Government, that Poles ‘are now being systematically put to death in gas chambers’” or, as Polish telegrams termed the facilities, “gas cells”. Allen also had this to say:

It is true that there have been references to the use of gas chambers in other reports; but these references have usually, if not always, been equally vague, and since they have concerned the extermination of Jews, have usually emanated from Jewish sources.

Personally, I have never really understood the advantage of the gas chamber over the simpler machine gun, or the equally simple starvation method. These stories may or may not be true, but in any event I submit we are putting out a statement on evidence which is far from conclusive, and which we have no means of assessing.

Cavendish-Bentinck was quick to concur:

In my opinion it is incorrect to describe Polish information regarding German atrocities as “trustworthy”. The Poles, and to a far greater extent the Jews, tend to exaggerate German atrocities in order to stoke us up. They seem to have succeeded.

Mr Allen and myself have both followed German atrocities quite closely. I do not believe that there is any evidence which would be accepted in a Law Court that Polish children have been killed on the spot by Germans when their parents were being deported to work in Germany, nor that Polish children have been sold to German settlers. As regards putting Poles to death in gas chambers, I do not believe that there is any evidence that this has been done. There have been many stories to this effect, and we have played them up in PWE [i.e., Political Warfare Executive] rumours without believing that they had any foundation. At any rate there is far less evidence than exists for the mass murder of Polish officers by the Russians at Katyn. […]

I think that we weaken our case against the Germans by publicly giving credence to atrocity stories for which we have no evidence. These mass executions in gas chambers remind me of the stories of employment of human corpses during the last war for the manufacture of fat, which was a grotesque lie and led to the true stories of German atrocities being brushed aside as being mere propaganda.

Cavendish-Bentinck and Allen had found themselves on the receiving end of what amounted to disinformation blowback, with stories concocted in Britain being passed back to British intelligence agencies after having made the rounds of the international rumor mill. “Part of the problem” of ascertaining the origin of the stories “is that in the early years of the Second World War, Britain’s propaganda machinery was a tangle of bureaucratic and factional infighting,” Ritchie explains:

A year before the outbreak of war, an official Department of Propaganda in Enemy Countries was set up at Electra House, the London headquarters of the Cable & Wireless telegraph company. Around the same time, MI6 created Section D (based at St Ermin’s Hotel near St James’s Park) to study and prepare methods of unconventional warfare, including propaganda.

CavendishBentinck

Victor Cavendish-Bentinck

In July 1940 Section D became part of the new Special Operations Executive, which for a while took over Electra House’s operations as part of its own propaganda section known as SO1, based after November 1940 at Woburn Abbey, a country house in Bedfordshire. Continuing internal disputes led to the new Political Warfare Executive (PWE) being created in August 1941, under Foreign Office control. While PWE handled enemy countries, propaganda at home and in Allied countries was supposedly the domain of the Ministry of Information.

The documentary record showing British propagandists’ promotion of homicidal gassing stories runs from December 1940 (under SO1) to March 1942 (under PWE). In this period the gassing stories did not relate to Jews or Poles, but Cavendish-Bentinck would have suspected that the Jewish and Polish lobbies had picked up the story and put their own spin on it […]

One of the most secret parts of SO1/PWE work involved the propagation of rumors, known as “sibs” from the Latin verb sibilare (to whisper), by an Underground Propaganda (UP) Committee. This dated back to the Electra House days in 1940 shortly before the creation of SOE, and continued through the various bureaucratic changes.

“It should be emphasised that the method of dissemination is essentially oral, and this is the most difficult form of propaganda for enemy security services to deal with,” wrote David Bowes-Lyon, Chairman of the Underground Propaganda Committee.

death mills

Title card from Billy Wilder’s 1945 propaganda film Death Mills, which charges the German concentration camp system with the extermination of twenty million innocents.

Hatched in a propaganda factory and then released into the information wilderness as it were, the gassing stories were picked up and perpetuated by a network of Christian organizations. The initial Special Operations Executive rumor dealt with euthanasia, alleging “that the Superintendent of the Bethel Institute for Incurables had been sent to Dachau for refusing to permit the inmates to be put in lethal chambers.” The Bethel Institution for Incurables, Ritchie explains, “was a well-known Protestant charitable hospital for the mentally ill and epileptics. In fact its director – Protestant theologian Friedrich von Bodelschwingh – was not sent to Dachau or any other camp.” However:

The main purpose of this sib was to stir up hostility between the Churches and the National Socialist Government over the issue of eugenics and euthanasia. SO1’s French specialist Prof. Denis Brogan (a Cambridge political scientist) was said to have “extremely fine Catholic contacts” in various countries, and “Catholic channels for rumours” were also discussed with Douglas Woodruff, the influential editor of the Catholic journal The Tablet. At this very early stage, the gassing rumor was restricted to “incurables” – it was a story about euthanasia rather than politically or racially motivated executions.

A few months later SOE reported with satisfaction that this sib had been picked up by Vatican Radio. […]

Early permutations of the gas rumor current among Swiss civilians included the tale that German hospitals, unable to cope with the volume of victims from British bombings, had started to “open the gas and kill them”. One variation on the gas horror went as follows:

Guards and superintendents of trains containing wounded German soldiers from the Eastern Front are ordered at certain places to put on their gas masks. The trains then enter a tunnel where they remain for upwards of half an hour. On leaving the tunnel all the wounded soldiers are dead. Severely wounded soldiers are disposed of in the same manner in so-called emergency hospitals, of which there are many.

Ritchie continues:

The Inter-Services Security Board (through which PWE and others cleared their rumors in case they inadvertently clashed with other British secret operations) had raised no objection, and added: “We recommend this rumour also as useful propaganda.”

This recommendation might have proved significant in the longer term. The difference between a rumor/sib and propaganda is of course that the former (as with “black” propaganda) was intended to be untraceable to British sources.

During 1941 SOE “disseminated a rumour that the Germans had ordered 500 mobile crematorium units from the Ford works in Cologne and Antwerp to be ready by the Spring”. This sib came back in the form of a story circulating in France that “the German army has crematory ovens installed in lorries and cremate all their own dead. […] This enables the Germans to fix a figure for their losses at whatever they please, and leave no evidence to controvert them.” Later an intercepted Swiss letter showed a variant of this rumor, that the Germans “burn their dead in travelling crematoria and keep their losses carefully concealed until the campaign is ended.

British Gas

Gas vans

It is easy to speculate that the mobile crematoria might have metamorphosed in Jewish renditions of the rumors into the “gas vans” still accepted as historical fact today. The grand irony of it all is that the original fodder for the gas cells and the crematoria was supposed to have been the Germans themselves. One only laments that a more colorful British rumor insinuating cannibalism – that “Germans are rounding up healthy Russian prisoners and transferring them in batches of a thousand at a time to a prison camp near Kiev” and that “cans of something called ‘Russian beef’ are already being exported from a factory near Kiev to the most hard hit parts in the Ruhr” – did not find its way into the popular imagination via Hollywood. If only the Brits had said it was “Jewish beef”, it probably would have.

Rainer Chlodwig von K.

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85 comments on “Death Mills and Rumor Mills; or, British Intelligence Passes Gas

  1. icareviews
    March 25, 2017

    Reblogged this on icareviews.

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  3. bob saffron
    March 26, 2017

    Just when you think that Nazism is a totally spent force…

    and Rein Jüdisches Fett merely a grotesque nightmare fantasy…

    Worse still, others have been emboldened.

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    • Hipster Racist
      March 27, 2017

      I’ll definitely have to pick up some Fash body wash. Very Hipster Hitler like.

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      • bob saffron
        March 28, 2017

        The final solution for racial hygiene.

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  4. bob saffron
    March 26, 2017

    The constant arms-race would have seen gas supplant kinetic weapons had it been more effective.

    Amazon’s banning of revisionist books marks another Pyrrhic victory of the thought-police.

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  5. NoddinHead
    March 26, 2017

    Sorry not paying attention to post at hand. Just wanting to point out how fucking weak Trump is, how he has the Presidency and control of both houses of Congress and still failed to change anything about “obamacare”. My guess is that “they” can’t do anything about it. Garbage.

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  6. NoddinHead
    March 26, 2017

    Face it, he isn’t even trying and his campaign was complete bullshit. More of the same.

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    • bob saffron
      March 26, 2017

      Treasury’s General Account has dropped very precipitously (select 5Y window) and although tax receipts will defer the problem, the debt ceiling negotiation makes me suspect that the mooted boost to infrastructure spending just isn’t going to eventuate.
      https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/WTREGEN

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  7. NoddinHead
    March 26, 2017

    Imho, an utter failure and wimp less than 100 days into his Presidency i have been reading this blog so totally expected. Still can’t explain why other WN blogs are so fucking blind to the obvious.

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    • icareviews
      March 26, 2017

      His infrastructure plan looks pretty weak and corrupt if this analysis is accurate:

      http://www.counterpunch.org/2017/03/15/trumps-infrastructure-boondoggle/

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      • bob saffron
        March 26, 2017

        I find myself in agreement with only one point raised by Counterpunch – investors who have piled into the bourse with expectations of a spending bonanza are set to be disappointed. (A boost to GDP, by the way, tells nothing about whether wealth is being destroyed or created, but we live in times when absurdities pass for wisdom).

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  8. NoddinHead
    March 26, 2017

    I might just stop paying my ridiculously expensive health insurance premiums. Small way of going on strike (not in a John Galt way, can’t stand Randian ideologues either)…

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  9. NoddinHead
    March 26, 2017

    Might be good to hold guns to heads of health care people, forcing them coercively to do the work they should already be doing anyway. Hippocratic Oath, etc. And if they refuse? Fuck em, they ain’t doing their jobs. Probably should shoot a few of the worst, most greedy offenders. I suspect the actual providers are being screwed by the financiers as much or more than we consumers.

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    • icareviews
      March 26, 2017

      I interpret these words of yours as metaphors; but please remember for our sake that hostile visitors to the site might not be inclined to do the same. We’re living in a time when the government and corporate (transgender) Man is itching for excuses to clamp down on free speech, so don’t give them any excuses.

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      • icareviews
        March 28, 2017

        I’ve never been into the prepper stuff or militia scene. I don’t live too far from a police station, so I would expect that to cut down on the likelihood of an Antifa mob taking over my neighborhood. We don’t even really have people like that in significant numbers where I live. Some fat feminists whose militancy is defined by which comic books they read. A few BLM wannabes did a die-in at a shopping center once and handfuls of bored lefties have held signs outside City Hall, but that’s about it. Mainly what we have is run-of-the-mill criminal blacks and Mexicans. If my part of town did go full dirty war mode, the entrepreneurial and socially cohesive Mexicans would probably have the edge. I’m a supporter of the second amendment, but it’s never seemed worthwhile to me to own a gun. My neighborhood is so heavily non-white and so atomized that I’m not even certain what I’d be defending apart from my life, which is probably best safeguarded by moving elsewhere.

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      • bob saffron
        March 29, 2017

        You’ve not had ugly any physical encounters with the diverse?

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      • icareviews
        March 29, 2017

        A relative of mine was attacked and robbed by blacks and briefly hospitalized. A few years back I was afraid for my life when I happened to be passing a convenience store when one man hit another over the head with a bottle and ran away. The victim, lifting himself from the ground, immediately glared at me as if I had been the one who did it and followed me for several feet as if about to attack me. Other than that, no real physical encounters with blacks unless you count the time when, as the only white kid living in a ghetto apartment complex, I was punched by an older black kid who had pretended he was about to whisper something in my ear. Mainly, blacks are just a nuisance. Beggars, public urinators, and so forth. Last year I rounded a corner to find myself face to face with a loafer with both hands down the front of his pants who, when he saw me move to avoid him, said, “Why you gotta be so shitty, man?”

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      • bob saffron
        March 29, 2017

        “any ugly” (vestigial dyslexia ☺).

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  10. NoddinHead
    March 26, 2017

    I am serious. We need to coerce these overpaid people to provide affordable health care services. If they refuse, fuck em, they can compete for other jobs that don’t pay so well.

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    • Sam J.
      March 26, 2017

      That’s fucking nuts. Doctors go to school for long hours then work for slave wages at interneships. Medical school is not easy and cost a lot. Yet some kid goes to business school gets with the right firm and they take over a company and raid the pension fund for millions and lay everybody off. Who should be shot? The Doctor is at least doing something. A large part of the financial industry is actively destroying the country. You want they should work for free? Ok lets see the business class and the bankers work for no more than the Doctors.

      Doctors are bad about monopolizing services that could be taken care of by R.N.’s and they do limit competition but they are way, way, way far down on the list of people who are fucking the country up. A large part of their cost are from mandatory preventive medicine to keep from being sued.

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  11. NoddinHead
    March 26, 2017

    Tangentially, i sometimes wonder if the whole idea of health and longevity is artificially promoted as way to increase sales of shit you don’t need. Is it really that important to live a long time? Sometimes i think fear of death is artificially promoted as another way of selling unnecessary crap. People are literally brainwashed to fear death.

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    • icareviews
      March 26, 2017

      Fearing death is instinctive, and there’s nothing wrong with being healthy; but longer lifespans have created a strange situation and a socioeconomic imbalance for us in the developed world. Libertarian Realist isn’t a fan of the geezers:

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  12. NoddinHead
    March 26, 2017

    Sorry just smelling my own farts a bit. But seriously, the whole medical-insurance complex relies on fear of death to make huge profits. And everyone is gonna die anyway. Way too much money involved trying to delay the inevitable.

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    • Sam J.
      March 26, 2017

      It’s not fear of death. It’s fear of the pain that comes before death.

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  13. NoddinHead
    March 26, 2017

    I like this blog for many reasons, one of which is it makes me forget temporarily about about the JQ, without ever ignoring it. The JQ can become an unhealthy obsession, in my experience.

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    • icareviews
      March 26, 2017

      Interesting. It never would have occurred to me that anything I do online would cause people to FORGET about the JQ, even temporarily. Jews aren’t our only problem, of course – far from it – but I do think it’s very important, if not necessarily a continuous priority, that we identify their role in our people’s collective catastrophe.

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  14. icareviews
    March 26, 2017

    Erdogan says if Europeans “weren’t ashamed, they would revive the gas chambers” to reduce the Turk population and already “are right now employing Nazi measures.”

    http://dailycaller.com/2017/03/20/erdogan-europeans-would-revive-gas-chambers-to-reduce-number-of-turks/

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  15. smartwhiteguy
    March 26, 2017

    “THERE IS NO HOLOCAUST RELATED ACTIVITY in the German coded traffic which they did not know was being picked up by the British.”
    http://www.rense.com/general88/hx.htm

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  16. smartwhiteguy
    March 26, 2017

    Reblogged this on murderbymedia3.

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  17. Sam J.
    March 26, 2017

    The whole holohoax story is completely bullshit. A simple, simple look at one photo of all those skinny bodies would tell you it’s a lie. It takes months to get that skinny from starvation. Even if you do have disease then it still takes a long time to get that skinny. If the Germans were gassing them and burning them up in ovens why did they keep all those skinnies that obviously could do zero work? The question answers itself.

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    • bob saffron
      March 26, 2017

      Typhus produces extreme and rapid weight loss. I believe starvation was the lesser cause of mortality.

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      • icareviews
        March 26, 2017

        Typhus was the major factor in the prisoners’ skinniness, but lack of food was also a problem as the survivor in this video attests:

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      • bob saffron
        March 26, 2017

        Sure. There are pictures of non-skeletal inmates liberated from Dachau, however. From memory, Rassinier’s The Lie of Ulysses describes how food and work was allocated by Communists (presumably Jews) – the ruling faction within the camps. The non-aligned or enemies of the Communists in the camps got reduced rations and privileges. Averaging out the calories across the number of inmates doesn’t give the right picture.

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      • bob saffron
        March 26, 2017

        Good video. I still was a believer even after visiting Dachau and its shower/gas-chamber/shower.

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    • bob saffron
      March 26, 2017

      “why did they keep all those skinnies that obviously could do zero work?”

      For the pure, evil pleasure of creating unnecesssary suffering, of course.

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      • Sam J.
        March 28, 2017

        Oh those evil Germans. That they trained them in and gassed them right away was a lie designed to hide the truth. They made them suffer, THEN gassed them and burnt them in ovens.

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    • Sam J.
      March 28, 2017

      My basic point stands. If they were able to burn up six million Jews they would have been able to burn these up too.

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  18. Hipster Racist
    March 27, 2017

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  20. bob saffron
    March 28, 2017

    http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/22571684-hustling-hitler

    Is it possible that Hitler himself got jewed over a nickel deal in 1936?

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    • icareviews
      March 28, 2017

      Maybe he’s the one who pushed Hitler over the edge, tipped his psychological needle from nasty to pure, unadulterated EVIL, and thereby inadvertently precipitated the Holocaust. Bernstein’s family should pay reparations.

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    • Sam J.
      March 28, 2017

      I read that Hitler used to have to go around 12 year old German prostitutes and their Jewish pimp to leave his ghetto apartment every day. I could see that being a factor.

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      • icareviews
        March 28, 2017

        I remember one of my high school history teachers telling the class some bullshit stories about how Hitler got thrown out of a flophouse by a burly Jewish landlord and how Hitler caught VD from a Jewish prostitute. The same instructor had one of his old college history papers in the school library as a reserved reading. There was bogus junk in it about Nazis training dogs to rape little girls, etc. It would probably be hilarious to read that paper at this distance.

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      • bob saffron
        March 29, 2017

        “Again the life in the street gave some really evil demonstrations. In no other city of western Europe could the relationship between Jewry and prostitution, and even now the white slave traffic, be studied better than in Vienna, with the possible exception of the seaports of Southern France. When walking at night through the streets and alleys of the Leopoldstadt, with every step one could witness things which were unknown to the greater part of the German nation until the war gave the soldiers on the Eastern Front an opportunity to see similar things, or rather forced them to see them. An icy shudder ran down my spine when seeing for the first time the Jew as a cool, shameless, and calculating manager of this shocking vice, the outcome of the scum of the big city. ”

        This, the “icy shudder”, is the only reflection from Mein Kampf that lingered in my memory after the first reading of the work. (Interestingly, this excerpt from the Internet Archive edition had three really basic typos, including Leopoldstadt, which I’ve corrected. (“Bitteschön, mein Führer!”) (((Strange))) that not even a basic proofreading was done.

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      • bob saffron
        March 29, 2017

        From my goy history teacher (in a class with a rich percentage of Jews): his girlfriends prior to Eva Braun all killed themselves on account of his perversion; he was into golden showers, giving and receiving; had only one testicle. His sexual inadequacy and foibles were why the Six Million had to go.

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      • bob saffron
        March 29, 2017

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      • Sam J.
        March 31, 2017

        “…the relationship between Jewry and prostitution…”

        This is another data point that shows the Jews are a tribe of psychopaths. It’s widely known that pimps are lacking in empathy. I’m not saying all are but it’s an extremely high number.

        Talking about history if people knew what the Jews did in Russia, Spain and many, many other places there would be much less love for them. They should teach children about the Jewish White slave trade.

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  21. Primarius Krone
    April 1, 2017

    Following those YouTube videos and reading the comments reminds me once again why I have given up (for now) on commenting about the Holyhoax. It’s just non-stop work.

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    • icareviews
      April 1, 2017

      The “Holocaust” is the foundation myth of the present order. It’s central both to Judaism and Christianity as practiced today and has been a crucial catalyst in fusing the two.

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      • Primarius Krone
        April 2, 2017

        I was certainly aware of how they use this event to brow-beat white people over their legitimate interests, but was not aware of the religious ramifications. Got any links?

        Perhaps that’s why there was such much hoo-ha from the comments of Bishop Williamson a couple of years ago.

        As a side note, I actually became a revisionist first, before discovering nationalism. Way back then, I was merely curious to find out the true extent of the alleged crimes, only to discover my people have endured an incredible defamation of character.

        I have the dubious privilege of having become Jew-wise prior to witnessing the 3rd world transformation of my home land.

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      • icareviews
        April 2, 2017

        Here’s some discussion of the spiritual dimensions of the six million:

        https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=6017

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      • icareviews
        April 2, 2017

        Here’s some further discussion of the supposed significance of the six million figure:

        http://www.thebirdman.org/Index/Jews/Jews-History&ScripturalOriginOfThe6MillionNumber.html

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      • Sam J.
        April 4, 2017

        The Bird Man is interesting. I’ve read I think most or a lot of the stuff on his site.

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  22. Primarius Krone
    April 2, 2017

    Ah yes, the sacred 6 million. I must admit, I knew this part – that the “6 million” is of some sort of arcane significance to them, but how it influences or binds it to Christianity is a mystery to me. I’ll continue reading, thanks for the links!

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    • icareviews
      April 2, 2017

      Michael Hoffman is fond of the term “Holocaustianity”. The hoax has even given rise to a whole field of “Holocaust theology” and a personal acquaintance even told me once that the occurrence of the Holocaust had caused him to doubt the existence of God, and I don’t think his experience is necessarily unique. It constitutes the average westerner’s idea of the epitome of evil, with the Jews presumably being the ultimate innocents by implication. According to Jurgen Moltmann, God was in Auschwitz.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_theology#J.C3.BCrgen_Moltmann

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  23. NoddingHead
    April 5, 2017

    March 26, 2017

    “I interpret these words of yours as metaphors; but please remember for our sake that hostile visitors to the site might not be inclined to do the same. We’re living in a time when the government and corporate (transgender) Man is itching for excuses to clamp down on free speech, so don’t give them any excuses.”

    They were indeed metaphors. And I totally agree with a later poster that the providers (most of them anyway) are blameless tools and in fact often earn less than they should. Financial parasites take the lion’s share of the massive wealth funneled into “health care” nowdays.

    This fear of saying what one means reminds me of what East Germany was probably like under the Stasi. I had a girlfriend who grew up in Dresden and Leipzig and she told me about the distrust.

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    • icareviews
      April 5, 2017

      We want people to be free to speak their minds here, but we have to be clear about what we mean, particularly since text sans spoken inflection can be interpreted variously. It’s easy for people to willfully misread things.

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  24. NoddingHead
    April 5, 2017

    To me it seems that the US has slowly but surely become what the USSR used to be, albeit with much more sophisticated PR and propoganda. Neocons being ex-Trotskyists seems like a big clue. Any thoughts on that?

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    • icareviews
      April 5, 2017

      Others have made that connection, and there are definitely parallels. It isn’t entirely over-the-top to speak of “PC totalitarianism”, with the difference that much of the police state and thought control apparatus has been privatized, with SJWs keeping surveillance on public expression. We still technically have the freedom of speech in the United States; but when you fear for your livelihood if you speak your mind openly, that’s clearly an erosion of free speech as most people understand the concept. The USSR was harsher in many ways than life in the U.S., but also preferable in some of its aspects, like the avoidance of mass immigration and cultural Marxist depravity. Conservatives mostly wasted their time worrying about the Soviet Union during the Cold War. The real enemy headquarters were New York, Washington, and Hollywood.

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  25. NoddingHead
    April 5, 2017

    “Democracy” oriented western governments completely controlled by global banks, with massive media almost totally controlling the minds of the “citizens”. To make it look more legit, there are constantly warring factions, for example Fox vs MSNBC. But neither one ever questions the big stuff like 9/11. All severely ridicule everyone who questions that kind of thing.

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  26. NoddingHead
    April 5, 2017

    The paralells aren’t just the cultural marxism, internal spying, and free speech/free association stuff. It is also our global aggression against sovereign states dressed up as “humanitarian” interventionism. What scares me most is the homogeneity of what we still call the “free press”. Homogeneously telling lies, imho. I tend to agree that the latest accusations against Assad for “gassing his own people” are total vs and false flag.

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  27. NoddingHead
    April 5, 2017

    *bs

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  28. NoddingHead
    April 5, 2017

    We all know about the USSR making “anti-semitism” a very serious crime with serious consequences including the death penalty. And the Soviet Union was indeed a very multi-culti experiment. With Russians and other white people inevitably ending up on top likely due to the usual IQ differences between ethnic groups.

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  29. NoddingHead
    April 5, 2017

    Uzbeks and Tajiks and Kazaks, though filled with vim and vigor and some admirable abilities, could never hope to match or seriously challenge Russians (or Georgians or Lithuanians) for leadership in the USSR.

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  30. NoddingHead
    April 6, 2017

    I worked in Kazakhstan for 6 months, just after the USSR broke up. Russians pretty much still ran things but political leadership by necessity had to be Kazak. They all drank vodka and I liked my time there.

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  31. NoddingHead
    April 6, 2017

    Looked kind of like Texas and California and Arizona do now. White people still pretty much run things that matter, even though they have to put up Hispanics as political figureheads in many cases to make things go smoother.

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  32. NoddingHead
    April 6, 2017

    Of course, there are indeed some very competant Hispanic and non-white central Asian people. Not saying whites are the only competant people on Earth. Just that most of them have significant percentages of white blood in their lineages.

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  33. NoddingHead
    April 6, 2017

    The non-white people do seem to be much more prone to corruption for material gains, and less prone to selfless service to the community at large (whites are clearly the most prone to altruism). Whites lose to Jews because whites aren’t as loyal to their various ethnic groups. Jews very cohesive and collectivist.

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  34. NoddingHead
    April 6, 2017

    Our genes and our social qualities which helped us to rise to the top of the human pyramid during and shortly after the Pleistocene are likely to totally fuck us now. Looking quite grim, folks. Unless we can somehow gain control of the media. Very unlikely. Grim, grim, grim.

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    • icareviews
      April 6, 2017

      “Unless we can somehow gain control of the media.”

      It’s not 1960 anymore. Americans get their information from more than just three TV networks. People are waking up every day. Cynicism accomplishes nothing. In the seconds you spent typing “Grim, grim, grim”, you could have been tweeting Israeli atrocity videos at Christian Zionists. New opportunities arise all the time.

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  35. NoddingHead
    April 6, 2017

    I would say our best and only hope is for each of us to find an intelligent white mate and have as many kids as possible and do your best to teach them. I woke up from the propaganda too late, and don’t have any kids. I fully bought into the overpopulation meme, which of course was really only meant for productive and intelligent white people.

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  36. NoddingHead
    April 6, 2017

    Ideally, we would have very strict laws against abortion for white people but other laws and handouts generously encouraging abortion and providing free birth control for unproductive non-whites. I know how that plays in our Orwell society. Impossible. Possibly a prosectutable hate opinion.

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  37. NoddingHead
    April 9, 2017

    Yes, I am very cynical in recent years. Trump’s bombing of Syria makes me even more so. Although I was not one who thought Trump was anyrhing more than a media-made Israel-firster who gained the Presidency by sophisticated reverse-psychological means, I didn’t think he would actually carry out the wishes of neocon Jews and Hillary (and rejecting those who elected him) by bombing the Syrian government so soon into his term. And the “bi-partisan” and “international” vocal support of that action increases my cynicism yet again. The big media cheerleading all the way, with no hint of any effective protests whatsoever, does nothing but make me yet more cynical. Despite the existence of Twitter, effective media control of pertinent public opinion may be even more complete now than it was in 1960.

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    • icareviews
      April 10, 2017

      Twitter is far from the only game in town. The corporate media, it’s true, are highly consolidated, but the internet is presenting it with a formidable challenge and taking a bite out of mainstream numbers in a not negligible way.

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  38. NoddingHead
    April 9, 2017

    I think cynicism can indeed be helpful. The charade of US electoral politics may be brought down if enough people became cynical enough about it to not participate and legitimate it. All the division, all the big hopes wrought over “Trump vs Hillary”, to what end? Same exact policies or at least same exact results.

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  39. NoddingHead
    April 9, 2017

    I did post this on Facebook, but of course it outs me as a “Russian stooge”…
    https://sputniknews.com/columnists/201704071052423296-poodle-trump-runs-with-dogs-of-war/

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  40. NoddingHead
    April 12, 2017

    Wondering if you meant to castigate me for defeatism rather than cynicism. Anyway, yes, I am very encouraged by what seems to be a lot of dissent all around against the MSM cheerleading for Trump’s 180 degree pivot. Not just in the overtly WN world. Anti-War and Justin Raimondo always seem to be on the right side of things foreign-policy wise imo. But they (he) still can’t take the correct side about 9/11.

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    • icareviews
      April 12, 2017

      He’s come very close before. Back when the “28 pages” psyop was being promoted, Raimondo published a post suggesting that it contained information about Israel. I think the idea behind the whole “28 pages” thing was to get people excited about the possibility that some damning revelation about Israel or the CIA would come out in order to make the truthers look stupid – in addition, of course, to misdirecting the run-of-the-mill goyim to continue concerning themselves with the Arab menace.

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  41. NoddingHead
    April 12, 2017

    Defeatism sets in due to the knowledge that 9/11, the real enabler of all of this, was the giant mother false-flag of all time and absolutely no mainstream or fake alternative media will even look at it as such. Despite thousands of highly respected professionals being signatories to AE 9/11 Truth. And the lies by the government and media about “WMD” back in 2003.

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    • icareviews
      April 12, 2017

      It is depressing to think about the fact that a person can lose his job just for stating the truth about an event as important as that. The same goes for WW2, of course. I support revisionism on both subjects, but we can’t concern ourselves with those things alone. There are other areas where we can still continue to advance our cause by arguing our positions on issues less likely to generate hysterics and cognitive dissonance.

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  42. NoddingHead
    April 12, 2017

    As an aside, do you guys have an explanation for Justin Raimondo’s refusal to name 9/11 as the false-flag that it is? He seems so otherwise intelligent except for his acceptance of the official government theory on 9/11. I know he is a “free market” ideologue of the Austrian School and a worshiper of Ron Paul. Wonder if that can explain it.

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    • icareviews
      April 12, 2017

      Somebody told me he stopped talking about Israel in connection with 9/11 after having a “heart attack”, but I have no idea if that’s true. He acknowledged the Israeli presence in the room not very long after the event, back when it was still dangerous to do so; and it wouldn’t at all surprise me if somebody put a scare into him. Also, as you indicate, it’s impolite in libertarian circles to talk about “the Jews” and all that. They cling to their postracial illusions.

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  43. NoddingHead
    April 12, 2017

    I suspect he knows the truth but can’t say it because he has a popular web site that generates an income and he doesn’t want to give it up.

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