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Muslims, Militiamen, and – the Mossad? The Oklahoma City Bombing Considered as Israel’s “Baby Godzilla”

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38 comments on “Muslims, Militiamen, and – the Mossad? The Oklahoma City Bombing Considered as Israel’s “Baby Godzilla”

  1. icareviews
    April 22, 2016

    Reblogged this on icareviews.

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  2. indravaruna
    April 23, 2016

    I remember this woman talking about the “Iraq” connection to the OKC bombing from years ago, even before my awakening I knew it was bullshit.

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    • icareviews
      April 23, 2016

      I remember hearing about it years and years ago, maybe even in the 90s, way before I was aware of false flag terror or anything like that; and I just remember that it struck me as odd. I was too lazy and stupid back then to look into the implications, though.

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  3. kerberos616
    April 23, 2016

    Reblogged this on Kerberos616.

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  4. Hipster Racist
    April 23, 2016

    “John Doe #2” – who was apparently involved in the “Elohim City” thing.

    It’s all blowback.

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    • icareviews
      April 23, 2016

      Is it? If you watch the third video I’ve posted, there are serious questions about whether or not McVeigh’s bomb would have been capable of creating the damage exhibited by the Murrah building. It’s also interesting to note that, just as in the case of the WTC, the crime scene was destroyed lest inconvenient forensic scrutiny challenge the official narrative.

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      • Hipster Racist
        April 23, 2016

        Oh yes, I know. John Doe #2 was apparently an agent provocateur and the entire Elohim City thing was an op since the very beginning.

        My assumption is that OKC held Iran-contra records.

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      • icareviews
        April 23, 2016

        OKC is a topic I’ve definitely neglected. I plan to read a lot more about it in the future. It’s clearly a rabbit hole of some magnitude.

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    • TheZOG
      April 24, 2016

      “John Doe #2” – who was apparently involved in the “Elohim City” thing.

      John Doe #2 was Andreas Strassmeier, a Jewish German MILITARY intelligence operative.

      https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Andreas_Stra%C3%9Fmeir

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  5. Hipster Racist
    April 23, 2016

    Carol A. Valentine, a Judeo-critical writer, did a piece on the Branch Davidian attacks titled “The Cukoo’s Egg.” The official story says that McVeigh did the OKC attacks as revenge for the attacks on the Branch Davidians. That’s probably not true, but the two incidents were very much linked in the public mind.

    The Branch Davidians seem to have been just a small cult of religious cranks, mostly harmless. But David Koresh had some interesting connections to Islam. His adopted name “Koresh,” is the Anglicization of “Quaresh” which the Mohammed’s clan name. Koresh also wrote a letter to the Ayatollah Kohmeni and may have been in correspondence with him. Koresh had also turned away from Christian Zionism and had a very low opinion of Israel from a visit there.

    All during the Clinton administration, which remember was mostly pre-internet, there were rumors surrounding the Mena Arkansas airport. Apparently this was where the CIA was importing cocaine during the Reagan/Bush administrations, and Clinton was likely in on it. Perhaps this is how Clinton was able to contest George H. W. Bush for power.

    Remember that election was the first time the news media allowed a third party candidate any significant airtime and even allowed Ross Perot into the debate. Perot hated Bush for some reason and took just enough votes from him to allow Clinton to win.

    The Branch Davidian assault came two days after the 1993 World Trade Center bombing and had the effect of taking that attack off of the front pages. It may have been simply for that purpose, while they had planned on arresting Koresh for months they seemed to have purposefully escalated the confrontation.

    McVeigh was reported to have met with several men from the Middle East. My guess is that these Middle Easterners were “Gladio Team B” as Sibel Edmonds styles them. They were essentially hired hands working for the US undercover. The reason the FBI never really went after “John Doe #2” is likely because he was working for the US.

    McVeigh wrote a strange letter to his sister while he was still in the Army claiming he was recruited for a special operation and that he was involved in drug running. Interestingly too, McVeigh asked that his body not be autopsied and one of the witnesses to his execution said he was still breathing after he had been declared dead. Gore Vidal famously did some interviews with McVeigh and wrote about a “conspiracy” but just three months after his execution we had … 9/11.

    All of this deep state history comes into focus when you just remember that the CIA headquarters in Arlington, Virginia is named “The George H. W. Bush Center for Intelligence.” Poppy Bush was probably the manager of the JFK assassination and can be seen as, essentially, the American Godfather of his era.

    Which makes Trump taking down Bush heir apparent Jeb! all the more interesting.

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    • icareviews
      April 24, 2016

      “The Branch Davidian assault came two days after the 1993 World Trade Center bombing and had the effect of taking that attack off of the front pages.”

      Also, as the documentary Rules of Engagement points out, it came ahead of congressional appropriations hearings that would determine how much these agencies would be getting for the next fiscal year. A public relations coup would be a plus going into these proceedings.

      “The reason the FBI never really went after ‘John Doe #2’ is likely because he was working for the US.”

      and/or Israel.

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      • Hipster Racist
        April 24, 2016

        IIRC, John Doe #2 was Andrew Streismeier, a German, who seems typical of the Gladio NATO operatives.

        The “white supremacist compound” known as Elohim City looks like it was big FBI honeypot and there was likely ADL involvement there as well.

        Snell was involved in filming the planes that landed at the restricted airport in Mena, Arkansas, believed by many conspiracy theorists to be used in a government sanctioned cover-up. Snell believed that the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) was using this airport to smuggle drugs into America. He was also a White supremacist and a believer in the Christian Identity religion, and frequented Elohim City, a private community located in Oklahoma, created by members of Ellison’s organization.

        The remains of former Elohim City guest Richard Snell were released to Elohim City residents following his April 19, 1995, execution in Arkansas. Snell taunted jailers that something drastic would happen on the day of his execution. The Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building was destroyed by explosives in the hours before he died.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elohim_City,_Oklahoma

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Snell_%28criminal%29

        We know that Israel was involved in Iran-Contra, but they were brought in later and weren’t a driving force. Poppy Bush was never particularly a fan of Israel and was known as an Arabist. I’m unsure of how much of Piper’s ideas I really buy.

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      • icareviews
        April 24, 2016

        Strassmeier has been connected with McVeigh, but John Doe no. 2 was described as being possibly “Middle Eastern” in appearance.

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      • icareviews
        April 24, 2016

        If Israel wasn’t involved in OKC, their partisans nevertheless had a prefabricated narrative ready to attach to the bombing. This Mylroie woman, connected with Wolfowitz, is a person of interest:

        http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/05/jeb-bush-adviser-paul-wolfowitz

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      • Hipster Racist
        April 24, 2016

        Other leading neocons praised her work, including former CIA director R. James Woolsey

        Ah, my favorite nemesis, the self-described leader of the “Presbyterian wing of the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs.”

        The people pushing the war against Iraq blamed literally everything on Saddam Hussein. They even tried to involve Saddam Hussein with 9/11, but the establishment couldn’t really maintain credibility pushing that idea. Although it is interesting that virtually half the country agreed with the idea that Saddam Hussein was somehow involved in 9/11.

        I’ve always maintained that you can see Israeli influence as a distortion of US policy. I don’t think the Afghanistan war can be blamed on Israel, that was a Brezinski Grand Chessboard thing since the beginning, and has to do with Russia and China. But the Iraq was was clearly an Israeli op.

        How that plays into 9/11 I’m not exactly sure. It was Afghanistan, not Iraq, that was the immediate consequence of 9/11. But we know that the Bush administration was planning the Iraq war from day one.

        I’m sure that Israel was involved in 9/11, but it’s hard to see how they could have been the sole perpetrator. At the very least, Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Tenat, et al, had to look the other way. There were top level people in the US military that could have and should have prevented it, and there’s no indication that they were all Israelis.

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      • icareviews
        April 24, 2016

        Nobody is saying that Jews and only Jews were involved in these plots. I see massive events like the JFK assassination and 9/11 as the work of a number of groups representing confluence of interest. Afghanistan, in addition to giving USG access to the heroin crop that had been stifled by the Taliban, would also furnish a base of operations conveniently close to Iran, which as we all know is the big boy on the long-run hit list.

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    • Sam J.
      April 28, 2016

      “…Perot hated Bush for some reason…”

      I wonder if it was the POW/MIA issue. Bush ran the CIA. Maybe he stopped or hindered Perot in the POW/MIA issue. It was important to Perot. If Bush hindered him in any way I could see Perot investigating Bush and Bush has a lot of sketchy stuff around him. Maybe Perot saw a chance to run for President, do some good for the country and stick it to Bush. Win, win, win.

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      • Hipster Racist
        April 30, 2016

        @Sam J.

        That’s a good point, if I remember correctly, the POW/MIA issue was really big with Perot.

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      • Sam J.
        May 8, 2016

        POW/MIA was a HUGE issue for Perot. When Iran was taken over by the hard liners he went there with special forces he hired and got his employees taken hostage out of Iran. The guy he hired was a former commander of the mission that failed to rescue the POW’s in North Vietnam. They NVA had moved the prisoners right before they got there. Probably where Perot got the idea to get the POW’s.

        Perot was a stand up guy. Old fashioned American. Not to mention a very determined asshole when someone got in his way. Can you imagine his level of hatred for a CIA Chief officer, Bush, that did nothing to rescue our Men?

        The NV were in sorry shape after the war. If we would have gone in I bet we could have gotten a lot of our guys. I assume they’re all dead now.

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  6. Hipster Racist
    April 24, 2016

    I think the weakness of the theory is the idea that Clinton didn’t want war with Iraq – he most certainly did. Clinton spent his entire two terms bombing Iraq constantly and enforcing no-fly zones and santions. Famously, Clinton, Madeline Albright, and some other Clinton Jew did a college speaking tour trying to sell the idea of “humanitarian intervention” like they had done with the Serbian war. They were met with protests and the tour was widely seen as a failure. This is about the time that the Project for a New American Century was started and Bush Jr. famously brought in the same neo-con Jews that his father opposed.

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    • icareviews
      April 24, 2016

      I don’t necessarily agree with everything Piper says, but I can’t rule out a possible Israeli connection. If a person wanted to pin the OKC bombing on Israel, the Pat Shannan documentary I linked gets interesting in that regard between the 1:00:50 and 1:07:23 marks. I’m not saying Riconosciuto is necessarily a credible source, but I did find his account intriguing.

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      • Hipster Racist
        April 24, 2016

        Considering that ADL is essentially an Israeli front group, I could see them wanting to pair “white supremacists” with Arab Muslim terrorists. But I would think the OKC building was targeted for a reason. It was not a particularly famous landmark so it seems odd as a target for terrorism unless there was a reason. Considering the time period I’m thinking that the DEA office there was almost certainly holding some rather interesting documents.

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      • icareviews
        April 25, 2016

        The last ten minutes of this documentary mention the likelihood that the Murrah Building was targeted because it housed documents pertaining to Mena as well as the Whitewater investigation:

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      • Hipster Racist
        April 26, 2016

        Yeah, I think that’s where I got the idea from. James Corbett is always great. He’s sort of a “non-racist libertarian” type but he’s not anti-white and is usually pretty careful about facts when it comes to “conspiracy theories.”

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      • icareviews
        April 27, 2016

        My opinion of him isn’t as high as yours. I haven’t watched a whole lot of his stuff, but some it is fairly boring. I remember watching his video about the legal case for prosecution that could be made against 9/11 perpetrators, getting about 30 or 40 minutes into it, and realizing that he wasn’t going to say jack about Israel’s relevance to the discussion. I assume he’s at least partly Jewish.

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      • Hipster Racist
        April 27, 2016

        I assume he’s at least partly Jewish

        I seriously doubt that. He is probably married to a Japanese woman. He has, in fact, been somewhat critical of the Israel lobby.

        Frankly, someone who is “partly” Jewish almost certainly has virtually zero connections to the Jewish tribe, in general, and certainly not Israel. Sure, someone who has a Jewish parent and was raised in the culture, quite possibly.

        So if he had a Jewish grandfather, unless he was raised with some Jewish tradition, I doubt very seriously it would have any impact at all. That idea may as well be “ZOG’s” idea that the Irish are secretly in cahoots with the Jews.

        Jews, Jewish culture, and Israel are a serious problem. But I doubt very seriously some X% of Ashkenazi ancestry means anything, at all.

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      • icareviews
        April 27, 2016

        Okay, I guess I’m wrong about Corbett. I’ve seen him mentioned in the same breath as Gordon Duff et al, but if he names the Dancing Israelis, as he does here, I guess there’s really not much more I can ask:

        https://www.corbettreport.com/a-brief-history-of-israeli-spying-in-the-us/

        I’d watched a few videos of his a few years ago and he seemed to be avoiding mentioning Zionists in connection with conspiracies. I guess I just didn’t explore his catalog deeply enough.

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    • indravaruna
      April 24, 2016

      The Clinton administration was loaded with Jewish Neocons, the NATO expansion was under Clinton, the israeli lobby didn’t liked H.W. Bush one bit and always prefered the monicker of “Liberal Interventionism”, thats why Perot was allowed to compete for the conservative vote in the 1992 election.

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  7. indravaruna
    April 24, 2016

    Maybe off-topic:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Encounter_(magazine)

    “Encounter was a literary magazine, founded in 1953 by poet Stephen Spender and journalist Irving Kristol. The magazine ceased publication in 1991. Published in the United Kingdom, it was a largely Anglo-American intellectual and cultural journal, originally associated with the anti-Stalinist left. The magazine received covert funding from the Central Intelligence Agency, after the CIA and MI6 discussed the founding of an “Anglo-American left-of-centre publication” intended to counter the idea of cold war neutralism. The magazine was rarely critical of American foreign policy, but beyond this editors had considerable publishing freedom.”

    Something Steve Sailer said is that the CIA and MI6 promoted “anti-Soviet Leftism” in the ’50s and ’60s, Barack Obama family connections with the CIA were about this.

    This anti-Soviet Leftism was promoted by Jewish Troskyit intellectuals and “journalists” who later became the Neocons inspired by the Likud Party in Israel.

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  8. Hipster Racist
    April 24, 2016

    According to one woman, she saw workers in the building, claiming to be working on the phone lines, rigging wires between columns, in what looked like rigging a building for demo, not a phone system.

    So, if there were bombs in the building, how would Israel have gotten access? Was this work crew a Mossad front? If so, how did they get past the US Federal government security?

    We know that the ATF workers didn’t show up that day. That’s a clear example of foreknowledge. So, if the ATF knew, and it was done by Mossad, why wouldn’t they have done something? And if Mossad was simply hired by the US to do the dirty work, wouldn’t it still have been the US in the driver’s seat?

    I think the Israeli connections can be explained by the involvement of the ADL in the Elohim City “white supremacist movement.”

    If, as Piper says, McVeigh was really interested in at least a “bomb scare” and the ADL knew about it (and they seem to have been watching McVeigh and were certainly watching Elohim City) – still, that would mean the FBI/BATF and who knows who else would have been watching them even closer. We know the leader of Elohim City was in regular contact with FBI.

    So at best you could say Israel knew about it (along with everyone else) and tried to point to various Iraqi people supposedly involved as behind it.

    Blowing up the WTC was obviously good for the Israelis, both politically and personally (as in Silverstein.) But what value did the Murrah Federal Building have as a target? It was a third rate facility out in the middle of nowhere.

    After 9/11, a large Mossad network was rolled up, famously reported on FOX News. At least one top leader of AIPAC was charged with spying for Israel during the Bush administration. The Israeli “art students” spying on the new NSA facility in Utah was covered in the national media.

    So while Israeli political influence is a serious problem, I don’t think our intel agencies are at all unaware of actual Mossad activity, in fact, loudly complain about it quite often.

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    • indravaruna
      April 24, 2016

      “So at best you could say Israel knew about it (along with everyone else) and tried to point to various Iraqi people supposedly involved as behind it.”

      Not only Iraqis but also the Iranian government according to Jayna Davis.

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  9. Truth Hertz
    April 25, 2016

    I cut my teeth on the OKC, Murrah Building bombing. The building was rigged and detonated by US government hired operatives to demonize the growing patriot/militia movement. In the process, the key files on the Clinton “White Water” case, were destroyed. They always get multiple bangs for their buck on these things.

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  10. smartwhiteguy
    April 29, 2016

    Some quick impressions. Davis looks a little…semitic.
    Also, didn’t we put Saddam Hussein in power? Likely because he was considerably more secular than the other candidates for the job. Why would he turn on us?
    As far as Bin Laden, get real.
    Anyway, guess your videos will clarify everything and I definitely want to watch all of them, but the last two are very lengthy and haven’t the time right now.

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  11. fuhrerious88
    April 30, 2016

    Reblogged this on Remember The 14 Words .

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  13. Sam J.
    May 8, 2016

    Here’s an interesting video I ran across. Earlier it was stated that McVeigh said he was a secret agent for the Army. Here’s an actual video of McVeigh at a camp where they teach explosive demolition.

    The problem is McVeigh was supposed to have been out of the military at this time. It was an accident that he caught him on tape. I believe that McVeigh is still alive.

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    • icareviews
      May 8, 2016

      There’s definitely some resemblance, and I find this filmmaker’s angle and story of harassment to be intriguing; but, at the same time, it’s difficult to believe that if black ops assets were being trained at this base, the brass would have allowed a movie scout free access to the grounds and the personnel. There’s enough other anomalous information on the official narrative that the case for a conspiracy doesn’t have to hinge on this video, whether or not it’s legitimate.

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